konradh
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Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
I use Scarbee basses hosted in Kontakt 5 all the time (Jay Bass most frequently, followed by Rick, and then P Bass, in about a 65%/30%/5% ratio).
A song is up right now and something weird is happening: Freezing the bass takes a LONG time, and byt LONG, I mean like 20 minutes.
HINT: Even though I uninstalled EZ Drummer 2, EZ D 1 is in this track. Freeze issues were the main reasons I uninstalled EZ D 2.
Thoughts?
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/16 20:45:25
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Antivirus?
Also try chkdsk followed by defrag.
Maybe a VST reset for good measure?
Ta.
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 11:26:00
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You might try rebooting your computer. Extremely long render times can be an indication of RAM exhaustion. Even if you have a lot of memory, memory leaks can cause you to run low if your computer's been up for a few days without being rebooted. Another possibility is that your disk drive is taking errors, causing multiple retries as the file is being written.
 All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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ampfixer
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 12:14:38
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Any recent windows updates? Last week my DAW suddenly started to act strange and giving random errors that pointed to HD failure or ram issues. I had to take it to the kids in town for repairs. It was hard to diagnose but eventually was traced to the last updates I installed. I've talked with 2 other people with the same issues stemming from the updates last week.
I only mention it because cause and effect can seem to be related when they are not. For example, if you track ice cream sales and boating accidents the numbers would indicate that the two are related. The real culprit is a third factor called Summer.
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 12:25:13
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This was mentioned before with respect to Kontakt, and removing a disc in the optical drive solved it. I know it's a WTF solution but if you have a disc in the optical drive, try removing it.
There was one other fix for long render times but I can't recall what it was...sorry.
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 15:59:36
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ampfixer
I only mention it because cause and effect can seem to be related when they are not. For example, if you track ice cream sales and boating accidents the numbers would indicate that the two are related. The real culprit is a third factor called Summer.
Sorry for the OT, but I love stuff like this. Another great one I learned in statistics 101 in college was how taller people have progressively shorter hair. The real cause of course being gender averages.
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konradh
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 16:22:14
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post edited by konradh - 2014/08/17 21:17:44
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 16:26:53
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konradh
Craig, I did have a CD in the slot and just removed it. We'll see. Thanks.
Sanderxpander, Thanks for the free education and sarcasm, but I have a mathematics degree and spent many years as a successful software designer at IBM and I understand the difference between correlation and causality.
But many of us here probably don't, and threads are often used as a jumping-off point to deal with related issues which may or may not actually relate to the problem at hand. I think the intention was humor more than anything else.
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 16:33:00
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Konradh, I didn't mean to educate you and there certainly was no sarcasm in my post. I reacted to an example ampfixer gave and I genuinely like these "fake causality" situations. I didn't mean to imply they were applicable to your situation, I even specifically apologized for going off topic. Sorry if you took it amiss.
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konradh
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 16:37:34
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 17:08:39
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"Some instances of EZD1 still say "ezdrummer 2" in the synth rack even after the uninstall, so there is a lingering piece of code or an incorrect dll somewhere"
Same here. I uninstalled EZ2 then EZ1 and reinstalled EZ1.
When I open EZ1 in a project the EZ2 interface shows.
Still waiting on Toontrack support to let me know how to remove EZ2 completely.
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 19:35:08
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konradh
Thanks, Sanderxpander. I apologize for misunderstanding. Take care.
Wait a minute...are you telling me that sometimes, people misunderstand text-only posts written in haste on an internet forum? 
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 19:51:27
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Anderton
Wait a minute...are you telling me that sometimes, people misunderstand text-only posts written in haste on an internet forum?
Must be a Sonar bug... CAKEWALK FIX IT! ;) (This is in no reference to the OP BTW I just want to blame somebody for something today).
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 19:57:43
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CakeAlexS
Anderton
Wait a minute...are you telling me that sometimes, people misunderstand text-only posts written in haste on an internet forum?
Must be a Sonar bug... CAKEWALK FIX IT! ;)
Bogus post. Although you tried to fool us with the ALL CAPS, you made two fatal mistakes identifying you as a non-troll. You didn't use BOLD FACE ALL CAPS. You didn't use 46 exclamation points!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You'll have to try harder.
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 20:04:52
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Crap ;) Back to the drawing board...
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/17 21:17:15
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Stop being so thin-skinned.
Hey Konrad...did the disk drive thing do the trick?
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/18 10:08:36
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Anderton
konradh
Thanks, Sanderxpander. I apologize for misunderstanding. Take care.
Wait a minute...are you telling me that sometimes, people misunderstand text-only posts written in haste on an internet forum?
Grammar sure makes a difference, as well - and no, not Kelsey Grammar - (he has not made a difference in a long time - Expendables 3. When did he become an action hero?): Take this example: "How could you do that" Is it - "How could you do that!" Or is it - "How? Could you do that?" I believe adjectives in posts are often tinder for flame wars. Bob Bone
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/18 18:42:31
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Anderton
Stop being so thin-skinned.
Lol :)
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konradh
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Re: Weird Kontakt/Freeze Behavior
2014/08/20 13:50:05
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The words said were not particularly hard to understand.
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