BassDaddy
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/24 17:04:01
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I have been more inclined to get videos or an all access pass lately also. I got an all access pas so I could watch the Akai Advance keyboard videos since my midi board died. It's great to get that much info about a product before you buy it.
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Re: What have we become...
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☄ Helpfulby carl 2015/09/25 10:49:20
I'm not sure what the problem is. If you need it and you have the funds, buy it. If you need it and don't have the funds, either save up or forget about it/look for a free alternative. I like to think we're all adults here with something resembling self control!
I get a ton of these offer emails every day and I don't feel the urge to buy anything I don't need. I'm happy to get them though, because they keep me up to date with new products and if I ever need something that's on sale, I'm glad of the discount. I think most people here already have a ton of stuff to be getting along with, but what you're forgetting is that these sales are a godsend to people who are just starting out and who want to build up a collection of basic mixing tools.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/24 17:53:27
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have you enough to make / mix / master a tune ? if the answer is yes.. then focus on that. I really have to justify buying something now.. that includes DAW updates, which I have a 3 + reason. try a different tact.. only buy something new IF you are making money out of what you made.. thats how it used to work back in the 90's or whatever. as for "bait n switch" tactics... well my biggest time for buying now is xmas.. and if I suspect is company is gonna do mercenary discounts, then i'll play em at poker also.. devaluing products products quicky is a sure way to "annoy" existing customers.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/24 20:23:49
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A $700+ fuel pump replacement changed my spending habits. Plus things like eggs and bacon went up as well. I still have 4 systems that started out as two DAWs, then an everyday system and of course a HT/Gaming/DAW. I was going to upgrade all of them which meant replacing everything but the drives and video cards. 2 I upgraded and decided that the other two when they die they are not going to be replaced. They all have pro audio cards. So it's like having 4 DAWs. My best investment was getting a Mac Pro video account at $15 a month. Sometimes if you have too much, you accidentally buy another copy of something. I rarely download free stuff. There is no such thing as a no brainer except for the fuel pump. Between Waves, IK, and Melda, I have more effects than I'll ever use. I guess the real insanity is those who use Reason and buy those rack extensions. They've soaked a lot of money into their DAW.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/25 10:07:50
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uh Blue II is really good. next to Omnisphere Blue II is my next favotie soft synth. great features. sorry, you gotta have one thing on the list. LOL
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/26 18:16:37
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I religiously updated Sonar, mostly because of some software they included like Melodyne or Dim Pro. I have haven't been very happy with the Sonar side for a long time now. 8.5 was my most productive phase. (I work a lot with MIDI). Since 8.5 it has been a constant battle against their changes.... Obviously you have to upgrade with ths newer PC formats at some point. I have pushed back greatly on buying plugins and software, mostly because I end up not using what I already have. Eventually you are forced to uprade some things when support stops. On the upside, I rarely buy anything that isn't heavily discounted. I've been burned too many times by software companies. That being said, Scuffham, Orangetree, and Vallhalla Reverb are run by decent people and I would never pay anything less than full price for their products. I am almost embarrassed at times by the amount of tools I have at my disposal nowadays . I think back to the beginning when my effects were 3 DOD stomp pedals for guitar. I recorded on a Tascam 4 Track through an SM58 mic...a Casio CZ101, a little Yamaha RX7 drum machine and a Yamah Sequencer....it took forever and sounded pretty sad at best. Now I can slap an entire song together in one or two days that sounds like it was done in a pro studio. I swear sometimes I just buy new software hoping it will inspire me to come up with new songs. I'm not sure if that's good or bad....
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/26 18:34:33
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To show how disciplined I've gotten I want the Waves SSL 400 collection so bad but I'm not going to bite. I passed it up twice now. I'm shaky though.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/26 18:45:15
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Oooh the money spent on stuffs... If I got a dollar for every new piece of software I have bought, I'm sure I'd be a millionaire by now! I sat down almost two years ago and ended all my subscriptions to newsletters from software companies and roughly at the same time I found a new hobby to spend burning money on: Collecting Fountain Pens and inks That really slowed the spending on new plugins to a halt! Now I usually just spend money to update whatever I have kept if new versions come out. I also moved over to Mac and Logic and needed to rebuilt the system and change quite a few habits. One thing I did was to sell off almost all of my NI licenses and purchased Komplete 10 and Maschine. With the change, my plugin lists got really short and now I remember to use what I have rather than spending time hunting for new plugins to do something I am already equipped for. So I am falling in love again with old gear and discovering new and super fast possibilities that I have overseen previously. However, this forum, the Software section, is probably the best news bulletin in the world for software news and I check in here a few times a month now to see what's moving. My spending on software have probably decreased by 95% the past two years - and I am being more productive than ever! But thanks to everyone who keeps this place updated and current - it's a PERFECT place to check in with what's going on without the propaganda.
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Fleer
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/29 00:27:04
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This kind of thread is why I love the CW forum, even though the only CW plugin I have is Z3ta+2. You guys are philosophers of the human mind. And the consumer mind. All of us, we're just trying to limit our stuff to what we really need to make inspiring music. Still got to get that Omnisphere 2, though ...
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/29 03:03:17
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☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2015/09/29 14:49:37
Fleer This kind of thread is why I love the CW forum, even though the only CW plugin I have is Z3ta+2. You guys are philosophers of the human mind. And the consumer mind. All of us, we're just trying to limit our stuff to what we really need to make inspiring music. Still got to get that Omnisphere 2, though ...
You nailed it, Fleer... as to O2... if I had to choose one item in my insane collection of "stuff"... it would be Omnisphere2, with a healthy dose of Skippy's recent offerings as he knows the instrument so deeply and spends the time to create the magic, collaborating with similar deep users... Indeed, it is so overwhelmingly awesome as a creative/complete tool, I would give up most everything in my arsenal... much of it... for just O2...if i had to... O2 is that versitile, powerful, useful, accessable, and stimulative in both a creative and construction sense. Postpone all your urges till you have O2... then buy Airwave... and we won't see you round here for awhile! You'll fly like never before...
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sharke
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/29 14:18:54
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ProjectM I sat down almost two years ago and ended all my subscriptions to newsletters from software companies and roughly at the same time I found a new hobby to spend burning money on: Collecting Fountain Pens and inks
What's your motive for collecting fountain pens, is it collecting as a hobby in itself, or do you specifically look for older pens on the theory that they're better? I'm a fan of dippy nibs and India ink, but have found no reason as of yet to progress past the cheapo Speedball nibs. Now paper is another story...
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/29 14:35:44
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One of my best buds used to collect pens...don't know if he still does. But the reasons were about the same as anyone collecting anything. He likes pens. And he likes collecting.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/29 15:23:35
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I don't collect sh*t. My late wife collected sh*t, so my house is full of it. All that sh*t, in turn, maintains its own sub-collection: dust. Dust is annoying, therefore useless sh*t is annoying. Collections just end up being stuff your heirs will someday dump at a garage sale for pennies on the dollar. OTOH, the stuff I do collect sits on my disk drive and my heirs won't even be able to sell it. I can't picture my grandkids going through my stuff and exclaiming "look! a copy of Cinematic Guitars!".
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 00:33:47
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You know as totally insane as it sounds it would not surprise me one bit if someday in the not too distant future kids were scouring junk heaps for old computers with floppy disks so they could run "vintage" 1rst edition midi and audio programs and video games. And if your hard drive was larger than 10 or 20 MEGABYTES you'd be considered an outcast.
Of course I also once predicted that teens would one day shave part of their full heads of hair in order to adopt and flaunt a "comb over". It could happen.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 09:16:13
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Yet another email from Spitfire arrived today: "last ever chance to own Albion...last 24 hours then it's gone!". I have been strong for two weeks, only need to hang on to my resolve for another 24 hours. I do not need this...I do not need this...
All else is in doubt, so this is the truth I cling to. My Stuff
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Fleer
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 09:48:16
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The new Albion One will put the memory of Albion 1 behind us!
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MachineClaw
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 10:54:22
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yorolpal You know as totally insane as it sounds it would not surprise me one bit if someday in the not too distant future kids were scouring junk heaps for old computers with floppy disks so they could run "vintage" 1rst edition midi and audio programs and video games. And if your hard drive was larger than 10 or 20 MEGABYTES you'd be considered an outcast.
Of course I also once predicted that teens would one day shave part of their full heads of hair in order to adopt and flaunt a "comb over". It could happen.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 13:35:37
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Yep, sure know what it feels like to tough out some of these deals . It feels like I'm sitting on the bench warming it while the ball is in play out on the field . Kenny
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MachineClaw
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 13:48:44
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UA has an Apollo USB3 coming out....for PC!!!!.<<drewl>> all those 3rd party UA plugins...oh....my. End of October release date. oh.......my......only...only $899. only. oh my. and those Seymour Duncan pickups I was looking at. and ....... hardware is a bit easier to resist as impulse buys. but all those software upgrades and offers..... Batter up!!!! LOL.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 14:17:46
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I'm slowly realizing that if it gets the job done then stick with it instead of continually feeling I "need" another purchase to make it better. I of course do continue to acquire things, but I think about it more now. As I mentioned in another post, I tried mixing through a single $30 Bluetooth speaker several months ago just for the heck of it, and I was very happy with the process and the results. That was a big wake up call for me. I'd say that experience alone has been as valuable as any gear I've ever purchased. It reminded me of when I started messing with all this stuff in high school back in the late 80's. I did everything on a pair of Roland MA12C desktop monitors and MIDI and cassette recording. When I listen back to that stuff now, it sounds pretty good, especially considering what I didn't know. So where I'm at now is a good place, and it's good to hear myself say that.
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JohnKenn
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 21:50:33
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Guys, Don't want to derail my thread, and had thought that no one would reply. So much wisdom however shared. Perspectives that tell me I'm no too far off the wall and others trending in the same direction. About the pen collection... I got too many pens, and have no idea how they got here. Don't have a clue as how or when they slipped into my pocket. Inspired me to however locate my two favorite pens. One is disturbingly missing in action. Initiated a holy Jihad to find where it is. Found the "Affordable Burial and Cremation " pen. What is missing is my favorite, "Cyclic Vomiting Syndrome Association" pen. Based somewhere in Wisconsin. If I can't find it, will ask them for a replacement. Not an evil person, but just end up with every pen in my pocket going home from work. Some inspiring artifacts from banks and drug reps. Years ago, hired on with Rite Aid Pharmacy and was given the pre hire questionnaire to see if I was of the moral calibre to work at a Rite Aid. Was warned ahead about the company pen question. Answer it wrong and you are terminated before you start. Question had 3 choices... You have slammed down a 12 hour shift. You are sick and have just fought against one and a half hour rush hour nightmare getting home. You have to show up at 7 the next morning. Pulling into your driveway and about to collapse, you look down and see that a Rite Aid company pen is in your pocket. What do you do? One choce is that the company will never miss it and it is yours. Don't want to fill in that dot. Second choice is to show up the next morning and return the pen on your shift. Third choice is to go back, battle the rush hour traffic and return the pen. Go back home at some insane hour and show up for your 7 am shift. If you answered anything but the third option, you were ineligible for hire. Got through the morality test and lasted there for a couple wretched years before quitting. John
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Fleer
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Re: What have we become...
2015/09/30 22:36:42
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/10/01 10:54:25
Never go back, John, never go back.
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Re: What have we become...
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/10/01 10:54:26
Rite Aid must have really good pens.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/10/01 10:22:56
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there are no Rite Aid pens on ebay.com not one. wooo weird.
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ProjectM
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Re: What have we become...
2015/10/02 09:41:24
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sharke
ProjectM I sat down almost two years ago and ended all my subscriptions to newsletters from software companies and roughly at the same time I found a new hobby to spend burning money on: Collecting Fountain Pens and inks
What's your motive for collecting fountain pens, is it collecting as a hobby in itself, or do you specifically look for older pens on the theory that they're better?
I'm a fan of dippy nibs and India ink, but have found no reason as of yet to progress past the cheapo Speedball nibs. Now paper is another story...
He he, I just like writing with them. I don't really care where they are from or how old they are. I usually just get new ones. But from liking to write with them I learned to apreciate the aestethics of them as well and ended up collecting them. I have som vintage as well that I got from eBay. And of course the inks with all their different properties that is different from pen to pen, from paper to paper, makes everything awesome. I have always written a lot by hand and this is something that have interested me since I was a kid. Writing is my Zen and using a fountain pen I slow down my mind as well ;) Dip pens never really worked for me since I am left handed, but I have been playing around with that a little bit too. Wish I could use them because it looks pretty amazing what you can do with them!
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Re: What have we become...
2015/10/02 10:27:01
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yorolpal You know as totally insane as it sounds it would not surprise me one bit if someday in the not too distant future kids were scouring junk heaps for old computers with floppy disks so they could run "vintage" 1rst edition midi and audio programs and video games. And if your hard drive was larger than 10 or 20 MEGABYTES you'd be considered an outcast.
Of course I also once predicted that teens would one day shave part of their full heads of hair in order to adopt and flaunt a "comb over". It could happen.
This actually happens right now! Well, sort of I suppose. There's a whole scene here in Oslo using commodore 64s and stuff to make music. Some use old Atari machines and old school sequencers with chips that make beeping sounds as sound generators. I have also seem people using old SoundBlaster soundcards where they mess with the soundfonts in them to design new sounds, triggered from old software like ProAudio 8, Fruity Loops and other obscure MIDI sequencers and such. The more inovative people use modern software to mix and do other things, but the hardcore ones do everything in these old boxes. It's really annoying to listen to, but very cool too ;)
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Re: What have we become...
2015/10/03 23:42:11
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How did this thread turn from instruments and VSTs to pens? Anyway...I found that I just have way more VSTs than I really need. Some of my VSTs I just don't use - some I've never used other than just initially checking them out. And I have enough physical instruments as well. Even too many guitars, which I haven't bought any more of for 10 years now. I'm on my 13th piano and/or keyboard of some type. I was about to consider the Nomad Factory - BlueTubes bundle for $89 recently but thankfully stopped myself right there. Plus I had another purchase lined up as well, that I decided against at the same time. In fact I had enough VSTs over a year ago, and could have stopped then. Especially now that just a few months later, I find myself in a position where I have 'zero income' whatsoever. So my GAS has been previously tempting, activated, experienced, exhausted and now retired. So what have I become? Well I was once a GASaholic. Now I'm an ex-GASaholic. Ah...it's like a breath of fresh air - like completing a 12 step program.
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lawajava
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Re: What have we become...
2015/10/04 00:25:51
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I was cured of GAS this week. Insolvent as well.
Then Vastman comes through and trumpets Spitfire's Albion. I resisted with a brick wall. Until I crumbled. Now I have Albion, a totally unplanned acquisition. Appears to be justified, but man....
I have no GAS left in me. I'm gasping for a break from offers. I'm not even going to look at offers until Black Friday.
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Re: What have we become...
2015/10/04 10:13:13
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MachineClaw I have a wish list excel spreadsheet document. if it's on the list and on sale then I might consider buying it. the list has gotten very short, not much new has been added to the list. now sometimes even on sale I just don't pull the trigger.
I keep a list as well. Most things never make the top. A few years ago I started giving myself an annual budget to cover my music related hardware and software purchases. I xfer the $$ from savings to another account on my birthday each year. That's all I spend on music stuff for the year. Period. One exception I have rationalized for myself is PC hardware. My audio interface comes from the above budget when needed, but the main machine does duty beyond DAW stuff. I do keep these running as long as possible between machines. This machine is on year 4. The prior machine, an XP box, made it 6 or 7 years. This has worked for me for the last few years, forcing me to think about what I want most, making choices along the way. The "Last Chance" sellers are getting more and more of my angst. The odds that this is my last chance to buy X are no greater than than the odds that Jill Wagner will come home with me if I buy that new Lincoln ;)
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Re: What have we become...
2015/10/04 10:34:17
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Jill Wagner would probably have a higher upkeep cost than that Lincoln or your computer.
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