cclarry
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Waves Plugin Updates Available
from 10.0.0.16 to 10.0.51.5
Run Waves Central to update
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/20 00:17:01
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/20 02:08:00
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2018/07/27 02:28:59
It is not hard. I think many go about it the wrong way. Here is the approach that I use. I got this from Waves themselves in fact.
Run Waves Central. (Note if it seems like a long time for this to even appear just be patient and wait it out.)
Click on Easy Install and Activate
Enter your log in details
Now WAIT!! Look right up top left or bottom right. It is checking for updates. This is not obvious. People start doing stuff while Central is checking for updates. Don't. Just wait.
If there are updates available the words Updates Available will appear in blue right at the very top.
Click on that. (Updates Available)
A window will appear indicating what is going to update.
Click on OK. Be patient. This can take some time depending what is being updated.
It will let you know that all the updates have been successful. This has worked every time for me. It is faultless in fact.
Installing new plugins is just as easy.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/20 02:31:24
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2018/07/21 20:24:33
I agree with Jeff, this is exactly what I do. Works every time.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/20 13:16:21
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☄ Helpfulby ZincTrumpet 2018/07/21 09:12:25
I saw another note complaining about Waves Central updating V9 only licensed plugins to their V10 version and thought I'd mention what happened with me when I applied this set of V10 updates to my mixed V9 & V10 setup.
Waves Central said a handful of plugins had updates, including Codex which I only have a V9 license for and haven't upgraded. It sure looked like it was going to update it and the few plugins I did have V10 licenses on. I went ahead and let it do the full update (you can't pick what to update with it) even though I was worried. When it was done my Codex was still V9, even though it was listed as having an update from one version of 10 to a slightly later 10.
So basically everything worked just like it should have and I didn't lose my V9 plugin even though it claimed it was updating it. That may have been because I had ran the Waves Organizer app that purged all the unlicensed V10's from my system. If I had both V9 and V10 installed (something Waves really doesn't want you do to) perhaps it would have been different?
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/21 01:57:11
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Went smoothly here and the few waves plugins that were updated showed themselves as such when placed into a project and appropriately tickled. I did have to say yes to the Win10 box that asks for confirmation to allow the installer to make changes on my computer. First attempt I walked away from the desk before that came up and the process didn’t proceed to completion. That box times out and Waves just hangs. Just needed to restart.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/22 16:33:31
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bwbalint
First attempt I walked away from the desk before that came up and the process didn’t proceed to completion. That box times out and Waves just hangs. Just needed to restart.
ANd they know about this and still haven't changed it. Which means no install without staying there until it asks. PITA if you ask me. : )
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/22 17:17:31
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My Growl Face was because Larry beat me to the posting about the Waves Update ! Larry always beats me to postings 
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/07/27 02:29:37
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RSMCGUITAR
I agree with Jeff, this is exactly what I do. Works every time.
Ditto. I follow this course also and have never had a problem
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/03 03:22:29
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Is there a way to check what may be new in v10 vs v9 with certain plugins? For example, it appears LoAir's v10 upgrade gives M+S processing. Curious to know what other plugins have to offer, but there's got to be a better way than just looking at images on Waves.com. If the change is a worthy upgrade, I wouldn't mind spending a little ca$h on WUP.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/03 11:12:09
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☄ Helpfulby 2:43AM 2018/08/03 11:14:20
Wave's Release Notes https://www.waves.com/downloads/release-notes it is about the most info you can get on what has changed. I'm not sure you'll be able to really answer if an upgrade is worth getting from them though. The level of detail is a bit low.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/03 11:14:36
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msorrels
Wave's Release Notes
https://www.waves.com/downloads/release-notes
it is about the most info you can get on what has changed. I'm not sure you'll be able to really answer if an upgrade is worth getting from them though. The level of detail is a bit low.
Thank you! Simple enough, but so easily overlooked! And I agree on the limited information. I was hoping to see "Element 2.0: improved CPU usage efficiency" or something similar, but did not. I hope that updates is coming soon. Element, for example, is a nice, relatively decent sounding synth for basic stuff, but it is a CPU hog!
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/03 12:01:29
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Both of Wave's synths could use some performance work but that kind of development is very expensive (time & money) and rarely pays off in increased sales. So it never gets the focus. If you are still under WUP I'd recommend sending them a note perhaps with specific Element patches that are causing the most CPU usage issues for you. I'd bet having customers say there is a specific performance problem is the best chance performance work will ever get done.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/08 13:43:11
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msorrels
I'd bet having customers say there is a specific performance problem is the best chance performance work will ever get done.
You are correct there!
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 01:18:12
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Does everyone else have 3 waves shells installed? I have 3 for vst3 and 3 for vst2.
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Grem
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 11:32:20
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☄ Helpfulby clintmartin 2018/08/10 11:34:26
Yes I do Clint. That's some of the BS that I find Waves does with WC. From my understanding, it's required for all the plugins to run. Something about libraries for different /older plugs. One for the real old, one for the old, and one for new.
I can be wrong about this, I'm just making guesses based on things I have read.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 13:04:40
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It's not just the versions of the plugins you have. The number of shells you have also depend on how many Waves plugins you have as well. For example I have two shells for V10 and one shell for V9.92 and one shell for V9.7. I believe this is because there is a limit to how many plugins a single VST shell can support. So Waves actually makes multiple shells on your computer depending on how many plugins you have. So the number of shells you have can vary greatly.
In my case my 9.7 shells contain only StudioRack (3 plugins total due to stereo/mono versions)
My 9.92 shell contains all my v9 plugins (85 plugins total)
My first 10.0 shell contains 276 plugins, my second 10.0 shell contains only 3 plugins (the Abbey Road Chambers which I just added).
I assume if I were to add enough V10 plugins I'd get a third V10 shell.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 15:45:20
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Matt that sounds like a better explanation than what I said! : )
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 16:34:33
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Nice explanation. THank you.
How do you figure out what plugins are in what shell?
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 16:53:13
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I use a shell2vst plugin tool that can make single vst's out of shells so you can use in apps that don't support vst shells. When it runs and dumps the shell it reports what's in it. I always use it after I update Waves plugins so I can use them anywhere I want.
Pretty sure I got it off a link on KvR but it's been years.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 18:03:58
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msorrels
When it runs and dumps the shell it reports what's in it.
Does it still have the waves save and load feature?
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 18:44:00
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Grem
Does it still have the waves save and load feature?
If you mean the WaveSystem Toolbar at the top that lets you load and save settings/undo/redo and open the PDF manual, yes it's still there. That's just part of the plugins, it is not some magical framework.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 20:57:01
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 21:18:34
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Grem
Does it still have the waves save and load feature?
If you mean the WaveSystem Toolbar at the top that lets you load and save settings/undo/redo and open the PDF manual, yes it's still there. That's just part of the plugins, it is not some magical framework.
Great! So then the only reason for these 'Shells' are the license?
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 21:43:39
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Waves uses the shells as a way of managing their collection of plugins. It is just a software organization thing. That's why they have separate shells for each version of their plugins. Kind of a filing cabinet approach. The VST system supports this shell feature and they chose to use it (even though some DAWs don't support it). They actually aren't the only plugin developers using VST shells to bundle their plugins up. For example Black Rooster Audio uses VST shells for their plugin system.
As for the multiple shells it appears it was just a choice they made to better support how they develop/install/update their software. They could have done it other ways, it was a choice. You can re-wrap VST shell plugins if you want to or bridge them or whatever, but there may be issues. VST is a pretty loose standard.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/10 22:53:16
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I bought a few Waves plugins this year on extreme sales. They are great, and no regrets!
But I think I am done with Waves as far as future purchases. They really need to simplify their version control and installer procedures before I would consider any additions.
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Grem
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/12 11:01:59
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I agree abacab. The installation needs improving. The way it is I cannot install just vst3 if I want. Or just vst2 if that's all I want. Or where I want them.
They finally relented and added an option for letting us install the samples where we like.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/14 08:21:40
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☄ Helpfulby msorrels 2018/08/14 12:02:13
>The installation needs improving. Agreed. While you can't pick what you are installing (32 bit, 64 bit, VST3) having Cakewalk only use the VST3s is a no brainer. Just don't include have the Waves shell folder, C:\Program Files (x86)\Waves, in your scan path. Since a copy of the Waves Shell VST3 dll is also installed in the default VST3 dll folder i.e. "C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3" or its Program Files (x86) counterpart the Waves VST3s will get picked up with your other VST3s when scanned.
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/08/14 11:03:06
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TheSteven
>The installation needs improving.
Agreed.
While you can't pick what you are installing (32 bit, 64 bit, VST3) is installed having Cakewalk only use the VST3s is a no brainer.
I think this may part of the reason why so many have problems with Waves plugins. Something about the way Cakewalk scans plugins triggers something in some peoples systems that conflicts with Waves system. I am only guess here. I don't know a damn thing about programming! : )
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Re: Waves Plugin Updates Available
2018/09/23 23:54:20
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I have a bunch of version 10.0.0 plugins and one 9.2.0 plugin (TrueVerb). Only the TrueVerb is showing in CbB (even after a few scans). Everything in Waves Central is also up to date.
How do I get it to see the rest?
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