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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/02 02:18:09
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ORIGINAL: Russell.Whaley
I have a fear that the child of a P5-Sonar union would end up being some unwieldy colossus...that would be overly complex and unwieldy to use.
I view Sonar as already being that type of app  So at this point, I guess my opinion is, what's the big deal with bolting on a few more features? Let's face it, they've been "gold plating" the app for a number of years. But so does Microsoft and so does Adobe, so they're just following the trend. Maybe the next trend will be some lean, mean, easy-to-use sequencer which feeds into Sonar. Isn't that what "Sequel" is to Cubase? That would be interesting - an app which is totally designed around super-streamlined loading and operation, albeit with a very limited feature set - targeted at users who want to get ideas down when inspiration strikes. Project5 is supposed to be that, but without the total Sonar integration we've been talking about, it's at the same time an isolated solution.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/02 07:49:57
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I'm sooooooo sick of P5 deciding what colors to use for my patterns.......everthing else is quite grand....but come on....this is like such a simple thing...I think we can be trusted with such responsability....really! EB
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/02 11:50:16
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Noooo. I hate deciding my colors. Thats how sonar does it. I wish sonar decided for me.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/02 17:59:37
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I'm right about this......trust me
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/02 19:07:16
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ORIGINAL: EarthBound
I'm sooooooo sick of P5 deciding what colors to use for my patterns.......everthing else is quite grand....but come on....this is like such a simple thing...I think we can be trusted with such responsability....really! EB
That would be nice. It'd be one way of defining formatic sections. (Verse in shades of red and pink, chorus in shades of blue and green, bridge in yellow, intro/outro in orange... stuff like that)
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/02 19:17:34
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I like Sonar's flexible color schemes and think P5 would benefit greatly from it.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/02 19:51:22
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The colors are for organizing........It just is easier to keep house if get to choose my own colors.......
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/03 12:21:14
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ONE FEATURE NO OTHER DAW or "Live" TOOL has. Per-track MIDI LFO in the Track Inspector.
- generates selectable waveforms, with 2 user-defined slots for loading waveshapes.
- submixer for grouping / blending multiple MIDI LFO waveshapes together.
- routes to track automation, the arpeggiator, synth, effects, or to MIDI out.
- tempo sync / frequency switch.
- latch / unlatch switch.
- count parameter from 1 -16; infinite.
This idea is so mind-boggling brilliant I can't believe no one has called it out. ATTN: Cakewalk RE: Flatten Every Other Performance-oriented Sequencing Application Sirs, Please read user b rock's "Per-track MIDI LFO" suggestions.
Per-track MIDI LFO in the Track Inspector.
- generates selectable waveforms, with 2 user-defined slots for loading waveshapes.
- submixer for grouping / blending multiple MIDI LFO waveshapes together.
- routes to track automation, the arpeggiator, synth, effects, or to MIDI out.
- tempo sync / frequency switch.
- latch / unlatch switch.
- count parameter from 1 -16; infinite. Read it again. Something like this would turn P5 into a modular beast that would open up the application in ways most users hadn't even imagined. I certainly hadn't. Thank you for your time. -- Anyway, I agree with all the oft-repeted requests here.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/04 04:58:53
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Sirs,
Please read user b rock's "Per-track MIDI LFO" suggestions. Thanks for sharing the vision, Puffer. As for a little history: I did push this through as a request a few years back. Additionally, I had a telephone conversation with Jesse Jost about 18 months ago, and we discussed this at some length. He was pretty pumped up about the idea, but (unfortunately) left to work for Line6 shortly afterwards. At least the concept has been archived somewhere.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/25 10:33:34
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I'm adding to my list.  Cyclone improvements *Slice preview. You click on a slice in the editor and it plays the slice. *More sonic manipulation options in the slice inspector (beyond pitch, pan, gain). How about reverse, attack, decay? *Make pads touch sensitive (respond to midi velocity) Cyclone is a hidden gem imo. eric
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/25 15:39:31
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*Slice preview. You click on a slice in the editor and it plays the slice.
*More sonic manipulation options in the slice inspector (beyond pitch, pan, gain). How about reverse, attack, decay?
*Make pads touch sensitive (respond to midi velocity) Fxpansion's Guru. But it costs money of course.
I have authentic analog drum machine samples.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/25 16:44:58
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/25 16:48:51
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Slice preview. You click on a slice in the editor and it plays the slice  ,,,,well,,,,,like,,, there is ,,,,,,,a auto preview,,,,,,,,it's the little ,,,,,,,,,,,,,play button,,,,,,,,, next to pad 1,,,,,,,,, use the arrow keys,,,,,,to audition,,,,,,,,, Cyclone is a hidden gem imo. ,, after 4 years ,,,, i ,,,,still go to the cyclone ,,,,, for ,,,,well,,,,,ya know,,,, creative manuvers,,,,,,,,,,,
marcella And Remember,,,,One thing at a Time.....
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/27 11:35:06
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1.) Dual core once again. It's a must have.
2.) Better implementation of multi-out VSTi's--so you don't have to adjust levels for the outputs one at a time, switching the focus of the track every time. Kind of discourages one from even bothering w/ multi-out's.
3.) I would like the ability to double-click on a pattern in the arranger and have it open up in the editor. Unless I missed something, it's kind of annoying having to pick your pattern out of the drop down menu to get it up in the editor.
4.) In the piano roll, if you select multiple notes, and then try to drag them out longer/shorter, it will only drag one. Definitely have to get that fixed. What if you want to stretch out a whole chord?
Otherwise, I'm pretty happy so far. Pretty much everything that's great about Ableton Live without all the stupidity (i.e. Live still doesn't have groove quantize). Thanks, Cakewalk.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/27 12:59:19
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ORIGINAL: badbib
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??? does shortcircuit allow you to manipulate individual slices of acidized loops?
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/27 13:38:09
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With P5 available for the Sonar 7 users for $49 for the next few days, maybe there will be a ground swell of integration sentiment from the other side of the tracks.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/27 13:44:53
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3.) I would like the ability to double-click on a pattern in the arranger and have it open up in the editor. Unless I missed something, it's kind of annoying having to pick your pattern out of the drop down menu to get it up in the editor.
It does that. Just double click the pattern. It should open up the current pattern in the editor. But I have the editor always open. If you mean like Ableton Live as in the editor pops up.
4.) In the piano roll, if you select multiple notes, and then try to drag them out longer/shorter, it will only drag one. Definitely have to get that fixed. What if you want to stretch out a whole chord?
Length command
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/27 14:23:53
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3.) I would like the ability to double-click on a pattern in the arranger and have it open up in the editor. Unless I missed something, it's kind of annoying having to pick your pattern out of the drop down menu to get it up in the editor.
It does that. Just double click the pattern. It should open up the current pattern in the editor. But I have the editor always open. If you mean like Ableton Live as in the editor pops up.
4.) In the piano roll, if you select multiple notes, and then try to drag them out longer/shorter, it will only drag one. Definitely have to get that fixed. What if you want to stretch out a whole chord?
Length command
Wow, may bad. You're right about the double-clicking. My double-clicking skills have gone down the drain lately... One more thing to like about P5. The length command is definitely one way of doing it, and I thank you for the tip, but I still think dragging out multiple notes simultaneously would be really helpful. One less command dialog to deal with. Good to know the option is there, though. Thanks for the info. I am still learning P5.
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dham
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/11/27 16:08:32
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Yea length does get annoying sometimes. It would be nice. I was like you when I first started using project 5 though. I felt I wouldn't be able to live without dragging groups of notes. But now, it doesn't even matter anymore. Just like I was when I wanted to set all velocitys to one value. I was so used to using a pencil tool and dragging a line to set them all to zero(in Reason 3.0). Now I'd rather just use the command.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
2007/12/01 22:15:20
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A couple more things we could use:
1.) Audition with groove quantize. Right now, it's a pretty big game of trial and error.
This is kind of a dream, but I would like to see a better drum sampler. Perhaps some kind of sampler/synth based on the Expression Engine, integrated really tightly within P5. The sky is the limit. Cakewalk could include a light version with the sequencers, and offer a discounted price to the full version.
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RE: What features do you want in P5 now?
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