easyjoey
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What are you using on vocal Pops?
I am mixing a live show recording of a vocalist and acoustic guitar. The recording has a fair number of vocal pops and I would like to remove as many as possible. I know I can draw a quick envelope to remove them but that is tedious. What are you technics or go-to effects to address this issue? Thanks Joe
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gswitz
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/07 10:01:46
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Type vox into the browser and you will turn up Craig's cool tool to solve the pops. I usually split the clip around the pop and drag Craig's vox tools onto the clip. Fade clip boundaries around 10 or something really short. There is some three letter thing in the tool that is on by default. I don't know what that does. Craig? I always turn it off.
post edited by gswitz - 2015/08/07 10:42:36
StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Cactus Music
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/07 11:36:33
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You asked what I do and that is to open the track using "tool" into Wave Lab. Pops are usually visable so you can quickly run throught the track and look for them. With most wave editors it's fast repeditive action to either lower the gain for the peak or apply a hi pass EQ which will ussually diminish the pop to a reasonable level. Right now for me it's easier to do this in a wave editor as I find Sonar's editing requires more moves to accomplish this. Fine if it's only a few, but 2 hours of audio with these issues can become tiresome if your having to make more than one or 2 mouse clicks to repeat a task. I look forward to Sonar's forthcoming Wave editor.
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/07 14:01:57
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rx4 spectral tool I take pops out of sermons
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/13 04:40:52
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I place the mike below the mouth and infront of the neck, it provides a very rich sound and no pops...I know that doesn't help you now or maybe ever bu5t it may help some.. :) -S
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/13 11:24:57
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Cactus Music, To your point about seeing the pops: - I have seen videos on this and it looks easy - However, either looking at the raw wave or the Melodyne blob, I always THINK I see the pop, but I have seldom been able to trim it out successfully. I will try Shawn's method. Of course, avoiding them to begin with is ideal, but with some singers, it is just really hard to avoid on certain words. And I hate to get the singer so stressed about not popping, that the performance goes downhill. (By the way, I have never had a pop screen that did a very good job. Helps a little, but doesn't keep out the pops.)
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/13 12:50:36
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gswitz There is some three letter thing in the tool that is on by default. I don't know what that does. Craig? I always turn it off.
ADT - Automatic Double Tracking. Gives a doubled voice effect. As to removing pops at the source, I have a Pauly pop filter. It's REALLY pricey, but it works much, much better than any other pop filter I've tried.
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gswitz
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/13 22:43:30
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StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen. I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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vanceen
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 00:16:58
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 00:21:59
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If someone told me RX4 had a setting to wash your dishes and clean your laundry, I would probably believe them
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 05:39:15
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Try running the vocal track through an high pass filter and sweep until you find the frequency at which the pop loses energy. It should be somewhere between 100 and 300 hz. When you find the perfect spot, slap on a multiband compressor with an extreme setting to take care of excess of energy in that frequency range. That should help tame the unwanted low end rumble.
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 07:51:31
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Anderton If someone told me RX4 had a setting to wash your dishes and clean your laundry, I would probably believe them
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 09:39:25
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Split each offending plosive into a separate audio clip. You can then apply a high-pass filter (non-destructively) to each of these plosive clips via Sonar's clip-based processing. The energy of a plosive is typically going to be below 100Hz. If you insert an FFT display, you'll see a large peak where the energy of the plosive is located.
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Anderton
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 09:44:16
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I prefer splitting just before the plosive and applying a fade in. That way you can dial in the exact amount of plosive you want.
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Jim Roseberry
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 11:08:12
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Anderton I prefer splitting just before the plosive and applying a fade in. That way you can dial in the exact amount of plosive you want.
That'll work too...  Got to love tools that are so flexible that there are multiple (good) solutions to a problem.
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 11:36:23
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Anderton I prefer splitting just before the plosive and applying a fade in. That way you can dial in the exact amount of plosive you want.
... and it's non-destructive - so if you edit fast and overdo at one point, you can easily back-off later ...
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Anderton
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 16:07:26
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 17:11:54
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I just hand trim from the left of the offending pop until the P is still there but is now more of a p.
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mettelus
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/14 18:57:42
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And when finished... send a copy of both the raw take/edited take to the singer and tell them "You need to work on your mic technique, as I spent [x amount of time] fixing this for you."
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/16 01:39:21
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Craig, Thanks for the tip on the Pauly. I will definitely get it. Always better to get one pricey thing that works that ten pieces of junk that end up costing the same.
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/16 01:58:28
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GregGraves
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Re: What are you using on vocal Pops?
2015/08/18 17:05:25
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Nero Wave Editor is freeware now, and it can zoom in and fix spots. Adobe Audition has a ridiculous purchase plan, but only mostly does what Syntrillium's Cool Edit Pro did which was only like $20 back in the day. Wavelab is cool, and should be for 5 bills.
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