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2014/01/04 15:55:39 (permalink)

What do we think about this type of music?

Great? Inspiring? or Boring?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0TaH7WQHBw

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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 16:44:27 (permalink)
Like many other things, it depends on how it's used.

 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 16:59:41 (permalink)
I started skipping forward at 1:31. I guess that's my answer.
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 17:02:44 (permalink)
I suppose it is music to have on in the background, or maybe to meditate to.
 
Would this type of thing win awards or recognition, certainly the posts below the youtube vid are very complimentary.

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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 17:09:52 (permalink)
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I suppose it is music to have on in the background, or maybe to meditate to.
 
Would this type of thing win awards or recognition, certainly the posts below the youtube vid are very complimentary.




I didn't listen to the music long enough and neither am I expert enough to say either way if it is award worthy, but I would say that the average YT comment is probably nothing more than a reflection of the person who makes it if you know what I mean. ;)
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 17:10:45 (permalink)
If you're in the mood for it, it's wonderful. Same as any music really.

 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 19:55:52 (permalink)
This is in fact my kind of music, although this particular piece is a bit boring. It is using the unique abilities of computer generated music (sustain not dependent on how long you can blow into a tube or how long a plucked string will continue to vibrate without losing energy), effects that are not obtainable in the universe of string and wood, and a near total avoidance of pounding on dead animal hides. I personally have not given up entirely on melody however, I just find that repeating it a half dozen times in a short piece with no change is unimaginative.
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 20:59:16 (permalink)
It IS called "Ambient" for a reason and Eno has, what?, 50+ albums?  (I've got 16 from him.)  Plus he's been part of several other successful efforts usually helping with sound textures.
 
I clicked on that link above then went back to work.  It was almost an hour later before I realized it was still playing.  I like that.

 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 22:36:37 (permalink)
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If you're in the mood for it, it's wonderful. Same as any music really.


Quite true. This is mindset music, and would be wonderful to draw to. Most songs are far too short for that, and I would probably be in total immersion long after the casual listener got bored with it.

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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/04 23:04:11 (permalink)
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Great? Inspiring? or Boring?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0TaH7WQHBw


It can br any of the above depending upon situation one is listening to it in.  It would make for horrible music to dance or workout to but great for meditating or at a spa.
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 01:26:13 (permalink)
I just got off a rowdy and loud gig. For me it was soothing thru my Bose set up. I enjoyed it
 
 

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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 06:18:24 (permalink)
Roxy Music played a key importance in initially catapulting Brian Eno's career, not only as a performer but as a highly respected sound engineer and of course along with his art work.  
 
Thursday Morning, is cool apart from the low droning along with the very high-pitch sound (air and bow elements) that resonates throughout this track -- this particular element of the track is repetitive (overly drawn-out) although what saves Eno's butt are all the nuances he artfully weaves throughout.   
 
I guess more and more writers/musicians are delving into styles based on "Ambient" music but for example, with a fusion of Folk and dare I say; Hip-Hop, RnB and Pop yet more cleverly arranged with an ingenious sense of rhythm rather than heavily focused on 'beatz'. 
 
Anyone actually tried Eno? Apparently it's very smoothing and a relief:   


 
 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 09:08:14 (permalink)
Ahhh, 60-minutes???? Too much of spaceyness. Nothing wrong with it for what it is. I just don't know when I would devote 60-minutes to listening of this. Rather soothing though for 5-10-minutes.

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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 09:59:10 (permalink)
I think I would like to write pieces like this but with more variation, something that develops more over the 60 minutes.
 
I often hear people complain that pieces are too short, that a piece was just developing then ended.

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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 10:45:34 (permalink)
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It IS called "Ambient" for a reason and Eno has, what?, 50+ albums?  (I've got 16 from him.)  Plus he's been part of several other successful efforts usually helping with sound textures.
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Thank you.
 
I have over 20 of his albums including stuff with Cluster, Robert Fripp and then by himself. But regardless of what it is called, there is some really pretty stuff in all of it, regardless of where you look. It's just different music, and not subject to the rock'n'roll mentality that we think is music and everything else isn't.
 
(Haven't heard the YouTube piece yet. Can't get it here at work)
 
post edited by Moshkiae - 2014/01/05 10:46:46

As a wise Guy once stated from his holy chapala ... none of the hits, none of the time ... prevents you from becoming just another turkey in the middle of all the other turkeys! 
  
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 14:14:34 (permalink)
Heh, I've got the Cluster & Eno album as well as three Fripp & Eno albums too.  I'm sure I've got the U2, Talking Heads, Daivd Bowie, Devo, Depeche Mode and Bauhaus albums he's involved with as well.

 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 14:20:28 (permalink)
Boooooooring!
 
 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 14:27:48 (permalink)
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Boooooooring!
 


Not if you add mushrooms and some light goggles.
 

 
(I worked with the main engineer who built this and I've got some "special" goggles that have twice the power - heh...)

 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 15:08:30 (permalink)
Not my cuppa.
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 15:12:36 (permalink)
There's just so little movement to it. I was quite surprised to realize that as I clicked through it to get to something interesting that what I thought was 1 minute was actually an HOUR of the exact same thing. Even blasted on hallucinogens and getting visually hammered by some freaky video I think I'd still get bored.
 
Seems like musical extremism for the sake of extremism like some of the over top cookie monster metal that's out there these days (which I also find ridiculously boring) except in the opposite direction.
 
Give me some nice mid east sitar and tabla drones or simple nature sounds and I'd have a much better time.
 
Not to say Brian Eno isn't a talented fellow but this just strikes me as silly and artistically a little self indulgent.
 
Of course I am musically hyperactive and a spazz in general so that's JMO.
 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 15:13:39 (permalink)
Spazzez of the world unite!!!!
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 15:19:01 (permalink)
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 15:20:16 (permalink)
Looking forward to it Beeps.
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 15:38:29 (permalink)
The structure is just getting finished up (got one little turnaround I just finished and about to shoehorn in) then the real tracking will begin. I'm going to try employing some dialogue sampling instead of vocals via the Matrix thingy and dig into some of the wacky synth patches to really turn it into a loonfest.
 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 15:55:00 (permalink)
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Not if you add mushrooms and some light goggles.
 ...


Shhhhhh!!! You don't want to give away the "secret" to creativity! Even Dylan agreed with us way back when!
 
Actually, Beep, there is something rather mathematical in some of the things he does. He had one experiment that was done with an art show, and the pieces of music went like this. Track one 16 beats, Track 2 had 18 beats, Track 3 had 20 beats, and so on progressively (I'm not explaining this quite well, btw), and when these were started at the same time, after so many beats you had a mix of different things, and after the first minute nothing was the same again.
 
Yeah, from your perspective it might not be good, but if you don't try different things, and learn, how you gonna go further and better?
post edited by Moshkiae - 2014/01/05 15:56:13

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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 16:25:44 (permalink)
Hi, Pedro. My thing is if you are that talented then do something interesting. To do otherwise is kind of a slap in the face of whomever or whatever bestowed you with that gift.
 
However if he did it simply because he enjoyed it then that trumps all but at that point it's a personal thing and should be kept personal. Tossing it out into the public for consumption (especially if people are expected to pay for it) then it becomes fodder for the spazzy wolves such as myself to poo poo.
 
In a way though this could also be construed as punk because it is sooooo dull it's obnoxious.
 
I've been pondering this a lot lately as I try to figure out which direction I want to head musically and lyrically. I COULD go back into the snarky and politically charged lyrics again but as I step back and look at everything I've done and everything I could say and has already been said in the past 30-40 years no matter HOW uniquely I package and present it to me it would be boring. I may work more instrumentally or with samples for a few years or try out coy almost nonsensical lyrics instead that will make people deeply pontificate about what exactly I'm trying to get at... and it will be NOTHING. Absolutely nothing.
 
A musical joke. I've always tried to write my riffs to be like a set up and eventual punchline to a joke and my lyrics to be a build up and left turn to a smack with something too real or unreal to fully digest without some introspection. Now perhaps that I have the resources to write and record on my own I'll treat my own "career" in that manner with my retirement or death becoming the punchline.
 
Then again I probably think too much and nobody will really give a sh*t anyway so the joke will be on me.
 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 16:28:46 (permalink)
Oh and I find very few artists can write mathematically and remain interesting. Rush is one that comes to mind but do they write the math first? I don't know. I've never met them to ask. One day perhaps. I'm only a couple degrees of separation from those guys so it's possible.
 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 16:38:08 (permalink)
I'm an ADHD, Type B person and a dreamer.  That makes a difference.  While I like and can appreciate a lot of metal out there, I can only take it in small doses.

 
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 17:30:48 (permalink)
Yeah I've been into heavy music since I was 8 years old and a lot of the hyper aggressive new stuff doesn't retain my attention for long. No hooks, no interesting changups or melodies. Just blasting for the sake of blasting.
 
It's boring.
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Re: What do we think about this type of music? 2014/01/05 18:33:10 (permalink)
Of course, I don't live all that far away from Boring.
(It's a town in Oregon.  )

 
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