Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...?

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Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...?

One day, I suddenly could not select, cut, or paste at exact times.  For example, if I have set Sonar to select by Measure, when I try to select, cut, or paste at 5:1:0, I might end up with 4:4:113 or 5:1:03 or some other odd value.  The same thing happens with resolution set to quarter, 8th, 16th, etc.  This means I must always do Select by Time or Paste Special to make sure the time is correct.
 
I have checked Preferences and settings repeatedly and see nothing wrong.
 
I seriously doubt the code has changed unexpectedly, so is there a subtle setting somewhere I am missing?  This is a real productivity killer.
 
Thanks.
 

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 10:33:37 (permalink)
    I will try to play around with this a little later in the day - likely 2-3 hours from now, but will see what happens.  I am finishing packing as I am moving today.
     
    I DEFINITELY make a lot of timing errors, so time-based positioning for me too is quite important.  I will post back in a bit, and will review anything else folks post in the thread on the matter. 
     
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 12:24:22 (permalink)
    Landmarks enabled?
     
    If saving and re-opening the project or restarting SONAR fixes it, I'd say it's likely a bug; otherwise it's probably a setting.
     
    I realize it's a pain to stop working in the throes of creativity and troubleshoot, but it would be best if you brought it up at the time it's occurring and capture a video or screenshot of what's happening and how snap is configured.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 13:29:22 (permalink)
    You've probably checked, but if you're talking audio, make sure Snap to Nearest Audio Zero Crossings is unchecked under Preferences > Customization > Snap to Grid. I think having this checked is the default, so when you upgrade, it gets re-checked. 

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 13:51:08 (permalink)
    Thanks, Craig.  This is MIDI and Audio.  It is like my cursor just won't snap to an "even" time. I will, however, check the setting you recommend.  It would be great if that were the fix.
     
    Should I write a big dramatic post like "I've had it with Sonar!!  Going to Studio One!!"   Haha...just kidding.
     
    In all seriousness, as you know, I think I have a corrupted install that is not Sonar's fault and I am going to upgrade to the latest and greatest in a few weeks.  Maybe a lot of my weird issues will go away.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 13:54:55 (permalink)
    I didn't think zero-crossings was a likely suspect because the nearest zero-crossing is usually within a few ticks and wouldn't account for such large errors when snap is at a measure. But I was wondering whether this occurs when selecting in the timeline or only in clips...?

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 13:59:25 (permalink)
    I put the cursor on the timeline and click to mark the start or thru or the paste location.  It appears that the time is always EXACTLY wherever I put the cursor which of course is seldom EXACTLY at a measure or bar, no matter how hard I try.  If you have Measure selected as the resolution/snap, you should be able to drag on the timeline just within a beat or two and get what you want.
     
    The odd thing is how it just stopped working one day as though I bumped a keyboard shortcut by mistake.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 15:44:14 (permalink)
    I am using a newer version of sonar than you are - however - is the "to" and "By" switch in the correct position?

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 15:58:59 (permalink)
    If I didn't know you, Konradh I'd say check the Snap To/By settings or Snap to Landmarks or all the various other wackiness that can happen with Snap.
     
    Then again maybe it's just one of those brainfart things and Snap got borked out on ya without you realizing.
     
    Complex tool that masquerades as simple but once something gets knocked out of default settings it can really wreak havoc.
     
    That would defs be the first place I'd look and I'm sure you already have so this post is probably useless.
     
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 16:39:53 (permalink)
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    That would defs be the first place I'd look and I'm sure you already have so this post is probably useless.
     



    But not to the person who experiences this in the future and remembers what you said.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 16:53:24 (permalink)
    Anderton
     
    But not to the person who experiences this in the future and remembers what you said.




    True dat. My "forum archiving/search indexing" philosophy towards commenting escaped me for a moment.
     
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 17:09:58 (permalink)
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    I put the cursor on the timeline and click to mark the start or thru or the paste location.  It appears that the time is always EXACTLY wherever I put the cursor which of course is seldom EXACTLY at a measure or bar, no matter how hard I try.  If you have Measure selected as the resolution/snap, you should be able to drag on the timeline just within a beat or two and get what you want.
     
    The odd thing is how it just stopped working one day as though I bumped a keyboard shortcut by mistake.


    So you're saying that selecting time ranges and setting the Now time in the timeline has just stopped snapping to measures in all projects with Global Snap enabled at a measure? Or just one particular project?
     
    To/By won't affect selection in any case; it only affects moving things.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 17:34:27 (permalink)
    Have you tried increasing the magnetic strength in snap settings, just a shot in the dark but maybe it got changed on you.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 17:53:40 (permalink)
    Another possibility is Snap Offset, although this is a per-clip setting, so most probably this is not the problem.
    But just in case: If you open the clip inspector, the Snap Offset value should be 0.
     
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 18:09:25 (permalink)
    Oh, sorry, I misunderstood - OK.
    I have this too. It has always behaved like this, even in Sonar 8 IIRC.
    My workaround has always been to switch to split at Samples, not M:T:B
    And by the way, there is a bug so the very first time, it ignores the change in the dialog box from M:T:B to Samples and splits at M:T:B anyway.
    You need to do it once, let it mess up, then do an undo, try again, and only then does it split at sample (and only for as long as your Sonar session is open. Close and reopen Sonar, and you need to go throught that again.)
    post edited by twelvetone - 2015/10/05 18:19:25
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 18:18:05 (permalink)
    Well, this is embarassing.
    I have just tried it in my Hopkinton, and what I described above seems to have been fixed!
    Apologies for adding to the noise.
    I shall slink out the door now and hope nobody notices...
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 22:24:57 (permalink)
    I may just have to live with this until an upgrade, but in answer to questions:
     
    - Snap to Grid is On and set to Measure
    - Event Draw Duration is set to Whole (although that shouldn't matter)
    - Audio Zero Crossings is Off
    - Magnetic Strength is High (although I have tried every setting)
    - With ticks per quarter=120, I dragged in a MIDI staff and got these From and To values: 5:04:073 to 6:03:102
    - Dragging in the timeline (still set to Measure) I got 14:03:002 to 17:03:060
    - Oddly it is EASIER (but not guaranteed) to get even 1/8 notes dragging in the Timeline, but of course I am not set to 1/8th.
     

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/05 22:58:18 (permalink)
    Edit: Ignore this, I tried it and you would see the resolution is different at the module if you had hit this inadvertently.
     
     

     
     
    By default, SONAR uses the global Snap to Grid settings when snap is enabled. However, you can also specify a secondary Snap to Grid resolution that is in effect when holding down the N key.
    To assign the secondary Snap to Grid settings, hold down the N key while selecting the desired snap settings in the Control Bar’s Snap module.
    To momentarily apply the secondary Snap to Grid resolution, hold down the N key while dragging or editing data that is snapping to the grid. When the N key is released, the main global snap settings are restored.
    To swap the primary and secondary Snap to Grid settings, press CTRL+SHIFT+N.
      
    Note: To enable/disable Snap to Grid, press the N key quickly. To assign or use the secondary Snap to Grid resolution, keep the N key pressed.
      
    Tip: You can configure the secondary Snap to Grid resolution to effectively bypass snapping when holding down the N key. To do so, hold down the N key while disabling the snap resolution and snap landmarks in the Control Bar’s Snap module. Snapping will now be temporarily disabled while you hold down the N key.
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/07 08:12:44 (permalink)
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    I may just have to live with this until an upgrade, but in answer to questions:
     
    - Snap to Grid is On and set to Measure
    - Event Draw Duration is set to Whole (although that shouldn't matter)
    - Audio Zero Crossings is Off
    - Magnetic Strength is High (although I have tried every setting)
    - With ticks per quarter=120, I dragged in a MIDI staff and got these From and To values: 5:04:073 to 6:03:102
    - Dragging in the timeline (still set to Measure) I got 14:03:002 to 17:03:060
    - Oddly it is EASIER (but not guaranteed) to get even 1/8 notes dragging in the Timeline, but of course I am not set to 1/8th.
     




    Have you tried turning Snap off and back on again, then changing the Snap value to something else and then back to Measure again?  You know, sort of "resetting" both?
     

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/07 13:34:12 (permalink)
    It's still not clear whether this is all projects, including a new one started from Platinum's default Normal template...? Possibly you have one or more project templates from which you're creating all your projects that have some issue in common.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/07 18:48:33 (permalink)
    Just created a new project using a Sonar normal template.
     
    Setting note values on 1/4 and snap to grid on 1/16:
     
    • Using the pencil to add notes in the Staff View did *NOT* put them at even 1/4 note intervals.  They are at times like 3:01:267 and 3:3:593.
    • Attempting to drag-select from the beginning of a bar gave me a start time of 3:1:007.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/07 23:51:28 (permalink)
    I would stay away from the Staff View for testing since snap mostly follows the Display Resolution setting there, regardless of Global Snap. But if timeline selection in the TV is still not snapping per the Global Snap resolution in a new project, then something is definitely weird.
     
    I somehow missed that you're still on X1. There were some snap anomalies back in that era, but nothing quite like this. Dunno what to tell you. Have you rebooted since this came up?

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/08 09:31:11 (permalink)
    Hi, there and thanks.  Rebooted many times.
     
    1-Staff is important because I do 90% of my work there.
    2-That said, dragging, cutting, copying, and pasting in the timeline isn't working right.
     
    It appears upgrade is the next thing to try.  This is still an interesting mystery, though.  Code does not just suddenly stop working.  There must be some hidden (intentional or unintentional) shortcut that disables the function.  I was hoping Cakewalk would jump in with some advice, but perhaps it is just as mysterious to them.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/08 11:02:55 (permalink)
    I forgot X1 still had the old snap settings arrangement. See this post for a possible explanation/solution:
     
         http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2486473
     
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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/10 17:23:41 (permalink)
    Thank you but Absolute Time was not turned on.
     
    For the sake of completeness, I turned it on and the problem got no better or worse.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/10 18:25:34 (permalink)
    Do you have Aim Assist turned on? Just a vague hunch. I seem to remember some kind of oddity with Aim Assist to do with timing but I can't remember exactly what it was.

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/11 00:44:30 (permalink)
    Nope.  Although I use Aim Assist when splitting clips.  Then I turn it off because the extra vertical line is confusing for my limited brain.
     
    Guys, I appreciate the help.  I don't think this one is going to get solved, but thanks very much.
     

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    Re: Weird Time Thing We Can't Figure Out: Maybe Cakewalk Can Answer...? 2015/10/11 19:00:52 (permalink)
    konradh
    Just created a new project using a Sonar normal template.



    Do it with a blank template (no template). Ta.

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