tvolhein
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What is a good mic position for banjo
This would be a banjo and vocal, recorded at the same time (old time music). My room is small and dead. The mics are Rodes NT5's. Thanks, Tom
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Re:What is a good mic position for banjo
2013/04/12 10:11:39
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I think Mike may have missed the part about banjo and vocals at the same time. Do you want to capture these things separately onto two tracks or are you thinking of a stereo mic thing capturing the banjo and vocals at the same time?
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Re:What is a good mic position for banjo
2013/04/12 10:33:01
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Love the video Mike. Certainly would save a lot of mixing time.
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Re:What is a good mic position for banjo
2013/04/12 10:45:52
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Those videos are very useful. If you were just using say an X/Y pair on a bracket etc it could just come down to the height of the mics. Little higher to get the vocal more or lower for the banjo. That is if you were closer in. Do some test recordings. If you miked it further away as Mike suggests it would be up to the vocals to match the sound of the banjo. The banjo can be quite loud. This might sound silly but you could try an X/Y thing tipped 90 degrees. So one mic is pointing slightly upward toward the voice and the other a little downward to the banjo. You would end up with the two things being just a little left and right of centre in the end. Could be good.
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Re:What is a good mic position for banjo
2013/04/13 09:22:01
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Jeff Evans I think Mike may have missed the part about banjo and vocals at the same time. Do you want to capture these things separately onto two tracks or are you thinking of a stereo mic thing capturing the banjo and vocals at the same time? I am thinking of an x/y mic thing and have to record the banjo and vocal at the same time. The artist is a singer/songwriter who insists on singing and playing at the same time. He is singing into an SM7, the x/y is two Rodes NT5's. Tom
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Re:What is a good mic position for banjo
2013/04/13 16:40:58
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Just be mindful of the fact that if you close mic the vocal with the SM7 and you mic the banjo from a distance as Mike suggests (and that would be nice for the banjo) then the vocals are going to be in the banjo mics as well as the vocal mic. The integrity of the vocal sound may be compromised because the vocals that are in the banjo mics may not add well to the close mic vocal sound. (It may be OK too) For better separation of the two the banjo mics may have to come closer to the banjo and point down (towards the bottom part of the drum head under the players hand) away from the vocals a bit too. I am not sure you need two mics either to record the banjo. There may not be a lot of stereo going on there although a X/Y setup may give you some slight stereo image. (further away it is yes but as you get closer perhaps less.) Test recordings are going to help you find out the best positions for the banjo mics. They do help to eliminate the uncertainty. I quite like the way they have done things on those videos to pick up vocals and banjo at the same time. Like I said before I would try an X/Y near coincident setup turned sideways with one of the mics pointing upward toward the vocals and the other pointing down to the banjo. Again test recordings of this would determine if it is suitable. Otherwise go back to the vocal mic banjo mic idea. I have recorded banjo quite close pointing down towards the area below the players hand and got excellent results. But I must admit there was a lot of other stuff going on and the clacking of the picks etc was not audible. It might be different in just a vocal/banjo recording. I am sure between the excellent suggestions Mike has made and some of my ideas you will get a decent result.
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Re:What is a good mic position for banjo
2013/04/14 08:10:39
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Thanks to all for the suggestions. I think that I am going to do the x/y along with the SM7 (three tracks all together), and in addition close mic the vocal. That is where I will start. Tom
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