Serious_Noize!
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What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little money?
Hello everyone, it's taken me some time, but I think I have a pretty good setup for somebody recording music for themselves. And I should mention once again : "I record music for MYSELF, NOT FOR MONEY OR PROFESSIONALLY". I'm no expert, not a pro. at any instrument that I play. Although I do try. That being said, here is the thing and my setup : I am using a TONEPORT KB37 to record with. I also use Windows 10. I was 3 months away from getting the free upgrade from POD FARM 1 "Which I have" to POD FARM 2 after Pod Farm come out, and that rather upset me because I bought the TONE PORT KB 37. Meaning LINE 6 DOES apparently NOT SUPPORT THEIR HARDWARE AS TIME GOES ON. Not to mention I purchased every package they had for POD FARM 1 except their BASS PACKAGE. Meaning I spent a TON OF MONEY and got told "PURCHASING THEIR HARDWARE DOES NOT ENTITLE YOU TO UPDATES ON THEIR SOFTWARE EVEN THOUGH YOU SPEND MONEY ON THEIR SOFTWARE PACKAGES". Just wanted to point that out, because I spent upwards buying the packages and the hardware of say 600 dollars or more considering my Toneport KB37 cost. Uhm, I was told I was 3 months too late for their free hardware Pod Farm 2 upgrade. A 3 month LIMIT that was really robbing people who are TIED to using the Line 6 Tone port KB 37, that is TIED to the device. If you are using POD FARM 1 that is. You know, I could understand a company NOT SUPPORTING software upgrades, but NOT SUPPORTING SOMEONE WHO PURCHASED THEIR HARDWARE AND THEIR SOFTWARE is really kind of ridiculous. OKAY, Sorry for the rambling and ranting. I'm sure some of you have similar stories. Here's my thing : I purchased the full TH3 Overloud Guitar software and the FULL Mark BASS 2 software from Overloud. They work great. THEY ARE GREAT!!!!!!!!!! No HARDWARE TIES like KB37!!!!!!! I want to make a change and get away from Line 6 altogether because of the issues I mention above. Any recommendations on a AUDIO INTERFACE to record with for around 150 to 200 dollars? I am done with LINE 6!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I would have just purchase their SOFTWARE, I could understand the UPGRADE ISSUE, but I not only purchased their packages for POD FARM 1, I also purchased their HARDWARE KB37 and was told I was 3 months too late for the free upgrade to POD FARM 2. That just isn't right. IN MY OPINION. Thoughts on a great recording interface for around 150 -200 dollars? Audio Input control and a HIGH Z option, along with 24/48 recording are a must. I'm looking at a Steinberg and Saffire Focurite model right now for around those prices. The extra software that comes with them means nothing to me, or that is I could care less about CUBASE!!!!!! CUBASE SUCKS in my opinion but their device does sound pretty solid for recording. As for the Focurite Saffire, I'm not sure........ Thoughts on this? Have another suggestion for around the price I am mentioning? Thanks in advance, Bobby
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 00:47:29
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So, the best deal right now, biggest bang for the buck, I feel is a used RME PCI 9632 or 9652. Both sell for around $200 on ebay and reverb. Can't beat the latency and quality of sound. Rme still makes these cards and builds drivers for them. :D:D
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 01:22:47
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☄ Helpfulby kitekrazy1 2017/06/17 16:23:56
eph221 So, the best deal right now, biggest bang for the buck, I feel is a used RME PCI 9632 or 9652. Both sell for around $200 on ebay and reverb. Can't beat the latency and quality of sound. Rme still makes these cards and builds drivers for them. :D:D
Sure, RME still supports the drivers. But the big disadvantage is PCI slots are all but obsolete. Newer systems with PCI slots are bridged, meaning the shared PCI bus is unsuitable for audio interfaces. I'd rather put that $200 towards a newer RME interface (or alternative) that will work on a new PC if I upgrade tomorrow.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 01:37:53
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My pci isn't bridged. I have a fireface 400 and am not happy with it. It was a steal at $440, but it's not working out. I'm going back to a 9632. But SN (the OP) find deals on older rme equipment, they seldom become obsolete. The AIO is $800 something (it's pcie) but you can get it cheaper. If your pci isn't bridged, go for the pci ones, they're dirt cheap.
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2017/06/17 01:40:14
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Of course there's the lynx L22. That's pcie I think. That's an older model that goes for around $200.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 04:25:11
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eph221 My pci isn't bridged. I have a fireface 400 and am not happy with it. It was a steal at $440, but it's not working out. I'm going back to a 9632. But SN (the OP) find deals on older rme equipment, they seldom become obsolete. The AIO is $800 something (it's pcie) but you can get it cheaper. If your pci isn't bridged, go for the pci ones, they're dirt cheap.
For non-bridged PCI, you're right. No doubt, older RME card is a great choice and bargain. My point was that the non-bridged PCI slots are rare on newer systems. If you have an older system, then you're fine. If you don't plan to upgrade for awhile, then you're fine. But you have to plan your system around the card and not the other way around. You decide to order a custom DAW built with the fastest i7... and you can't because no current board has a non-bridged PCI slot (that I'm aware of). Or, your motherboard dies -- again, no new system for you. You can, of course, build another system with 6 year old technology so you can keep the PCI card. For some users. not exactly ideal.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 08:12:11
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☄ Helpfulby Serious_Noize! 2017/06/17 21:03:35
These days even entry level interfaces sound pro. If you need no more than two inputs and have USB 3.0 slot on your computer I would go for ZOOM uac2. You will also be good with any entry level Scarlet, Tascam, Presonus and even Behringer.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 15:23:38
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At you price point there are some solid brands. Go to Sweetwater and mostly what you need to do is decide which "Features" you need. Most of the popular budget interfaces will perform the same. It's the features you need to shop for. Read my shopping list for some tips on what to look for. http://www.cactusmusic.ca/Recording.htm#AI Shopping List
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 16:31:12
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eph221 So, the best deal right now, biggest bang for the buck, I feel is a used RME PCI 9632 or 9652. Both sell for around $200 on ebay and reverb. Can't beat the latency and quality of sound. Rme still makes these cards and builds drivers for them. :D:D
Sure, RME still supports the drivers. But the big disadvantage is PCI slots are all but obsolete. Newer systems with PCI slots are bridged, meaning the shared PCI bus is unsuitable for audio interfaces. I'd rather put that $200 towards a newer RME interface (or alternative) that will work on a new PC if I upgrade tomorrow.
Agree. BTW I'm pretty sure Hammerfall PCIs are no longer manufactured. Before forking out money on a used card I would check the RME forums first. You take a risk that one may not work if the motherboard goes out. Even those under warranty are replaced with boards that have revisions. For under $200 there are a lot of choices. Focusrite are good units.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 21:05:18
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Afrodrum These days even entry level interfaces sound pro. If you need no more than two inputs and have USB 3.0 slot on your computer I would go for ZOOM uac2. You will also be good with any entry level Scarlet, Tascam, Presonus and even Behringer.
Thank you, that ZOOM uac2 is a little more than I plan to spend, but it sounds like what I am looking for. The USB 3.0 being used is something I was hoping for also, but it appears most of the devices out there currently for purchase for the most part are only supporting USB 2.0. Thanks again!
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/17 22:20:28
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eph221 So, the best deal right now, biggest bang for the buck, I feel is a used RME PCI 9632 or 9652. Both sell for around $200 on ebay and reverb. Can't beat the latency and quality of sound. Rme still makes these cards and builds drivers for them. :D:D
Sure, RME still supports the drivers. But the big disadvantage is PCI slots are all but obsolete. Newer systems with PCI slots are bridged, meaning the shared PCI bus is unsuitable for audio interfaces. I'd rather put that $200 towards a newer RME interface (or alternative) that will work on a new PC if I upgrade tomorrow.
They're still in production. The pci card with the digiface etc...is out of production. And regardless you can buy ne Agree. BTW I'm pretty sure Hammerfall PCIs are no longer manufactured. Before forking out money on a used card I would check the RME forums first. You take a risk that one may not work if the motherboard goes out. Even those under warranty are replaced with boards that have revisions. For under $200 there are a lot of choices. Focusrite are good units.
Agree. BTW I'm pretty sure Hammerfall PCIs are no longer manufactured. They're still in production. The pci card with the digiface etc...is out of production. And regardless you can buy new old stock on ebay. Everyone says buy new instead of old, I've seldom had problems with buying used tech. The only thing I've ever had die on me was a hard drive.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/18 01:57:12
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☼ Best Answerby Serious_Noize! 2017/06/18 13:13:20
Serious_Noize! The USB 3.0 being used is something I was hoping for also, but it appears most of the devices out there currently for purchase for the most part are only supporting USB 2.0.
Everything I've heard says there is no real advantage between USB 2.0 and USB 3.0 for audio interfaces. I would recommend the Focusrite Scarlett 2i4
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/18 17:57:25
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Another Focusrite 2i4 user here, I like it.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/19 01:18:26
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dude, buy the best you can afford. when you think you have enough, wait and save up twice as much, then pull the trigger.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/19 14:51:27
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As mentioned above, for $100-200 you can get a good interface - Focusrite, TASCAM etc. I'd be inclined to look at TASCAM since Gibson owns them and SONAR and I expect most of the SONAR people have TASCAM. It can't hurt. most of the hardware is basically sounds the same within the same price range - you just get more ins/outs. RME has, according to reputation long established, the best software and it is still tops in the "affordable" section. Most of the others are good, but you still run into incompatibilities on your computer and your unit, even tho it works fine on the other 1000 computers. I've even seen a few problems w/ RME over the last 10 years. Your best bet is to decide the price you can afford, go to a major retailer and check out specs and prices, find your best deal and order it. If it has a problem, you can send it back for option B. The sound won't be appreciably different between the two. They all use the same converters and there is only so many ways and components to make a $5 preamp (which sounds good - much better than the RAMSA pres in my 1980s $1000 console)
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/19 18:15:24
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I recommend an interface with separate headphone and monitor controls.
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2017/06/19 18:31:46
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I have the 1st Gen 6i6 and it's a great interface, I paid $230 brand new 3 years ago. $169 is not a bad price but I would not recommend that as it's now outdate tech. As I said,, you first need to list what features you want. It's a 2 way street. What works for me might not work for anyone else, we all require different connectivity and monitoring. People buy the wrong interface and then find themselves having to buy more gear to make up for the interfaces connectivity and monitoring shortcomings. Most important is connectivity for NOW and in the FUTURE. And +1 to Paul's recommendation. There is an example of a simple feature sadly missing from some interfaces. You buy an interface without that feature and next thing you know your having to buy a Mackie Big Knob to make up for this.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/19 23:33:12
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The focusrite interfaces are imo the best in that price range, but the ( used ) RME cards have better rtl latency. Another reason why focusrite is imo the best competitor in that price range is that you get via the plugin collective every months another plugin for free: I got the phoenix verb and several other first class plugins that way . The sound (in fact is has no "sound",I know)of the focusrite interfaces is awesome,means preamps,hi-z aso and the rtl latency is OK..
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Hello guys! I'm Michael a game lover. I'm new here and just joined this forum. I want to know more about that's why I join this forum. Can anyone tell me new technologies for PC gaming? Thank you!
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/23 06:14:04
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Hello and welcome, michael. I recommend to start a new thread cause your question is hidden except for the people accidentally reading this thread about interfaces. have a nice time enjoying this forum.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/23 10:30:03
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This is not a "gaming" forum. I suggest you look elsewhere for gaming sites.
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Re: What are your thoughts on an Audio Interface for someone on a budget, or has little mo
2017/06/23 14:49:38
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Yes, An audio interface is not something that benefits a game at all.
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