The Maillard Reaction
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What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
I've always figured it meant "compositing" but it occurs to me that it might mean "comparing" to some people.
After I dreamed that up it occurred to me that the ideal tool set for one might be a little different than an ideal tool set for the other.
So, I'm curious... what does the term "comping" mean to you when you are working on audio?
Thanks.
best regards,
mike
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 20:49:52
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SvenArne
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 20:52:46
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The same as it always has: Taking a bit from this take and another from that and generally making your musician feel like he's always prevailing throughout the track!
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 20:54:46
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pdlstl
The former, in my world.
SvenArne
The same as it always has: Taking a bit from this take and another from that and generally making your musician feel like he's always prevailing throughout the track!
What they say. What they say.
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 21:03:59
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I've always figured it meant "compositing"
It does..
But the workflow typical involves comparing one take to the others..
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 21:08:58
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I don't even like using straight X crossfade tools. I zoom right in there, slip edit to my zero-crossing, check both end start points soloed individually and then together, solo each again to select a curves and adjust the fades, listen back again to both and repeat as necessary. It's one of the few things I learned years ago and I think it makes a big difference. I asked a couple of my buddies about whether this method was better than a straight crossfade and they pretty much said "Yeah... but it takes forever". Well I'm not working in a studio with deadlines and whatnot so I take the time. I check every single clip in a project to make sure it's start and finish are smooth as possible and it reacts well with all the other tracks around it. That's a little broader in scope than what you are asking but it is also how I make composite tracks from takes as well. I do however try to just get a few takes where I play the intended part as spot on as possible so I don't have to comp anything. Sadly my hands don't really behave as well as they used to so that's getting harder with age... or maybe I'm just getting pickier about what I think is acceptable playing. Who knows. Friggen' musicians, eh? Bunch of looney tunes. ;-)
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 21:18:23
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Record thirty takes and slice and dice them to seven seconds of acceptableness and pray I didn't nudge a knob or fader in the process.
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 21:22:04
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Yeah, I'm pretty much like everyone else. Compositing. Layers were not so great for that, IMO. The new lanes seems to make it much better.
The only thing that annoys me is the tool tips on each lane. The + and X buttons have tooltips that read "+" and "X" respectively. No indication other than assuming you know that + means "add another lane" and X means "delete this lane". It'd be nice if +'s tooltip was "add new lane" and X's was "delete this lane".
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 21:25:28
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derFunkenstein
The only thing that annoys me is the tool tips on each lane. The + and X buttons have tooltips that read "+" and "X" respectively. No indication other than assuming you know that + means "add another lane" and X means "delete this lane". It'd be nice if +'s tooltip was "add new lane" and X's was "delete this lane".
You'll prolly learn that fast enough, won't you?
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 21:40:31
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 21:56:39
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SvenArne
derFunkenstein
The only thing that annoys me is the tool tips on each lane. The + and X buttons have tooltips that read "+" and "X" respectively. No indication other than assuming you know that + means "add another lane" and X means "delete this lane". It'd be nice if +'s tooltip was "add new lane" and X's was "delete this lane".
You'll prolly learn that fast enough, won't you?
indeed I did, just trying to think of the n00bz
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Michael Five
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/22 23:52:06
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☄ Helpful
compensating for my earlier miscues....
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 00:18:53
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snicker: Im sticking with Composting !! haha
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 00:34:21
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I was a musician first then I got into recording. I was quite confused about the recording term comping when I ran into here. To me it was more like the Wikipedia definition: Comping (an abbreviation of accompanying) is a term used in jazz music to describe the chords, rhythms, and countermelodies that keyboard players ( piano or organ) or guitar players use to support a jazz musician's improvised solo or melody lines. The term is also used for the action of accompanying, and for left hand part of a solo pianist. [2]
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 00:44:11
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im going to do something no one has and go out on a limb and possibly jeoperdize my level of professionality and say,i still have no idea what it means.
i have plenty other words to describe what your saying or this thing you call..."how do you say"-comp-in ?...com-pain..
com-pain in the buttocks.
i usualy call it making my client look like a hero.
or editing.
nice thread mike.
i can say those are things i like about your threads.i always find it interesting.
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 01:21:30
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Yes. You never know for sure how some expressions are used. We had an interesting, short debate two years ago
here when I noticed some forum members moved from the end of the project to the beginning, to the left, and said they're moving forward. And several native english speakers confirmed that's the way it should be: going back to the start is going forward!
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 02:48:30
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M_Glenn_M
Comping (an abbreviation of accompanying) is a term used in jazz music to describe the chords, rhythms, and countermelodies that keyboard players (piano or organ) or guitar players use to support a jazz musician's improvised solo or melody lines. The term is also used for the action of accompanying, and for left hand part of a solo pianist.[2]
I play jazz and that's a common term. I've never heard it used in the context suggested by others. The only other time I've heard it used is short for "complimentary" as in sometimes when you gig they might "comp" you a meal or drink - on the house you might say. Some use it as short for compressing as well.
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The Maillard Reaction
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 07:45:04
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Thank you to everyone for adding their perspective and comments to the thread.
best regards,
mike
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 08:07:01
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 08:17:26
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the c o m p ilation of multiple takes.... not?
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 08:39:44
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Noisy Neighbour
the c o m p ilation of multiple takes.... not?
+1 for me.
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 09:17:52
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Comping means two things. - DAW users and engineers usually mean composing a track of the best takes from several tracks.
- Musicians—especially jazz musicians—mean playing a non-lead part. In this case it is short for accompanying. You might tell a session player, "I need you to comp the verses."
My favorite meaning of "comping" is getting free stuff. When someone comps you, they give you complimentary admission or free food. 
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 09:47:54
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qlne
Record thirty takes and slice and dice them to seven seconds of acceptableness and pray I didn't nudge a knob or fader in the process.
+1 to this. Seems it always ends up this way...
The space you have will always be exceeded in direct proportion to the amount of stuff you have...Thornton's Postulate. Bushpianos
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 09:50:08
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Comping - A highly technical term used in the recording industry meaning, the art of polishing turds.
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Re:What does "comping" mean for SONAR users?
2012/09/23 10:52:03
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pdlstl
Comping - A highly technical term used in the recording industry meaning, the art of polishing turds.
+1.... .......And I thought that term was "mastering".
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