What Happened to Lexicon Pantheon Reverb...???

hello again...
 
just upgraded from SONAR 7 Producer to SONAR XI Producer...& noticed there was NO Lexicon Pantheon reverb included w/ the app.
 
I REALLY like this verb...very professional sounding, IMO...& I have several SONAR 7 projects w/ this plugin loaded...SO:
 
1) can this be purchased from cake as an extra...???
 
2) is it available elsewhere as a plugin...???
 
3) can I somehow grab the *.dll file from SONAR 7's Vstplugins folder...& will that work...???
 
thanx,
 
 
mark4man

Yeah, just put in your SONAR 7 disk and install Lexicon Pantheon Reverb from there. You can select just to install that. You don't have to install the program files or anything else from the SONAR 7 disk. :)

Yes, I still use it as my go-to reverb.
I also enquired from the Lexicon UK distributor whether Pantheon 2 was available as a separate VST but they confirmed what is on their web site, i.e. it is only available bundled with their hardware products.  

SvenArne


There's been a lot of kwestions regarding the Pantheon ever sinse Cake dropped it. It's becoming legendary!

Am I the only one who's always found the Sonitus Reverb far superior?

Sven

Pantheon can be a bit wild and weird it always needed a bit of a firm hand to get it into a usable state but in some kases I've liked how it's sounded.

I've always preferred StudioVerb out of the Kake bundled ones.

Those are my kwazy konklusions...

If you really want the Lexicon sound, Lexicon has recently released a lower cost version of their native plugin version - called the MPX Native Reverb Plug-In, it includes algorithms for: 
 
Small Plate
Large Plate
Small Hall
Large Hall
Small Chamber
Large Chamber
Room

http://www.lexiconpro.com/product.php?id=176 

Compared to the hefty price of their  full fledged PCR Native Reverb Bundle at over a grand, the MPX Reverb Plug-In can be had for a more reasonable price at under $200 (still a little expensive, but if you really want the Lexicon algorithms it will cost you).


They actually have three price points now for their plug-in line - PCR series at $1000, LXP at about $500, and the newest MPX at the $200 price point so at least they are realizing not everyone can afford to drop serious cash on reverb plug-ins.


Personally - I found ValhallaRoom from ValhallaDSP to be my go to Reverb plug-in these days, at the price of $50 it's hard to beat.  I know others here use it as well.



http://www.valhalladsp.com/valhallaroom

OK, how does one get the 64bit version?

SteveStrummerUK

Muziekschuur at home


..... I'm told it's even available in 64bit

Yes, it's definitely available in 64bit Frans.

Lynn


OK, how does one get the 64bit version?

SteveStrummerUK

Muziekschuur at home


..... I'm told it's even available in 64bit

Yes, it's definitely available in 64bit Frans.

 
Hi Lynn, I'll try and find out for you which installation disc my 64bit version came from, but it was installed (by default IIRC) to:
    
     Program Files (64bit) > Cakewalk > Shared Plugins
 
 
In Plugin Manager, it appears in the DirectX Audio Effects (DX) list.

I have that in the same file, but under properties it is listed as version 1.21 and a direct x file, not a vst.  Do you have something more recent?

SteveStrummerUK

Lynn


OK, how does one get the 64bit version?

SteveStrummerUK

Muziekschuur at home


..... I'm told it's even available in 64bit

Yes, it's definitely available in 64bit Frans.

 
Hi Lynn, I'll try and find out for you which installation disc my 64bit version came from, but it was installed (by default IIRC) to:
    
     Program Files (64bit) > Cakewalk > Shared Plugins
 
 
In Plugin Manager, it appears in the DirectX Audio Effects (DX) list.

SvenArne

StudioVerb? That's the one from Project 5 (or was it Home Studio)? Never tried it.
 
I always thought the Pantheon had kind of a grainy and brittle "cheap 90's digital boks sound" to it.

Korrekt as far as StudioVerb goes.

I agree about Pantheon's sound too but it works when cheap 90's boksy is rekwired.

thanx everybody...
 

Am I the only one who's always found the Sonitus Reverb far superior?...I always thought the Pantheon had kind of a grainy and brittle "cheap 90's digital boks sound" to it. Never kould make it work for me. I find the Sonitus has more smoother and denser platelike sound. I still use it as a kwikk and easy trakking verb

hhmmmnnnnn...I find the sonitus to be the grainy one...love the pantheon for lead vocals.  i track my vox thru an akg c414 > sytek mpx-4a > lynx aurora8...& the pantheon always makes them shine at 5%-10% 
 

Hi Lynn, I'll try and find out for you which installation disc my 64bit version came from, but it was installed (by default IIRC) to:

Program Files (64bit) > Cakewalk > Shared Plugins

went to my v7 install disc first...but couldn't find it.  from that path, tho...maybe it's on my most recent backup. 
 
(how exactly is it available on the original install disc...???)
 
will also have a listen to valhalla.
 
thanx again,
 
 
mark4man

UPDATE:  
purchased valhalla room...thanx
 

Wouldn't the same be true of the 8.5 version?  Is this with Windows 7 in mind?

thomasabarnes

(how exactly is it available on the original install disc...???)

 
Put in the SONAR 7 disk and choose 64bit install.

When you come to the Select Components section of the SONAR 7 install (where it has Program Files, Audio Plugins, MIDI Plugins, Soft Synths, Sample Files, etc.,) uncheck all the boxes (scroll down the list too and uncheck them all,) then go back up.

The Lexicon Pantheon Reverb is the 2nd in the list under Audio Plugins, put a check mark in that one and proceed with the installation. That should do it.

Lynn


Wouldn't the same be true of the 8.5 version?  Is this with Windows 7 in mind?

thomasabarnes

(how exactly is it available on the original install disc...???)

Put in the SONAR 7 disk and choose 64bit install.

When you come to the Select Components section of the SONAR 7 install (where it has Program Files, Audio Plugins, MIDI Plugins, Soft Synths, Sample Files, etc.,) uncheck all the boxes (scroll down the list too and uncheck them all,) then go back up.

The Lexicon Pantheon Reverb is the 2nd in the list under Audio Plugins, put a check mark in that one and proceed with the installation. That should do it.

At some point, there became an Advanced option for the SONAR installation. On versions with the Advanced option, one has to select the Advanced option to get to the Components section of the SONAR installer during the installtion setup or the installer would just go with some default installation settings that doesn't included giving the user the option to select what is to be installed. I'm not sure which version the Advanced option started with.
 
Getting to the Components section of the installation setup is easy and doesn't matter which version of Windows you install on. If it is a SONAR version that has the Advanced option, one will have the opportunity to select the Advanced option during the installation and when Advanced option is selected, sooner or later, one will see the Components section and be able to select what one wants installed.
 
If it is a SONAR version without the Advanced installation option, one will come to the Components part of the installation as the installation wizard progresses.
 
Hope that helps.

Am I the only one who places an eq in front of Pantheon?

Pretty much standard practice, I think. Even though many reverbs have built-in high- and low-pass filters, I prefer the flexibility of a separate parametric equalizer in front of, and sometimes after, reverbs. If your vocal has any problem resonances in it, for example, reverb can exaggerate it unless you mitigate the problem frequencies going in.


I also like to put compression in front of a vocal reverb, often with a filtered sidechain. This clamps down loud consonants that might make the reverb effect too noticeable.


Lynn: you should be able to install Pantheon from any version of SONAR that included it, starting with 3 and ending with 8.5. Even if you have to do a full install of the old version, that's really not going to hurt anything.