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Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice

Everyone - I started analog recording back in the 80s. The 90s I converted to digital stand alone recorders. Nine months ago, I converted to Sonar - learned a ton since then. So this is a stupid question from a rookie using Sonar.
I have Sonar Platinum and the Waves Platinum bundle.
(Not at my PC right now)
So, do you update the Waves bundle and the Addictive Drums 2 like you do with SPLAT?
I bought the lifetime SPLAT so I got that updating down.
The Waves website mentions upgrades - would that be the updates? Just wondering - it looks like you have to pay for upgrades there - if it was like SPLAT with one price for lifetime updates that would be cool. (With Waves does upgrade mean the same as update)?
Same question for Addictive Drums 2 - have not attempted anything with AD2 yet. Are there updates for AD2?

Most of the 9 months since getting SPLAT has been just me doing production and mixing. My questions must seem like a d'uh you idiot questions! Ha!
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 12:37:28 (permalink)
Waves upgrades are to "higher bundles"...i.e...from Platinum to 
Diamond, Horizon, or Mercury.

Waves updates are done via WUP.  When you purchase you get 
1 year of WUP which means that, if the bundle gets "upgraded",
which, in the case of bundles means a new version or an added
plugin...you get them for free for that 1 year.  After that you have
to buy "Waves Update Protection", which is "insurance" that you 
continue to receive any updates or add ons to the bundle

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 12:40:37 (permalink)
Waves rarely updates their pluins. They may upgrade their packages with new plugins and you would only get those if your WUP (Waves Update Plan) is in force. You got a year of WUP when you bought Platinum.
 
Caveat: Just because Waves introduces an new plugin, dos not mean you get it. It must be a new plug that is part of your Platinum package. 
 
Further caveat: The Abbey Road or SSL bundles never add a new plug for free, but are offered at a discount to those that own the package.
 
WUP is optional.
 
AD2 has an online installer that you run independently. When you run it it will update anything you own. AD2 alos has add on packs (kist) and MIDI packs (grooves etc) for purchase. Once you own those they too woiuld be upodated in the online installer *free of charge).
 
Hope this helps.

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 12:41:03 (permalink)
Aha..... Lars beat me to it.
 

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 13:26:57 (permalink)
Thanks everyone. Appreciate the help.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 13:28:46 (permalink)
Sam,  you also need Waves Central to install 
and get the updates....which I'm sure you're 
aware of...

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 13:33:38 (permalink)
cclarry
Sam,  you also need Waves Central to install 
and get the updates....which I'm sure you're 
aware of...


Yep - just was a little confused on the updates vs. upgrades.

But got it now.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 13:54:48 (permalink)
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cclarry
Sam,  you also need Waves Central to install 
and get the updates....which I'm sure you're 
aware of...


Yep - just was a little confused on the updates vs. upgrades.

But got it now.


It is indeed one of the more "obtuse" contructs for software...that's for sure...

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/18 17:06:29 (permalink)
bapu
Waves rarely updates their pluins. They may upgrade their packages with new plugins and you would only get those if your WUP (Waves Update Plan) is in force. You got a year of WUP when you bought Platinum.
 
Caveat: Just because Waves introduces an new plugin, dos not mean you get it. It must be a new plug that is part of your Platinum package. 
 
Further caveat: The Abbey Road or SSL bundles never add a new plug for free, but are offered at a discount to those that own the package.
 
WUP is optional.
 
AD2 has an online installer that you run independently. When you run it it will update anything you own. AD2 alos has add on packs (kist) and MIDI packs (grooves etc) for purchase. Once you own those they too woiuld be upodated in the online installer *free of charge).
 
Hope this helps.

Totally helped. On the AD2 - downloaded and installed that 9 months ago. I think the company is XLN, right? Do they have updates like SPLAT does? Or is AD2 software that does not require updates....wait, does that even exist? Ha! Ha!
Just curious, because I have not even looked into buying more drums/beats/midi from XLN for AD2. So far - no need to.
The lifetime updates for SPLAT is pretty cool though.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/19 07:32:53 (permalink)
Yes XLN has updates and, if they are available (very rarely)
then the OLI will let you know they are available and you
can install them directly from there....

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/22 10:53:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/11/22 11:08:29
And don't worry about being a novice and asking "stupid" questions. After you have been around for a while you will be able to ask informed stupid questions.

It's Bass, not Bass.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/22 10:53:12 (permalink)
Like Me.

It's Bass, not Bass.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/22 11:06:53 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/11/22 11:08:47
BassDaddy
And don't worry about being a novice and asking "stupid" questions. After you have been around for a while you will be able to ask informed stupid questions.

This users on here have been extremely helpful. Some of the technical computer stuff I get lost on but every time I ask a question the responses are pretty good.
Not used to the politeness on the internet. Ha!
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/22 15:48:00 (permalink)
It is for the most part a polite, well behaved, highly medicated group here.

It's Bass, not Bass.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/22 18:03:04 (permalink)
Pass the dutchie

"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/22 23:28:43 (permalink)
Dutchie doobie.

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/22 23:39:19 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/11/23 03:39:40
Brotha!

"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/23 03:45:56 (permalink)
Never would have expected a Hulk Hogan comment from you.

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/23 20:37:29 (permalink)
What can I say, he won in court.

"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/28 10:00:02 (permalink)
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Never would have expected a Hulk Hogan comment from you.

That is ironic! The only impersonation I can nail perfectly is Hulk Hogan.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/28 10:00:21 (permalink)
I should record it so you guys can get a laugh out of it.
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/28 22:37:23 (permalink)
Sam! Sam! Sam!

"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2016/11/30 10:07:54 (permalink)
Let's hear it BROTHER!!

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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2017/03/16 10:08:53 (permalink)
*SAM4246*
Your statement 'Stupid question' is me to a T.

You think your questions were stupid...I'm a fellow newbie, much like yourself. I too just recently grabbed Platinum as well as Waves Horizon and The Abbey Road Collection. Heck, I thought by simply buying all this great gear, it would 'master' itself. Ah, but alas, no gold records yet.
Anyway, as a newbie, (we're always trying our best to soak everything in that we read...that is, until we come up to 'brick wall speak'.
Brick Wall Speak (or can we call it BWS) can be a word, term, acronym or phrase dealing with any DAW or studio related 'thing' that you're absolutely certain everyone else who reads the post already knows the meaning, yet you haven't the slightest clue.
You can ignore it, and never hope to learn, or just come out and ask, and fear you'll appear the fool.
That said, i appreciate the others saying 'there's no stupid questions' because if you think yours' were stupid questions then, how's this;
What the heck is SPLAT?
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Re: Waves Platinum bundle and Addictive Drums 2 stupid question from a novice 2017/03/17 14:05:51 (permalink)
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What the heck is SPLAT?



s onar plat inum

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