Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope

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2015/11/12 14:41:53 (permalink)

Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope

Here's a screenshot of Ozone's vectorscope. It looks pretty normal: the L/R balance meter at the bottom shows everything more or less in the center, the phase meter shows everything in phase, and the vectorscope shows a nice stereo spread. This reflects what I hear in the mix: a nicely-spread image.

 
Now here's what is ostensibly the same information as displayed in Insight's vectorscope. It shows everything coming out the left channel, no stereo dispersion and phase smack in the middle as if it was a mono signal. This odd display is the same whether Insight precedes or follows Ozone, or if it's the only plugin on the bus. It does not change if I go into mono, either by setting the bus interleave or by clicking the Mono button in Ozone.

 
So - am I using Insight incorrectly?


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    yorolpal
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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:03:44 (permalink)
    Maybe tilt your head a bit when you're reading it while singing "Come On Ilene"??

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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:11:55 (permalink)
    I just checked and mine is the same...it appears that the Right Channel is being
    fed to the Center meter...hence making everything go LEFT...

    Working on trying to figure what the deal is here...


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:11:59 (permalink)
    Here I expected some serious advice from you, like slaying a chicken under a full moon.


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:13:33 (permalink)
    cclarry
    I just checked and mine is the same...it appears that the Right Channel is being
    fed to the Center meter...hence making everything go LEFT...

    Working on trying to figure what the deal is here...


    Thanks for verifying that, Larry. But I don't see such a setting anywhere in the Options dialog...


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:18:55 (permalink)
    bitflipper
    Here I expected some serious advice from you, like slaying a chicken under a full moon.




    Just remember before the slaying have your poltice ready and be wearing your acifidity bag.  Then eat everything but the cluck.  At least that's what the Monkey's Paw signed to me.
     

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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:21:21 (permalink)
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    cclarry
    I just checked and mine is the same...it appears that the Right Channel is being
    fed to the Center meter...hence making everything go LEFT...

    Working on trying to figure what the deal is here...


    Thanks for verifying that, Larry. But I don't see such a setting anywhere in the Options dialog...



    I can't find one either....time to send a ticket to Izotope....

    Good catch Bit...I've hardly used the Stereo Meter so never even noticed...


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:24:01 (permalink)
    Well there was a new update posted on Nov 3rd...I'll install it and see what happens...
     


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:29:37 (permalink)
    Found it...you have to go to "Options" then "I\O" and set it to SMPTE...then it will display properly
     
    post edited by cclarry - 2015/11/12 16:09:35


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:56:29 (permalink)
    Good catch, Larry!
     
    Here's what little the help pdf has to say (my emphasis):
     
    After instantiating Insight on a surround track you may need to adjust the
    channel configuration in Insight to match that of your DAW or session.
    As a default Insight uses film channel configuration(L,C,R,Ls,Rs,LFE).
    Other available configurations are SMPTE/ITU (L,R,C,LFE,Ls,Rs) and DTS
    (L,R,Ls,Rs,C,LFE). You may adjust the channel configuration going into Insight
    as well as the display order of meters from the I/O Options Tab.

     
    Perhaps SONAR is identifying the master bus to the plugin as a Surround bus, which it isn't.
     
     
    post edited by bitflipper - 2015/11/12 16:11:31


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:58:44 (permalink)
    Being as that this is used for music, you'd think there would be a standard "Stereo" setting,
    aside from all the Film settings...but hey...what do I know...
    post edited by cclarry - 2015/11/12 16:09:22


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 15:59:57 (permalink)
    The update was newer then what I had..so at least you posting this 
    led me to that...need to hit those "Check for Update" buttons more often...LOL


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 16:05:02 (permalink)
    BTW...I didn't even have the "Help" files...it said "Please reinstall Insight"...
    which I did do and NOW I have the help files...


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 18:28:40 (permalink)
    I didn't have a help file, either. I downloaded it from iZotope.com.


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    Re: Weirdness with Insight Vectorscope 2015/11/12 22:56:30 (permalink)
    Dexys Midnight Runners!

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