What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with DATA, audio and midi All settings that apply to the selected tracks and clips PROJECT Import/Combine/Select Tracks/Select Settings match tempo, Colors, buses,... There is lots of CREATIVITY to be gained by these functions. I will pay lots of money quickly for these functions. I have suggested this for at least 6 years. Should have been included when Track Templates were introduced. ( hashbrown:MOD: this is not a mere feature suggestion. This is a conversation about the future of SONAR, during the Gibson generation. )
post edited by YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson - 2014/12/07 15:14:56
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2014/12/07 11:30:56
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I don't quite understand the importance of this. I assume what you mean isn't so much a template, but the ability to take an entire track - all aspects of it - and perhaps be able to transfer it among projects?
If so, is it something you would use so much that it wouldn't be sufficient to drag the data you want to use into the media browser, call up a track template, then drag the data back in? I know that's more steps, but I'm just wondering how often you'd want to use the same data in multiple projects. It seems the media browser is a useful repository for data that you can bring into projects as needed.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2014/12/07 11:39:40
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Track templates with data are called projects in SONAR. Projects can be brought directly into another project by dragging the project file from the browser into the current project.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2014/12/07 11:52:12
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I think what would be really useful if we could apply track templates to an existing track.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2014/12/07 12:18:27
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Unless I'm missing something, I think it can be done:
Save what you want to import in another project as a project with different name.
Then import it by dragging from the browser into the project.
Need a bit of organization, but can be done, I think.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2014/12/07 15:24:00
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Thank you for your responses.
Copying/importing a midi/wav file does not bring along the effects, synths, envelopes, routing, busses, eq,... that a track template is programed to do.
A track template with data would do this. As written above a track template with data is a project.
Yes I understand about inserting a track template and then copying the data, but this is not complete.
Without the track and clip information imported/copied audio wavs and midi files are raw data.
Example: I have 3 variations of a project. In each I changed purc envelopes, and eq, and samples... for the same six midi purc tracks.
Now I want to combine just the purc tracks from the 3 variations. Not just the MIDI, but all parameters.
Dragging a project from the browser does not add the buses, routing, synths,...
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2014/12/07 19:29:58
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Another example of use:
Create a project, record a bit
Bundle and send to 2+ collaborators
They add their bits, adjustments, envelopes,...., and return
Review, and combine the new bits with the master project
Repeat as needed
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2014/12/10 14:11:13
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YouDontHasToCallMeJohnson
Another example of use:
Create a project, record a bit
Bundle and send to 2+ collaborators
They add their bits, adjustments, envelopes,...., and return
Review, and combine the new bits with the master project
Repeat as needed
OK, I can see the benefit of having a feature that allows you to export and import a track with data. However I wouldn't want the resulting files to be stored in the same folder as the track templates. Track Templates are meant to be saved for re-use in future projects. Tracks with data would only be relevant to a single project and the word "template" wouldn't apply here.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/06 13:29:54
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Hi R J bumping is actual a breach of the CoC but in answer to you first request regards templates you can generate your own.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/06 14:12:07
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Why can I not bimp a thread if it is still relevant and topical and interesting?
Silly rules.
I want templates that save data.
I want to be able to export/import tracks/folders with all settings and data.
I want to be able to import tracks from other projects.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/06 15:38:18
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Bumping threads to the extent that you are doing here is bad forum etiquette, it's saying "my threads are more important than anyone else's." You're not just bumping your own threads, you're pushing others out of the way.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/06 16:16:55
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Why can I not bimp a thread if it is still relevant and topical and interesting?
Silly rules.
I want templates that save data.
I want to be able to export/import tracks/folders with all settings and data.
I want to be able to import tracks from other projects.
Bumping so much is kinda like 
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/06 19:06:46
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Why can I not bimp a thread if it is still relevant and topical and interesting?
Maybe instead of a "bump" you could have revived the thread by responding to the point that I made in Post#8. The ball was in your court really.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/06 20:55:56
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I am not whining. I have pushed my suggestions to the top because no one else is suggesting such wonderful features.
And given the number of responses I git every time, sorta suggests that some more users are happy that I have done so.
This is a particularly great idea. It has been suggested for years. It is available in many other DAWs.
The greatest DAW on earth should have this ability.
Amazing how much attention is placed upon form and not substance.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/09 17:13:42
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It is worth noting that midi data is not only notes. It can be setup info for external equipment. I like the idea of being able to include sysex dumps and other setup data within a track template and retrieve this like a supermulti.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/09 19:35:47
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Many other major DAWs have a feature that provides for "importing" from other projects. And have had them for years
This feature will significantly improve the ease of collaboration.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/09 21:32:03
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So how about yous who do not want this tell us why.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 01:00:05
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So how about yous who do not want this tell us why.
I don't think it is a case of people "not wanting it" as in being against it, so much as people not feeling strongly enough about it to actively want it. If i have to think too hard about why i would need something, chances are i don't need it. To me it just sounds like a highly specialized project file. I can see a way to use something like you propose, but for me i would likely not use it for fear of developing a cookie cutter approach.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 02:25:42
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It's still rude to bump...
Everyone thinks their feature suggestions are awesome, not just you.
When you bump, you're shoving other posts out of the way to elevate your own artificially.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 02:32:12
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 09:32:10
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If I get this right, this request is about partial imports of projects. That's indeed a feature that some other DAWs have (REAPER and Pro Tools are two examples), and I do like it. It can be very helpful when you work on different styles a lot and want to import, say, a part of the latest pop project you mixed into the current one, because you think the way you treated the vocals there would be a perfect fit for the new project.
It isn't an essential feature, but it would be a helpful one IMO. However, there are other things I would like to see implemented in Sonar first. Partial imports are nothing that keeps me from using Sonar on an every day basis. Lots of other things do though.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 11:25:20
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Being able to collaborate and have only the contributed part returned is way good.
This means not having to wait for someone to add/modify a part as it can be added whenever.
I have a project with 4 variations. I now want to export the percussion midi tracks, with all routings and synths and settings, and combine them into one project. Currently this cannot be done.
Since track templates are essentially projects I find no major reason for data to not be included.
If a micro company (COCKOS) can do this shouldn't a small company (CW) be able to do this?
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 14:04:52
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Being able to collaborate and have only the contributed part returned is way good.
This means not having to wait for someone to add/modify a part as it can be added whenever.
I have a project with 4 variations. I now want to export the percussion midi tracks, with all routings and synths and settings, and combine them into one project. Currently this cannot be done.
Since track templates are essentially projects I find no major reason for data to not be included.
If a micro company (COCKOS) can do this shouldn't a small company (CW) be able to do this?
Now you are reaching. The "if this company can do this, why can't this company do it" logic is flawed and along the lines of "if they can cure polio, shouldn't they be able to cure the common cold?". It's not that black and white. It's not like it is a matter of simply hitting the on switch. This may someday be a feature, but thus far it seems like most seem too ho-hum about it to even scratch the surface of being a priority.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 15:56:07
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I am not trying to be a jerk.
For years we have been repeatedly told CW is a small company.
COCKOS is a micro company. And often posts refer to functions and features Reaper has that Sonar does not.
Sure it goes the other way as well. But it is truly amazing how quickly Reaper has developed. This is mainly because of the support of 3rd parties.
Reaper has some great features: macros, user and 3rd party extensions, completely customizable interface, importing, and so on. Sonar had some of these features with 8.5.3. And now 4 years on we get some command ribbon and some color control.
Sonar had track templates just after Reaper was born. This is one of those features that would be great to be taken to its next logical step.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 18:19:53
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I'll help you bump your thread again by adding that your feature request doesn't interest me in the least. I can't imagine anything I would want to use it for.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/10 18:35:02
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I may be misunderstanding the OP, but if you open two projects you can move tracks between them. I have never stress-tested this and only used it a couple times to rebuild old projects. As far as templates you can easily create a track template from either project, insert it in the other and copy the track data over. Not a one-step process, but seems it would work for what you have mentioned.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/14 19:20:07
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Thank you for your responses.
Copying/importing a midi/wav file does not bring along the effects, synths, envelopes, routing, busses, eq,... that a track template is programed to do.
A track template with data would do this. As written above a track template with data is a project.
Yes I understand about inserting a track template and then copying the data, but this is not complete.
Without the track and clip information imported/copied audio wavs and midi files are raw data.
Example: I have 3 variations of a project. In each I changed purc envelopes, and eq, and samples... for the same six midi purc tracks.
Now I want to combine just the purc tracks from the 3 variations. Not just the MIDI, but all parameters.
Dragging a project from the browser does not add the buses, routing, synths,...
Well, I didn't think that I would need to do something similar to what you want to do but today I did. That said, I don't think it would need to be a track template but an expansion to the import features of SONAR. It would be in the File menu possibly as "Import Track(s)" or maybe under the edit menu as "Copy Track(s)" and "Paste Track(s)." In either scenario, a tracks attributes and content would be copied as well as any bus assignments (including effects). It would then allow you by means of a preferences window to change what you want to copy or paste in a different project - along the lines of Copy Special and Paste Special.
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Re: What I want most is: TRACK TEMPLATES with data audio and midi
2015/03/15 04:38:05
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I think the request is really simple to do for devs - just extend save track templates with a few checkboxes, like Reaper has - "Save clips with template" (items in Reaper).
Everything else could stay the same.
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