AnsweredWell H-Reverb was a waste of money :P

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2016/01/06 00:10:17 (permalink)

Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P

I am far too much of a sucker for deals. H-Reverb was one of the "X-tra off just for you !!!111one" deals from Waves for me. I grabbed the demo, but had little time to mess with it since family was down for Christmas. At the end of the sale I said "Oh fine" and bought it. It sounded pretty good the little I played with it and I would really like a nice synthetic reverb that I can lock to the tempo and use for general purpose stuff.
 
...well this ended up being like every other synthetic 'verb which is to say unable to do good hall sounds for drums. They sound splatty on the low end, as ever. A good IR of a real hall sounds great, but I can never get a synthetic reverb to come close. I really should stop trying, I clearly like real reverbs and I have two really good ones (IR-L and Spaces). However I keep messing with synthetics and never being happy.
 
Oh well, more expensive toys I never play with :D.
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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 09:07:17 (permalink)
Try the new PSP 2445 reverb on the drum buss. Totally worth a listen..!

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 09:23:48 (permalink)
I've not tried it personally but it sounds decent. However, at this point synthetic reverb is kind of synthetic reverb, is there THAT much more originality in there? I'm happy to be wrong however.

I find Breverb 2 pretty good for synthetic reverb stuff but I usually favour IR based reverbs for anything I want big and natural.

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 10:00:41 (permalink)
Breverb 2 is great for small space emulation in my opinion. IR based reverbs are also great all around I agree.  

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 11:01:10 (permalink)
Have you tried Valhalla Room or 2cAudio's Breeze?  I find both really nice for room verbs.
 
As far as H-Reverb I got the impression from the ads that it's more a sound-designer's tool.  IOW, it wouldn't be my first choice for natural-sounding verbs.

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 11:04:15 (permalink)
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IR based reverbs are also great all around I agree.  


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Daniel, is it significant in any way that you're from Salem and your post count is now at 666?

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 11:18:01 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby dcumpian 2016/01/06 12:17:30
Welp...H-Reverb has so much under the hood tweakability that I'm tempted to say if you can't get what your after you're just not holdin yor mouth right while tryin.  That said my only real gripe with it is it's a dang cpu hog.  And how.
 

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 12:23:05 (permalink)
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IR based reverbs are also great all around I agree.  


+1
 
Daniel, is it significant in any way that you're from Salem and your post count is now at 666?


 I don't live in THAT Salem.. I'm in New Hampshire.. The one you're referring to is in Massachusetts.. I get that question all of the time!   But I'm at 668 posts now so I'm safe.. Whew!

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 12:46:46 (permalink)
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I don't live in THAT Salem.. I'm in New Hampshire.. The one you're referring to is in Massachusetts..


Yeah, I know, but the joke doesn't work if you're in NH. 
 
Seriously, people ask you that all the time?  It only caught my eye because of the 666.  With that combo, I couldn't resist.

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 12:58:43 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby Sycraft 2016/01/06 16:54:20
You see, Sycraft, your problem was you didn't buy enough reverbs! Keep spending, it's the only way out.


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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 16:42:03 (permalink)
That does seem to the the general consensus :D. I actually have a bunch, I have Breverb 2, RC 24, RC 48, Trueverb, Sonitus, and BlueVerb in the synthetics and Spaces, IR-L, Reflektor, and REmatrix Solo in the IR based. Now I have H-Reverb too, of course.
 
The issue I have, which is a minor one, is that I use reverb for blend and space. I like to put all my instruments together in a real space, specifically a nice concert hall. However I like the ability to a synthetic reverb to sync the reverberation to the tempo of the song. So, if I could find a synthetic that sounded like a real hall and could od that, great.
 
Thus far though, none work. They all work well for specific things, but putting them over everything ends up being problematic, particularly for the bass drum. It just ends up splatty in hall spaces. You tighten it up and it works fine, but that's not what I want.
 
So I thought maybe H-Reverb. Nope. Oh well. :P
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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 17:11:15 (permalink)
At the risk of sounding hypocritical, I have to note that ValhallaRoom's "Large Room" mode does a fine job on percussive parts, including kicks.


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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/06 20:05:28 (permalink)
I have breeze and aether from 2Caudio. I have demoed as many synthetic reverb as possible and tried them all on vocals, strings, piano and drums. And for my taste (pianist) Breeze beat Valhalla by a mile. I could not relate to all the hype about Valhalla Room. (Please don't kill me VR fans).
 
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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/07 06:24:41 (permalink)
Sounds like you need IKMultimedia's CSR to add to your reverb repertoire.

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/07 09:28:55 (permalink)
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Sounds like you need IKMultimedia's CSR to add to your reverb repertoire.



I'm going a little off topic here, but this is interesting information I thought everyone would like to know:
 
The IK Classic Studio Reverb was developed by Relab!
 
http://www.soundonsound.com/news?NewsID=13056
 
"Relab Development are a Danish company that specialise in plug-in coding. They were founded in 2004 and, while you may not have heard their name before, you’ll almost certainly have heard (or heard of) the fruits of their labours: IK Multimedia’s Classik Studio Reverb and SSL’s X-Verb (for their Duende DSP processors) are but two of the plug-ins they’ve had a hand in.
Now Relab have released the first plug-in under their own name, and it promises to be something rather special. The LX480 is, as its name implies, a model of the revered Lexicon 480L, one of the most iconic digital reverbs ever, and one that still gets used today despite being over 20 years old!"
 
 
Now back on topic:
 
The OP (Sycraft) should try out the Relab LX480 Hall. It might have the sound you are looking for.
 http://www.relab.dk/
 
 
 
 
 
 
post edited by mikedocy - 2016/01/07 09:42:05
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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/07 09:40:26 (permalink)
Still somewhat off topic, are all four CSR verbs recommended? I have Hall and Plate, but didn't get Room or Inverse. And a bit further off topic, just got another oldie, PSP EasyVerb. Now that's a sweet Lolita.

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Re: Well H-Reverb was a waste of money :P 2016/01/07 18:01:05 (permalink)
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Sounds like you need IKMultimedia's CSR to add to your reverb repertoire.



When all else fail, CSR always seems to work on drums and percussions for me. I rarely use it, but I like to know that it's there if I need it.

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