jerrydf
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Waves-hell scan
Hi all, I've just updated the Waves Central, downloaded latest Waveshell. Now when I scan I have the Waveshell recognised in the scan but the plugins are missing when I load a project. I have checked and double checked the paths for waveshell-vst3 9.91_x64.dll. I have paths of C:\ProgramFiles(x86)\Waves\Waveshells V9, also C:\ProgramFiles\VSTPlugins. Can someone tell me what obvious detail I've missed on this? Cheers Jerry
post edited by jerrydf - 2017/05/12 21:17:58
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/12 21:27:21
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I only install the VST3 64bit versions so my path in Sonar is C:\ProgramFiles\Commonfiles\VST3 and the VST3 waveshell is in this directory. For VST2 plugins the wavesshell should be in C:\ProgramFiles\Cakewalk\vstplugins and this path in Sonar. This is how I have mine setup.
Two paths in Sonar
C:\ProgramFiles\Commonfiles\VST3
C:\ProgramFiles\Cakewalk\vstplugins
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jerrydf
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/12 22:03:15
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Thanks Bob. The full range of what's installed is -
Waveshell-VST3 9.91.vst3 in C:\ProgramFiles (x86)\Common Files\VST3
Waveshell-VST3 9.91.vst3 in C:\ProgramFiles (x86)\Waves\WaveShells V9
Waveshell-VST3 9.91_x64.vst3 in C:\ProgramFiles (x86)\Waves\WaveShells V9
Waveshell-VST3 9.91_x64.vst3 in C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3
Waveshell-VST3 9.91_x64.dll in C:\ProgramFiles (x86)\Waves\WaveShells V9
Waveshell-VST3 9.91_x64.dll in C:\ProgramFiles\VstPlugins
Waveshell-VST3 9.91.dll in C:\ProgramFiles (x86)\VstPlugins
Waveshell-VST3 9.91.dll in C:\ProgramFiles (x86)\Waves\WaveShells V9
and all those directories are in the scan path.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/12 22:18:21
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2017/05/12 23:48:22
This is something I've wondered about for a while. Every software developer seems to have a different idea of where their plugins should go. This has got me confused more than once. I which there was a standard location for plugins to go and all developers installed then there. That would end a lot of headaches for me.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/12 23:01:25
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Are you using a dongle?
If you are and it is not plugged in when you run the VST scan your plugins will come up missing.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/12 23:57:49
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This is something I've wondered about for a while. Every software developer seems to have a different idea of where their plugins should go. This has got me confused more than once. I which there was a standard location for plugins to go and all developers installed then there. That would end a lot of headaches for me.
Not me...I keep them off of my C Drive, and that is where they typically want to install... I have them on a separate drive, that way, C doesn't get full too fast (my C is only 120 GB), and many don't have to be reinstalled if there is a problem with C.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 00:11:05
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jerrydf
Hi all,
I've just updated the Waves Central, downloaded latest Waveshell. Now when I scan I have the Waveshell recognised in the scan but the plugins are missing when I load a project. I have checked and double checked the paths for waveshell-vst3 9.91_x64.dll.
I have paths of C:\ProgramFiles(x86)\Waves\Waveshells V9, also C:\ProgramFiles\VSTPlugins.
Can someone tell me what obvious detail I've missed on this?
Cheers
Jerry
I had a somewhat similar situation with a number of missing plugins after that update. I called Waves support. As usual, they were great. They found the issue quickly and I was back in business.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 00:39:49
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Hi all,
After installing the latest update I encountered a similar issue. My fix was to delete the old Waveshell .ddl from the VST file. It was smooth sailing after that.
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bits2tubes
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 00:53:31
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I've been wanting to put all my vsts in one place. I have room on my C drive, but maybe putting them on another drive would help? Does anyone else have their own system for keeping them straight? I would like them in one place so I could back them up easy... not to mention finding where the vst2s/vst3s are all hiding. I find I have duplicates when I run the scan. Just something else to keep me from actually working on music... If anyone listened to the Jack White interview on the Tape Op podcast #2, I totally get where he was coming from. An 8-track tape machine is all he needs to create great recordings. Sometimes I think I got more creative with my Tascam 4-track.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 01:04:25
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Hi all.
I will elaborate a little further. The update installed the new Waveshell .dll into another VSTplugin folder on my C drive I didn't know I had so the process may have created it. The fix was to drag the Waveshell 9.91 x64.dll file into my preferred VSTplugin folder and delete the old Waveshell .dll file.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 04:21:25
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I had to do about the same. Best of luck!
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 05:26:42
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bits2tubes
This is something I've wondered about for a while. Every software developer seems to have a different idea of where their plugins should go. This has got me confused more than once. I which there was a standard location for plugins to go and all developers installed then there. That would end a lot of headaches for me.
For me it's the opposite. Some developers still think plugins should go Steinberg\VST Plugins. Waves installers are a PITA. I've had where I accidentally removed all of them except for the most recent purchase, I personally do not like the multiple VST installers. Sometimes you end up with a lot of demos. VST installation is something I pay more attention to.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 06:39:10
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Thanks so far for the responses. I've contacted Waves support.
Thanks TheSteven - I'm not using a dongle, my licenses are all on the PC.
I have often thought of rationalising the vst paths, but you know how it is .. it wrecks the current projects so you need to find all the plugs again, etc. My scan path at the moment must have a dozen or so folders in it. But as you say - it may be inherent to the recent Waveshell 9.91 itself.
Cheers
Jerry
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 18:24:28
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☄ Helpfulby bits2tubes 2017/05/14 01:40:20
You can move your plugins any time you want. It won't break old projects - as long as they can still find the plugins.
For Waves, SONAR just as to know where the waves he'll dll is - and this points other all the actual plugins. You can copy the waveshell dll anywhere you want to (from c:\program files (x86)\vst plugins) and it still works fine.
I have all my plugins in one place - c:\vst plugins\64 bit - in various sub folders. Then sonar only has to scan here, the vst3 folder and there's another one for "c:\program files\cakewalk\shared plugins" (or something like that)
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 19:35:53
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☄ Helpfulby bits2tubes 2017/05/14 01:40:46
jbraner
... You can copy the waveshell dll anywhere you want to (from c:\program files (x86)\vst plugins) and it still works fine...
Actually, you can't. But you can move the waveshell dll anywhere you want. Copying the file will only confuse Waves, even if you tell Sonar the new path.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/13 20:13:45
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I still have one in the original location, but SONAR doesn't scan there - then I have a copy in my preferred location - and it works fine :-)
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/14 00:14:35
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☄ Helpfulby bits2tubes 2017/05/14 01:41:22
jbraner
I still have one in the original location, but SONAR doesn't scan there - then I have a copy in my preferred location - and it works fine :-)
I do this also without issues. You just put the path to it in the DAW your using.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/14 01:59:23
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jbraner
I still have one in the original location, but SONAR doesn't scan there - then I have a copy in my preferred location - and it works fine :-)
I do this also without issues. You just put the path to it in the DAW your using.
My mistake then, apologies. I could have sworn I tried it and got grief (Must have been a different VST). It's especially surprising knowing how "quirky" Waves can be with some installs.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/14 09:13:52
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Ok, I'm fixed now. I went back through the process of deleting the cache and all the waveshells (again) and reinstalling and all the plugins are now picked up.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/14 09:14:32
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jbraner
I still have one in the original location, but SONAR doesn't scan there - then I have a copy in my preferred location - and it works fine :-)
I do this also without issues. You just put the path to it in the DAW your using.
The problem comes when they change the version of waveshell. Then you have to be sure that SONAR only sees the one version, and you have to rescan all your VSts. (listen to me - a few weeks ago, I didn't know how any of this worked, but I got burnt when upgrading some Waves stuff. Now I know how it works, and it's not *that* bad...)
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/14 20:15:01
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HI all, I got tired of VST dll's being all over the place. So I created 3 subdirectories in C:\Programs Files\Common Files and C:\Programs Files (x86)\Common Files. I use the common files location because this is where VST3's are installed. VST2 VST3 VSTi All 32-bit go to C:\Programs Files (x86)\Common Files and 64-bit go to C:\Programs Files\Common Files with subfolders. The only thing is you have to maintain it. Like all of you I wish ALL the companies would give us a choice where to install.  This works for all the programs I use including Video Editor's. Make sure in the program you change your scan locations. Brian
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/15 12:48:03
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I had similar problem with the latest update. I tried everything suggested by waves with no result. The vst scan is always came up with errors.
And 2 hours ago out of desperation I tried offline installation and all of a sudden everything went well. All my waves vst are scaned and detected.
So if all else failed, tried offline installation.
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/05/15 13:38:08
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I had similar problem with the latest update. I tried everything suggested by waves with no result. The vst scan is always came up with errors.
And 2 hours ago out of desperation I tried offline installation and all of a sudden everything went well. All my waves vst are scaned and detected.
So if all else failed, tried offline installation.
Same exact thing happened to me. I think there are still some issues in the latest Waves update... Dan
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/06/02 03:00:05
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musichoo
I had similar problem with the latest update. I tried everything suggested by waves with no result. The vst scan is always came up with errors.
And 2 hours ago out of desperation I tried offline installation and all of a sudden everything went well. All my waves vst are scaned and detected.
So if all else failed, tried offline installation.
THANK YOU!! Only a few of my WAVES vst3s vanished and turned into vst2s, not all for some unknown reason. I did your offline install trick: uninstalled plugins with WAVES Central, then did offline install, THEN did edit > preferences > VST settings > Manual scan with both Rescan failed plug-ins and Rescan existing plug-ins checked. That worked, but JUST offline install did not work, it worked when I did the manual scan with both boxes checked. I'm in the middle of a project when this happened. I think installing the new WAVES Central is what did it, and of course WAVES tech help was no help (We don't support X3!) and still 24 hours into a tech email with Cakewalk and no help, so thank goodness for this forum :)
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Re: Waves-hell scan
2017/06/02 03:22:29
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Cakewalk discontinued support for X3 in Jan 2016.
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