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Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
http://www.waves.com/plugins/emi-tg12345#tg12345-overview Waves and Abbey Road Studios bring to life the legendary TG12345, the first-ever solid-state console from EMI which epitomized the sound evolution of the late '60s and early '70s and helped shape groundbreaking recordings by the Beatles, Pink Floyd, and many others. Thanks to meticulous component modeling, the Waves/Abbey Road EMI TG12345 channel strip plugin captures every celebrated feature of the one-of-a-kind original console: the input mic preamp, down to every last detail of its harmonic distortion, hum and noise; the bass and treble EQ bands from the mic cassette; the presence EQ band from the console's group/main section; the lush-sounding spreader; and to top it all off, the console's famous compressor/limiter, with its distinctive, irresistible sound. The plugin offers routing options that cover the entire TG12345 line, from the one and only MK I desk on which it was modeled, to the final MK IV models. In addition to the console's original features, new elements have been added to accommodate modern mixing needs, including a high-pass filter on the compressor's sidechain, a mix control in the dynamics section for easy parallel compression/limiting, a drive control, and much more. Whether used for tracking, mixing or mastering, in the studio or live, on an individual channel or on a master bus, the Waves/Abbey Road EMI TG12345 will give your mixes the beautiful compression and the unforgettable crisp, bright and rich sound of a true classic.
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Eddie TX
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/09 02:07:05
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About $85 at the usual discounters -- Audio Deluxe, Plugin Discounts, Waves Universe. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/09 02:47:08
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I've been staying up late tonight playing with Waves' latest creation ... that only happens if it's something I really like. And like it I do. I'll post more thoughts in the Software forum later. For now, I'd say the TG12345 is certainly worth a demo. Here's a thorough video walkthrough, where you can get an idea of what this plugin can do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wm1sTdLViQM Cheers, Eddie
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Fleer
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/09 06:20:10
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Hi Eddie, what's the difference between NLS, Scheps 73 and this? Are they all as good? Can these be used together? Kind regards, Fleer
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Eddie TX
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/09 12:10:50
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Fleer Hi Eddie, what's the difference between NLS, Scheps 73 and this? Are they all as good? Can these be used together? Kind regards, Fleer
The new plug is a full channel strip including dynamics and EQ, while NLS just emulates the "sound" of consoles and the Scheps is an EQ with preamp modeling included. Similar vintage flavors in each of these, but they can be mixed and matched to your heart's content. Waves has several products that try to recreate the sound of old analog gear -- not only these, but the other Abbey Road plugs and the ones in the Kramer line come to mind. They all succeed to one degree or another, IMHO. I'm fixing to post more about the TG12345 in the Software forum. Cool plug. Cheers, Eddie
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Waves / Abbey Road TG12345 Channel Strip
2014/10/09 12:40:48
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For those of you who are into digital recreations of vintage gear, your latest object of desire is the newest addition to the Waves Abbey Road bundle -- a channel strip from the EMI TG12345 console which graced that studio back when they made things like Beatles and Pink Floyd records. So if you want to sound like them, you'll have to buy this. A comparison to Waves' existing REDD plugin is obvious. Well, unlike REDD, this one has a compressor / limiter section. Boy, does it ever. Some serious smackage can be had with this -- it's got a punch that will blow your ears off if you aren't careful. Fortunately, there's a wet/dry control so you can tame the wild beast. Seriously, I don't think I've heard such an aggressive compressor from Waves. Very cool! It's worth trying just for this feature alone -- the controls are a bit unconventional, so it's worth watching a tutorial or reading the manual before twisting the knobs. That'll help you get the most out of this thing. The EQ section is a little more flexible than REDD's, with a parametric midband control in addition to the bass and treble shelves. The overall inherent tonal balance isn't quite the same, which is understandable as the TG12345 is a solid-state model, whereas the REDD used tubes. I had to tweak REDD's high shelf to match the sound of the relatively modern-sounding TG123456789- whoops, got carried away there. Anyway, both EQs sound pretty good, but that's not the primary strength of these plugs. The built-in modeled sound of these strips is the main attraction, and both do an excellent job of imparting a particular flavor onto tracks. Which one sounds "better" will be dependent on source and taste, but so far I've been preferring the sound of the TG12345 on most things. It seems to have a fuller, thicker, and weightier character that I really dig. Both strips include a Drive control, but they're very different. REDD's version does the clipping growl, while the TG12345 can go much further, from wild to psychedelic freakout within a few degrees of the knob's rotation. Other than that, these two plugins are pretty similar. Very colorful, very good sounding, very fun, very CPU-intensive, and nice to look at. But the TG12345 is the winner in my book. It's worth trying out just for the compressor, which is something different from most run-of-the-mill comps I've heard. As with all the plugins in Waves' Abbey Road line, if you dig "that vintage sound," you'll definitely enjoy Waves' newest baby. Have fun, plugaholics! Cheers, Eddie
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Fleer
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/09 21:47:55
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Eddie TX
Fleer Hi Eddie, what's the difference between NLS, Scheps 73 and this? Are they all as good? Can these be used together? Kind regards, Fleer
The new plug is a full channel strip including dynamics and EQ, while NLS just emulates the "sound" of consoles and the Scheps is an EQ with preamp modeling included.
Cheers, Eddie. Would NLS together with Scheps be a good combination? Would such combination of NLS with Scheps represent what you call "a full channel strip" or is something still lacking (such as "dynamics")? Thanks for helping out.
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/09 22:46:27
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Most of the popular channel strip plugins try to reproduce a single channel's worth of circuitry from a console -- typically this includes preamps, some sort of EQ, and dynamics, which can be compression, limiting, gating, expanding, or any combination thereof. The ubiquitous SSL channel plugins (Waves' version is an example) are emulations of what's used in the big studios -- pros like the familiar control layout and response, and hobbyists like to think they're just like the big boys. HOWEVER, there are no rules, so feel free to use whatever sounds good to you. Mixing and matching can yield good results -- NLS with Scheps certainly might be a great combination, even though I haven't tried it. But the NLS Nevo mode is modeled on a Neve console, and the Scheps is also a Neve derivative, so it sounds like a perfect fit to me! This omits any sort of dynamics processing like compression, but there's no limit to the number of plugins that can handle that. Doesn't have to be a Neve compressor or anything. Go crazy and break all the rules, bud. And, have fun! Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/09 22:58:18
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Thanks a million, Eddie, I'm starting to get a grip. A bold new world !
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/11 14:01:03
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I picked this up yesterday and used it on a drum mix. Wicked good on kick/snare/OH. I loved the way it brought out the thump in the kick. I am really looking forward to putting this plug through its paces on other source material.
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/11 21:43:45
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Eddie, I read the following about NLS: "They are saturation plugins really, nothing new. They add "glue" to your mix. In other words really slight compression and harmonics that all tracks can have in common." Would this mean that NLS indeed functions as a kind of compressor?
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Eddie TX
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/11 23:54:14
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Fleer Eddie, I read the following about NLS: "They are saturation plugins really, nothing new. They add "glue" to your mix. In other words really slight compression and harmonics that all tracks can have in common." Would this mean that NLS indeed functions as a kind of compressor?
Only to a very limited degree ... to achieve what's normally called compression, you'd need a separate plugin. If you're unfamiliar with compressors in general, I suggest taking advantage of the wealth of info available from sites or videos that explain the basics. To get a feel for how they affect the sound, the Sonitus compressor in Sonar is great to experiment with, having straightforward controls and a neat little graph showing what's happening. Good luck and have fun ... and as always, feel free to ask questions of the friendly folks here. Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/12 09:27:52
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Thanks, Eddie, for this prompt and clear response. I'll also start experimenting with Klanghelm DC1A and the Plug&Mix bundle I bought. Meanwhile, I have to say I love this learning curve, because of guys like you helping me out. Waited too many years before starting this journey, but at 52 now I'm loving every part of it. As for the EMI TG12345, I guess I'd better wait for a sale price on the Abbey Road bundle that would include this plug-in, together with J37, REDD, RS56 and The King’s Microphones, as I read in the UAD-forum that you consider NLS, Scheps 73 and the Abbey Road Bundle to be good Waves plug-ins. Got NLS and Scheps already thanks to your recommendation. Cheers, Fleer
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/12 14:17:01
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I do like those Waves plugs, particularly the Abbey Road collection. But tastes differ, so be sure to demo the plugins that interest you before buying, to make sure they help you achieve the sound you're after. When buying Waves, the best deals are usually when they offer a voucher in combination with sale prices, as they just did with those plugs you bought. I bought the Abbey Road single plugins this way instead of the bundle and saved a ton of money. But keep your eyes open for deals, which can come anytime -- Black Friday is a great time to shop! Cheers, Eddie
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Re: Waves New EMI TG12345 Channel Strip $99 Intro Price
2014/10/12 16:08:00
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Will do. Thanks for the heads up! Fleer
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