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2012/12/12 10:49:20 (permalink)

Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer?

Just curious if anyone else is seeing these msg's in Win7 64bit Event Viewer?

I got this machine around March 2012 and I never saw this Event Viewer Error until I installed my first Waves Plugin on 8/10/12. Now I have hundreds of them and wondering if it may have somethings to do with the issues I have been having with Waves.

It is in the Error Section and it is an Event 35 SidebySide:

Activation context generation failed for "C:\Program Files (x86)\Waves\Applications\wlc.exe".Error in manifest or policy file "C:\Program Files (x86)\Waves\Applications\WavesQtLibs_4.7.3_Win32_Release\WavesQtLibs_4.7.3_Win32_Release.MANIFEST" on line 8. Component identity found in manifest does not match the identity of the component requested. Reference is WavesQtLibs_4.7.3_Win32_Release,processorArchitecture="AMD64",type="win32",version="1.0.0.0". Definition is WavesQtLibs_4.7.3_Win32_Release,processorArchitecture="x86",type="win32",version="1.0.0.0". Please use sxstrace.exe for detailed diagnosis.

I am just guessing but it appears that it is due to the fact that I am running a 64bit OS and 64bit Sonar but Waves does not have a 64bit component that this is looking for????

I really am trying desperately to get my Waves issues fixed so I can use what I have purchased. Not even sure if this error is a problem but thought I would see if anyone else see's this error.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/12 11:26:44 (permalink)
I haven't noticed this error, but I remember having an issue where VST Scan would hang on the 32-bit version of the Waves .dll file.  I didn't need the 32-bit versions of Waves plugins, so I simply moved that .dll file from the 32-bit folder (C:\Program Files (x86)\vstplugins) into a temp folder (not one in the scan list) and the problem went away. 
 
Since your issue seems to involve the 32-bit versions, you might want to try something similar, assuming you won't be using them.  I hope this helps!
 
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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/12 11:37:54 (permalink)
Hi Eddie TX,

Thanks for the reply. I don't have any of the 32bit folders in my scan paths so not sure why it would look at those?

I do know that Waves puts both 32bit .dll and 64 bit .dll individual plugs in a bundle file that I wouldn't know, or want to, how to get at.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/12 12:07:21 (permalink)
I won't attempt to explain Waves' installation architecture, but if you've got nothing to lose (no Waves plugins are working, right?), you could try clearing out any 32-bit Waves files from all folders and rescanning.  You can always re-install from scratch if that doesn't work ... you'll want to set a system restore point before performing major surgery, of course.  Good luck ...
 
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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/12 21:37:35 (permalink)
Have you sent the message to Waves Support?

Just for grins, try changing the "AMD64" in the manifest file to "x86" and see if that makes the installer happy. Back up the file first just to be safe.


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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/12 21:38:05 (permalink)
Have you sent the message to Waves Support?

Just for grins, try changing the "AMD64" in the manifest file to "x86" and see if that makes the installer happy. Back up the file first just to be safe.


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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/12 21:39:15 (permalink)
You gotta love this forum software.


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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/12 22:19:28 (permalink)
The funny part is that I read both posts #5 and #6 and didn't even realize they were the same at first... (it's rough getting old).

Honestly, I don't even know what the manifest file is.

I really wonder If I am installing this stuff to the right places and ask the other tech that but he swore that there are only Two screens that ask where you want to put things, the 32bit vst and the 64bit vst.

I get three screens and the first one wants to know where I want to install Waves Complete V9r7. It defaults to C:\Program Files (x86)\Waves and that is what I accept. I'm wondering if I should be changing that to C:\Program Files\Waves?

I did call support again and spoke to a different guy because Dave Burman was not there. (Hell, I didn't realize they were in Israel, I thought they were in Knoxville TN.) I will be able to give him a call around 7am EST in the morning.

I'm running out of altitude and ideas if he can't help. Looks like I may be trying to sell some licenses cheap after these sales are over. Then again, maybe the new X2 update will fix things.

Thanks for the reply bit.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/13 13:09:34 (permalink)
Manifest files are XML text files that can be used to specify links to external files, either as part of a software installation or to modify the software's behavior or appearance at runtime. They probably have other uses, but my experience is limited to those scenarios. 

In your case, it's strictly a Waves issue, unrelated to SONAR. Although it could be related to your AMD processor. Either way, you will have to rely on Waves to tell you how to fix it.



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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/13 13:56:18 (permalink)
Thanks for the Education on the Manifest files!

The interesting thing is, The machine has an Intel I7 processor an Nvidia GTX 560M display adapter so still can't figure out the AMD thing...  

I did talk with Waves this morning and they are going to try and arrange for Q&A (east coast) to do a remote on the machine.

I did get the machine at the desk to work by removing everything Waves, files and registry, and loading the last version (9.1) of the plugs. So far no crashes.  

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/13 21:16:07 (permalink)
Well perhaps that's the problem, then: somehow the Waves installer thinks you have an AMD processor.


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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/13 21:28:59 (permalink)
At this point I should probably keep my mouth shut but I never could resist an open door.

I think the real problem is that, it is Waves. 

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/14 11:56:05 (permalink)
I also have the same Waves messages in my Applications Event log, so you aren't the only one.  I am getting them on initialization of the VST (I have the Gold package), because I am working in projects that don't currently have any Waves plugins in them.  I'm surprised that more people haven't noticed this, but then I don't suppose a lot of people check their Event logs, so they probably don't know they have them.  Incidentally, I am running a quad-core Intel platform on a Gigabyte motherboard, so nothing AMD-related about my system.  Odd.  I will have to look at the manifest file and see if there's anything in there that might give a clue as to why this is happening.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/14 11:59:18 (permalink)
Thanks leapinlizard!

Really appreciate you taking the time to have a look see. At least I know it is not just me that receives this msg.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/14 16:26:07 (permalink)
I think Bit nailed it ... the manifest file has a line that reads 'processorArchitecture="x86"', and I suspect some component of Waves is set to expect 'processorArchitecture="AMD64"' instead, thus producing the error.  I suspect that when they went to 64-bit they forgot to change both the manifest and the software component to 'processorArchitecture="x64"'.  Programmers tend to forget little things like that, but things manage to work in spite of the oversight.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/14 16:55:19 (permalink)
Rick, I have the same message but Waves seems to be running okay. I checked Event Viewer because my issue seems to be with Amplitube 3 lately but that's for another thread.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2012/12/14 17:22:39 (permalink)
@ leapinlizard,

Bit is a super knowledgeable guy and always takes time to help out. I'm thankful for his presence and kindness on the forum.

Thanks for taking the time to check this out and for having the knowledge to understand what is going on.

@ MrMook

Thanks for confirming that you are seeing this also and it is not causing you problems with Waves. That gives me another data point and leads me to believe that is probably not the root of my problems.

Sorry to hear you're having issues with Amplitude 3 and hope it gets worked out soon for you.

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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2013/08/31 23:52:29 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby FreeFlyBertl 2013/11/12 14:10:11
I know it's a bit of a necro-post, but I've stumbled across this same error in my Event Viewer while trying to make my Win8 computer rock-steady, and this was the first thread that came up.
 
Fun fact: AMD64 is a nickname, just like x86 is.
 
x86 means that the processor instruction set and architechture is compatible with the 86-series processor instruction set that came out ages ago -- the 386, 486, etc. "x86" processors have added quite a few extensions since then (SSE, MMX, etc.) and aren't truly 86-series compatible anymore, but the name stuck as essentially meaning a 32-bit processor.
 
If you recall, there was a time when AMD was ahead of the game in the home processor world. They were the first to bring 64-bit compatible processors to the consumer market in the early 2000s. Windows programmers put the appropriate drivers/etc. in a folder named "AMD64", and the rest is history. In many sections of programmer-speak (especially when drivers are concerned), "AMD64" simply means "64-bit".
 
As far as the actual issue is concerned, it seems that this error is caused by SxS (Side by Side), whose job appears to be to select a 64-bit DLL when available and fall back to a 32-bit one when necessary. It looks to me as though Waves may have planned a 64-bit version of the License Center and never ended up writing one. The "error" should probably be sitting in the "information" or "warning" category, because it's really not that critical (at least for this application!).
 
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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2013/09/01 15:12:36 (permalink)
Thanks for the education, Salem. And signing up for the forum just to do so!


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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2013/11/12 14:38:15 (permalink)
Salem Beats
I know it's a bit of a necro-post, but I've stumbled across this same error in my Event Viewer while trying to make my Win8 computer rock-steady, and this was the first thread that came up.
 
Fun fact: AMD64 is a nickname, just like x86 is.
 
x86 means that the processor instruction set and architechture is compatible with the 86-series processor instruction set that came out ages ago -- the 386, 486, etc. "x86" processors have added quite a few extensions since then (SSE, MMX, etc.) and aren't truly 86-series compatible anymore, but the name stuck as essentially meaning a 32-bit processor.
 
If you recall, there was a time when AMD was ahead of the game in the home processor world. They were the first to bring 64-bit compatible processors to the consumer market in the early 2000s. Windows programmers put the appropriate drivers/etc. in a folder named "AMD64", and the rest is history. In many sections of programmer-speak (especially when drivers are concerned), "AMD64" simply means "64-bit".
 
As far as the actual issue is concerned, it seems that this error is caused by SxS (Side by Side), whose job appears to be to select a 64-bit DLL when available and fall back to a 32-bit one when necessary. It looks to me as though Waves may have planned a 64-bit version of the License Center and never ended up writing one. The "error" should probably be sitting in the "information" or "warning" category, because it's really not that critical (at least for this application!).
 
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Re:Waves Plugs cause error msgs in Event Viewer? 2014/03/10 09:41:42 (permalink)
ON my system, the Event Viewer was referencing Waves WLC application, which is a licensing application of theirs.
 
I ran WLC, logged in, and sent my Renaissance Bass license to My Sound Cloud, or whatever it was called.  I will see if that clears up the daily creation of these errors showing up in my Event Viewer.
 
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