What is default location for 'Audio Library' files?

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2015/02/28 14:10:59 (permalink)

What is default location for 'Audio Library' files?

I'm going through the update process this weekend. The 'installer' put the HardGroove's Bass Loops (HBL) in the 'wrong' Cakewalk Content subfolder. The installer doesn't show/ask for a default/browse location and dropped them in an odd location. I'm guessing there's some registry entry involved here. There is no folder pref for the Cakewalk Content master dir itself, so most items get their own subfolder. The installer picked the 'E:/Cakewalk Content/' dir and then one of my dir's in it for individual installations. It then created a new 'Audio Library' folder and put the loops in it. Unfortunately, it didn't pick the current CContent install dir that I would have liked it to use. 
 
The browser item 'Loops' does get an update so the actual install location gets used which is how I stumbled upon where the files were actually getting located. The browsers 'Sample Content' item doesn't even appear to have a destination anymore or a way to set/delete it. 
 
Just some basic .ini files would seem to make all my troubles go away. At least, installers should have default location options. The folder preferences seems to be missing some items as well. Particularly, if 'content' (old sample loop libs, etc) are being considered as products.
 
I run multiple installs with individual folders under the CContent. The installer created the Audio Lib in the CContent folder for an X1_64 installation. It didn't use the 'Sonar Pro64' dir in the CContent dir as I would have liked.
How do I specify where the Audio Library gets created? 
 
I did notice that it did update my Rapture with Hardcore's stuff as well. I'd expected issues there, since its a standalone 32b version. I haven't had time to do another round of instrument re-installs for all the 64b VSTis . I'm pretty sure DP,Rap,Z3/2, etc did have a 64b install option but that's for yet another weekend. I'm not having bridge issues, so I'm not fixing that yet.
 
 
 
 
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    Re: What is default location for 'Audio Library' files? 2015/02/28 15:26:36 (permalink)
    How do I point to the 'current' working Cakewalk Content data dir for a feature install/update?
     
    I finished the Help/Tutorial DL/Upate. It pretty much did the same thing, but differently. The installer arbitrarily jumped into its install and blindly began depositing files for the update in my 'E:/Cakewalk Content' and children. Watching the installer, it did show where files were getting sent (though usually with an abbreviated path). It used the same parent as for the AudioLib install. But this time, it chose one of 2 subdirs with content files and put them there. If I hadn't been watching, I wouldn't know where the updated tutorial files went.
     
    Maybe some wild card search for other Content dirs is being made, but something is pointing these installers at the Content dir on my external drive (which is good), but not the subdir in the Content dir for that install. No, choices available either. Even sorting out what is being installed, much less where is difficult. Granted, the idea is to make all this seamless and transparent to the user is the goal. However, the installer is making some very bad choices and needs help. 
     
    And, of course, it is NOT where I would like them. Now I'm having to wonder if I can just 'move' them, but am quite wary about this as there seem to be a lot of 'hidden' links/pointers/etc that would probably get broken. Plus, future updates/un-install, etc would all fail as well.
     
    I'm even ready to use a single Content dir at this point, but expect trouble sharing between an X1-Studio_32b and the 'formal' SPro64 bit installs and have tried to keep them separate. At least the registry entries for the pref folders for X1 and SPro appear to remain separate. I'd like to keep a 32b install (if X1 then so be it) since most all of my instruments/FX are 32b and I don't need to bridge them. 
     
    It sure would be nice if these installers generated log files about what registry entries they use for defaults and what files get manipulated (with full path names).
     
     
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    Re: What is default location for 'Audio Library' files? 2015/02/28 16:37:30 (permalink)
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    Now I'm having to wonder if I can just 'move' them, but am quite wary about this as there seem to be a lot of 'hidden' links/pointers/etc that would probably get broken. Plus, future updates/un-install, etc would all fail as well.



    The loops don't require any special pointers. They're just audio files, and you can just drag them to whatever folder you use for content. Or you can just leave them anywhere, and make them an item in the browser's drop-down menu.
     
    I have folders all over the place for my own samples, so I can leave the Cakewalk ones as is...this gives me an idea of what "normal" users see. I have them all as locations that are accessed from the browser's drop-down menu.

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    Re: What is default location for 'Audio Library' files? 2015/03/02 13:30:28 (permalink)
    Ok, I guess. I re-org/locate them once they get unpacked anyway. The question is more as to 'WHERE' and how they get located. I only have Pro so don't get earlier CW audio stuff anymore and thus am using the X1 stuff (which is the same). I just don't want some installer overwriting an existing dir/files with existing Audio Library files in it. It did create this 'new' ALib dir in an existing path (though not the one for vanilla SPro and it did take a while to find the new files as well.
     
    A little more light on where things are destined and, better yet, options with the installers would be real helpful. Even a log file to sort out what did happen would be nice. Particularly if any 'issues' showed up. I was actually surprised that the Rapture stuff did get setup automagically to an external (non-C3) installation. My SPro doesn't include Rapture, Dim, etc but it updated Rapture-32 anyway. That's kind of good (and bad as well since I wasn't expecting it). I'm just getting started thinking about the the 64b VSTi installs/updates. As I recall those installs tend to overwrite existing additions, banks, patches, etc. since they de-install first.
     
    I'm all for ease of installation, but guessing what happened afterwards is a bad model for updates. 
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    Re: What is default location for 'Audio Library' files? 2015/03/02 19:28:33 (permalink)
    I've requested a list of what-gets-put-where, although Kylotan did a very good job of explaining this in one of his posts.

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