Waves Street Ambassadors?

On kvr they have another word for "street ambassadors": "sockpuppets". bapu was talking about enlisting at one time but he either had moral qualms or is too embarrassed to admit he went through with it.

cryophonik


They should make me an honorary Street Ambassador for all the people I've suckered convinced to buy their plugins.  So should FabFilter, for that matter.   

+1


I feel like I work for them...

Well...we're I to be a "sock puppet " for any company I can guarantee that I'd be the limpest sock in the drawer.  I believe I might've scored a "triple" entendre there!!!

Reading KVR has made me think about this a lot. If you spend any time there, you know that the board is dominated by a small number of very opinionated but generally knowledgeable posters whose commonality is a fascination (obsession?) with plugins. Less-experienced users often rely on those writers' opinions to make buying decisions. I have seen products both boosted beyond their deserved status and killed dead by those posters.

But after awhile you start to ask yourself whether those opinions are really objective. There are certain developers who hang out on kvr that the core posters really like, and to them those devs cannot do any wrong. So are their products really being objectively evaluated, or is there a bias toward likable developers? Is some of it even actual collusion? 

There have been incidents of blatant sock-puppetry, but I think an inspired marketer could devise a marketing campaign that could manipulate that group without appearing to be puppetry. After all, when you're being manipulated by a true master of the craft, you won't KNOW you're being manipulated at all. When you describe someone as being "manipulative", you're usually describing a failed manipulator whose methods were not clever enough to escape detection.

I would suggest that a) we aren't always aware of the extent to which our opinions are being shaped by online opinions, and b) that at least some of the time those opinions are being influenced surreptitiously and deliberately.

BTW, I don't think Cakewalk engages in such underhanded tactics. Either that or they're very, very good at it, which I doubt. A company that comes up with "DAW 2.0" - only to have it repeatedly ridiculed - is, I think, a company we can trust.

Or did Cakewalk pay me to say that?

bitflipper


On kvr they have another word for "street ambassadors": "sockpuppets". bapu was talking about enlisting at one time but he either had moral qualms or is too embarrassed to admit he went through with it.

Moral qualms.

Jonbouy

backwoods


Remember a little while back Waves brand Plugins were accepting applications for "Waves Street Ambassadors"? These people would go around the forums spreading the good word about Waves Brand VSTs apparently.

You shouldn't be concerning yourself with this at all.
 
They are probably looking for people that can communicate well via the written word.
 

Will sed Buoy. I was the other day forum posts when sparkling the monkeys.


Werd!

Well...we're I to be a "sock puppet " for any company I can guarantee that I'd be the limpest sock in the drawer. I believe I might've scored a "triple" entendre there!!!
Well done.
Speaking of Waves...I've got a "platinum bundle" in my pants...

Obi- I mentioned you in a positive way. I was hoping Waves would have the courtesy to present themselves as honestly as you IK guys do. 

p.s. I upgraded my CSR to TRacks Grand and love it :) 

I think he meant "clandestinely".  Don't know how you could physically work for anyone "subliminally". Just being nit-picky;-)

I think he meant "clandestinely".  Don't know how you could physically work for anyone "subliminally". Just being nit-picky;-)

I'm pretty nit-picky about words, too, but I think "subliminally" might actually work in this context. If I make a statement that's meant to fly under the radar of consciousness and subtly plant an idea without actually stating it, that could be called subliminal, I think.


For example... suppose I was to write "I HATE WAVES" in bold red Freddie-font. Well, I've never done that and never will. ;)

Very much so subliminally because they could very well be people you have posted with here or on KVR or on GS or a number of others. 1 comment about how X sucks for A, B and C reasons while Y is the best for D, E and F reasons. Its far more the norm than not and has been changing the last 4-5 years too. I'm not going to air any competitors dirty laundry for many reasons, but primarily not to appear salty towards the situation. We just prefer to not work like that.

I hate social media manipulation because it's insidious; you often cannot discern the difference between a sock puppet and a genuine fanboy. But it's fun trying.

Consider this recent post on KVR:

Received an e-mail about this crazy promotion Crysonic is having until friday. Almost didn't believe it but it turns out it is real. 98% discount on their plugin bundle. HURRY. Really a no-brainer!
http://www.crysonic.com/plugins.html

What do you think? Sock puppet or somebody just trying to get the word out?

HINT: it helps to know some history about the particular company being touted. 

done few videos on waves plugins ...lol ....even people thought i was one of them ....

lol 

but i work for IK !! lol (joking here of course) ....

Is tehre an IK team Obi ?  lol

I'm guessing most of us on this board will not be receiving invitations.

 Oh my, the specter of they walk among us. I'm glad it's not just me thinking this...

 I do commend IK and Obi for their open and honest way