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What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking

I Know ..long title.  In any case.  Every now and then I find myself not using a feature or plugin that I actually like ..in theory. Sometimes it is procrastination.  Sometimes it is just being used to a certain workflow.  I post this because, in the past, i find either a situation/need or example by another user will motivate me to revisit.  Examples for me in the past included V-Vocal (It seemed to crash too much for me to bother prior to X3) and R-mix (I never bothered until I found myself stumped on a filtering issue). Every now and then Ii will go through the menus and look at the included plugs and think "I am probably missing out by not using this".  The first one that comes to mind for me is TH2 Producer.  I have nothing bad to say about it.  I tried it, thought it sounded good and then..a presets pack was given to us and I found the process very unintuitive and it just kind of made me not think about TH2. It was just too easy for me to grab one of my versions of previous Sonar included guitar apps like Guitar rig le 4, other third party plugs or guitar geared fx chains included in Sonar (Some of which include TH2 but that's kind of buried if you just drop in a preset and start playing).  Since I'm always looking for ways to minimize my third party plugins not included in Sonar, I have decided to start using it more.  Anyone else have similar experiences?   Also, I have always like the idea of Matrix but can never get myself to actually use it more than dinking around.
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    Guitarpima
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/26 21:59:50 (permalink)
    I really like my Les Paul Custom but I find myself playing a Cort guitar because it sounds as horrible as it plays. Really?

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/26 22:02:43 (permalink)
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    I really like my Les Paul Custom but I find myself playing a Cort guitar because it sounds as horrible as it plays. Really?


    Was that an attempt at sarcasm?
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/26 23:00:10 (permalink)
    Just trying to figure out what the point of the thread is. It is baffling.

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/26 23:49:10 (permalink)
    then ask instead of being a magical unicorn*
     
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/26 23:54:38 (permalink)
    I know the title was odd but i tried to explain it.  If it did not translate well you could have said so instead of making a pointless attempt at being a blessed child of god*
     
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 01:40:32 (permalink)
    The question was odd but interesting too. I don't think Guitarpima was trying to be annoying.
     
    I couldn't think of anything that would answer your question. I have used different plugins through the years but as to features none that I stopped using. I have used features only to test them out though and didn't used them again. I don't think that would count.  
     
    Because it is a very odd question I would expect odd answers. 

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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 01:58:52 (permalink)
    I acknowledged the question was odd and poorly worded, but I am also quite sure he was being a jerk about it.  if not , i apologize.
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 02:10:17 (permalink)
    I understand the sentiment. For me: I no longer use pro channel. I realised it was just another layer and I already had an adequate/superior group of vsts. I like prochannel but prefer my way of doing things.

    So, I bought a copy of X3 basic on Steam and haven't used producer in about 6 months.
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 05:49:48 (permalink)
    I like the sontitus FX.  esp the gate and compressor.  Very useful, clear interface and do exactly what they say on the tin.
     
    But I find I have to force myself to use them once I've been through the easily accessible PC modules first and not got the sound I wanted

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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 09:46:21 (permalink)
    Yea, it is a strange but interesting question.  I'm w/ Karyn, all these FX and yet the PC is mostly used.
     
    But it is important to know more features/toys than you will ever use regularly, which is at the heart of the "poorly worded question."  There are a lot of things I know I can do in SONAR that I haven't tried yet.  And often I'll work around rather than get out the (virtual) manual and find the supplied method.  But I am in a hurry.  And seldom do I find the time to go back and figure it out.  And next month, or year, I"m back and curse myself since I didn't work on doing the easy method.
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 10:48:47 (permalink)
    Horses for courses.

    Avoiding using my track templates makes me rethink a lot of things.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 11:18:00 (permalink)
    convenience is still king?

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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 11:40:44 (permalink)
    I understand the point of the question, and there's an easy answer for me: Addictive Drums. It's great, sounds wonderful, and is highly editable, but I use the Discrete Drums loop libraries because they're so well-recorded and it's sooo easy just to drop in an audio loop and start playing. That said...I plan to dig more into AD, and I expect that after a week I'll kick myself for not doing so sooner.

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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 11:51:59 (permalink)
    It is never my intention to be mean but I do like to poke humor. With a title like that, it was to easy. ;-)
     
    I think what your saying is as your ears become more in tune, your hear things more, and sometimes less, easily and realize how different things work in different situations. I should have said this earlier but nobody's perfect.

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 12:54:38 (permalink)
    Guitarpima
    but nobody's perfect.


    Speak for yourself!

    I swear! People who think they know it all really annoy those of us who do.

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 13:50:33 (permalink)
    Deleted.  I misread the question.  The OP was asking for things native to Sonar.
    post edited by konradh - 2014/10/27 22:03:34

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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 15:28:46 (permalink)
    Guitarpima
    It is never my intention to be mean but I do like to poke humor. With a title like that, it was to easy. ;-)
     
    I think what your saying is as your ears become more in tune, your hear things more, and sometimes less, easily and realize how different things work in different situations. I should have said this earlier but nobody's perfect.


    Jimminy Cricket in a bikini* ..I expect you to fix this not being perfect thing within the next hour ;)

    I knew when I posted it that the wording might cause confusion. My intent was to spur discussion about underused features. Someone did sum up part of it very succintly by proclaiming convenience is king. I don't touch many of the nomad plugs because I tend to go to pro channel first. Whenever I do use nomad plugs I like results. Maybe I should just make more templates and screensets with some of these features.
     
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 15:32:47 (permalink)
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    I understand the point of the question, and there's an easy answer for me: Addictive Drums. It's great, sounds wonderful, and is highly editable, but I use the Discrete Drums loop libraries because they're so well-recorded and it's sooo easy just to drop in an audio loop and start playing. That said...I plan to dig more into AD, and I expect that after a week I'll kick myself for not doing so sooner.

    craig, I have not used anything but geist for drums in months although I have nothing but good things to say about AD. Funny how that works. After reading your post I just found the right sound and feel for a project using AD. I think I'm going to watch the groove 3 vids for AD and really dig in.
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 15:45:23 (permalink)
    I find that more often than not, I tend to hang on to using techniques I had learned from who knows where from way back when, despite there being better newer ways of doing things.  It's just easier (and I am lazy).
     
    BUT, today is my BIRTHDAY, (55), and I have given a present to myself of ACTUALLY blocking out time to learn the new stuff, AND to - are you ready? - USE the new stuff.
     
    YUP, I'm a gunna dewit.
     
    I have had ProChannel cheerfully waiting for me to actually do something productive with it, since its birth, as I have always just loaded effects up into the FX bins.
     
    Well, TODAY, I'm going all in - I'm talking reading documentation, watching videos, and get this - PLAYING WITH IT.  (Plus, I bought some new effects that seem to work in PC, so that is also motivation)
     
    Wahoo! (I got either goose bumps, or liver spots, or maybe shingles - can't tell), but I'm doing it!
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 16:01:14 (permalink)
    I really like Z3ta+ 2 but I use it less and less now. Complete lack of updates and newer synths like Serum have been replacing it.
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 16:05:19 (permalink)
    Bob...have a truly happy birthday!!!! October babies unite!!!
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 16:48:44 (permalink)
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    but nobody's perfect.


    Speak for yourself!

    I swear! People who think they know it all really annoy those of us who do.



    If your going to quote out of context then make sure you at least understand what your talking about.

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 17:00:32 (permalink)
    Happy birthday!!

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 17:29:55 (permalink)
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    then ask instead of being a magical unicorn.




    It's called humor your abominable snowman.
    post edited by Guitarpima - 2014/10/27 18:34:12

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 18:05:06 (permalink)
    Guys, keep to the topic please.

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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 18:15:35 (permalink)
    i thought we had moved on and got back on topic, but apparently not
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 18:25:59 (permalink)
    Edit your post and then I'll do the same.

    Notation, the original DAW. Everything else is just rote. We are who we are and no more than another. Humans, you people are crazy.
     
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 18:29:59 (permalink)
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    Edit your post and then I'll do the same.


    I edited my posts even before your last comment but no big deal.  keep your posts as is. matters not to me since i have been called worse :) i took your response as rude, responded, etc and then i thought we were both past it. my apologies, yada, yada...  in any case, karyn is right. best to get back on topic. . 
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    Re: What features/Plugins In Sonar Do You Find Yourself Using Less Despite Liking 2014/10/27 18:56:00 (permalink)
    Ok, back on topic... I've got two tin cans and a very expensive string and when I yell into one of the cans I get a rattle. I mean the can is top notch and everything, but... it just isn't keeping up? What do you use?

    StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
    I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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