What happened to Project 5 Cakewalk?

Hi everyone,

Why has Cakewalk never released a new v3 version of Porject 5? They could have made so much money and a such great interface!

This software is a killer, I own both sonar 7 producer edition( which I find horrible to work with) and Project 5, I can create a very good tune extremely fast with Project5! While with Sonar......it takes ages, you spend more time playing with the gadgets than the actual creation.

Please Cakewalk team, explain why? Thank you.

In the mean time, I am working on a documentary project, I would like to sync the video while playing, I cannot find a single video VST out there, no idea why.

How can I use Project 5 as the host and sonar 7 producer edition as the slave via rewire? I can do the opposite without a problem but I don't want that.

Thanks for the help,


Ben

Hi AT,

Thanks for the reply,

I am very surprised no one on the net made a simple and easy video VST plugin.
About Sonar VS Project 5, I am not sure about the mixing, if you get nice plugins like ozone and other top compressors/effects, I think you can get a pretty nice mix in a very short amount of time.

I really hate the Sonar interface, I played with it tonight(producer 7 edition) one more time, and I have to say, it will never come out of the box again, too many buttons, I do not like the step sequencer, you load 1 single dxi and 3 left windows shows up making the full thing really complicated when at the end of the day, our job is just about making music :-)

With Project 5 I keep adding DXI, VST and effects, it is just becoming better and better each time. If you add all the Native instrument kore players, wow you get a fantastic interface. The only down point is the wave manipulation which is not in Project 5, that's sad.

If they were making a V3.0 ,I would buy it straight away, I have never liked a sequencer as much as this one.

Thanks,


Ben

Hi AT,

Yes this is actually a good point, the 64 bit engine is excellent and you can add multiple tracks together with no slow down. In order to compensate with Project 5, I keep freezing(the freezing option) the tracks when I have more than 20, I have a quad core 3.2 Ghz with 8 Gigs of ram with XP PRO 64Bit and never get any crash which is great.

The other good point you are making is that Sonar is excellent for people who have to record external instruments with of course the right hardwares attached to it, project 5 will not work well for this type of set up, not enough options, but if you are crazy about virtual synths and samples, I think Cakewalk is good enough.
I will send you a few tunes I have made with Project 5 via PM.

Nice chatting to you,


Ben

fangirl here . . . P5 changed my life !  Became music diva (in my mind) with P5 like no other DAW could have so quickly.

My personal view on this is that once the original creator of P5 left Cakewalk, no one knew what to do with it after that - there was no real vision for it. So it consequently became something that only got token attention and programming time between Sonar (and it's variants) updates; it was left to fester for too long and it would have required a huge amount of time and effort to really bring it up to date feature-wise - the decision to kill it and absorb some of it's features into Sonar was the easier choice. Not sure the absorption has been a total success though...

I loved P5 1.5 . Remember the cool box that v.1 came in? Version 2 was starting to get a bit complex- maybe it could be seen as diverting interest from Sonar.

I would love a 64bit, multi core supporting 1.5!!!

It's never going to happen alas...

I 100% agree P5 is some much easier to create songs with , I have Sonar Home Studio 7 XL and after using it before I got a hold of P5 I hated it .
When Blipp turned me on to P5 SHS7XL was history , I have created so many good tunes with my copy of Project 5 and I'm still happy with how it works .

CakeWalk in my opinon lost out by dropping P5 , I guess it was too good compaired to Sonar so they dropped it so they could sell their higher end Sonar products .
Who knows but I'm glad I purchased my copy before they disappeared .

Radio

Yeah - My primary use of P5 is like a "scratchpad". I can test out ideas in a fast way. I than can incorporate the outcome in Sonar X1, add the audio stuff etc. and do the final mixing in X1. In that way you use the specific power of each program. For me P5 is not a great program to do mixing and (for me a limited bit with my knowledge) mastering. At the other hand - X1 is a bit limited in editing MIDI. It is not easy to just click a loop and edit only that part, because you are always taken to the now-time and you have to search where the h**l the part was gone you want to edit. Very annoying...

So - the combination X1 and P5 is a very strong one.

Discussion is here
http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3245438
 
We can pretty much forget ever seeing a new version of P5.

P5 in so many ways was the Apple iPod of DAWS - but nobody knew how to market or what to do with it.  Maybe it was more like the BeOS of of DAWS.  It was so deceptively clean that it let me focus on the music w.o the interface getting in the way.  I hated it when CW dropped it, and it still influences my trust and faith in them.
 
It's sad that the trend is now toward the "kitchen sink" DAW that includes 5 zillon "features" and seems to suck the life out of productivity.  
 
 

P 5 runs better now on the machines I have today then what I had when I first started using P5 
It is also pretty nice that a lot of the plugs , synths and 3rd party gifts I got w X3 play nice with P5 ….
 
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Kenny
 
 

 It runs like crap on my i7 4790.  Maybe hyperthreading is the fault.

For me the big issue is memory.  You can't run Addictive Drums and NI Rickenbacker and Vintage Keys at the same time.  I tried jBridge, but it would lose the instruments I had loaded.

Not everyone.  I still have a couple of your songs on the playlist. 

yeah P5 was awesome.  i don't have it installed on my pc because it is a 32 bit program, and i quit using all 32 bit music software years ago.  i ended up going with a combination of Maschine & Sonar Platinum, but i am pretty sure that if Cakewalk put out an update to P5 (multi-core & 64 bit) i would use that in a heartbeat because Native Instruments has proven itself pretty lazy when it comes to Maschine development, still very clunky!  Too bad Cakewalk can't just outsource the coding work necessary to update P5 for today's modern PCs