What is my room telling me?

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2012/06/17 22:27:51 (permalink)

What is my room telling me?

Just moved my gear to a new room and trying to get used to the sound in there. I have songs which sound good on most play back equipment but in my new room I can hardly hear the bass. Using KRK speakers. What in the room is dulling the bass so much? It's wooden paneled walls and the ceiling is also wood and also the floor.
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    Re:What is my room telling me? 2012/06/18 00:03:56 (permalink)
    Buy IK Multimedia's program ARC.

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    Re:What is my room telling me? 2012/06/18 04:12:59 (permalink)
    You're probably sat in a deep null where the reflections for the bass are cancelling each other out at your listening position.

    Sounds lie it's time to invest in some sound treatment strategies. Be prepared for a LOT of testing & measurement, and you will have to shell out for materials.

    Then you can use ARC for final tweaking

    If your funds can stretch to it, get ARC first and run it on your untreated room before you start treating it. Then you can see how much effect your treatment is having as you treat different areas.

    Start off with the mirror points, back wall behind the monitors, all corners and ceiling.

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    Re:What is my room telling me? 2012/06/18 04:42:53 (permalink)
    I would start moving my monitors around until I found a nice position for them. If needed move your desk to get it in the right place. It also sounds as if you have a very "live" room. A little damping may prove useful. Put a rug on the floor on the walls too if its still too live.

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    Re:What is my room telling me? 2012/06/18 09:28:06 (permalink)
    +1 for John's advice. Walk around the room while playing back familiar material. You will find that the bass comes and goes as you move. Speaker positioning is the all-important first step, before acoustic treatments and certainly before investing in "room correction" software.


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    Re:What is my room telling me? 2012/06/18 10:18:43 (permalink)
    +1 to above,
    if you find you are in need of additional help, checkout the KRK Ergo for room compensation..its hardware so operates outside of Sonar and the sequencer is blissfully unaware that room correction is going on.

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    Re:What is my room telling me? 2012/06/18 10:49:41 (permalink)
    In addition to all the the  good street-wise advice above:
    I believe that if anyone with knowledge about acoustis wanted to give you any detailed info you should offer the basic info too.
    What are the measurements of the room? What is under the wooden panels - wool, bricks, concrete? Where in the room are the loudspeakers positioned? Do you have several usable options for positioning them, or are you (approximately) stuck with the present place (doors, windows, ventilation pipes etc. may limit ones options)? Which KRK model are you using? There's quite a difference between Rokit 5 an RP 10-3. Are you using a sub?

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    Re:What is my room telling me? 2012/06/18 19:38:24 (permalink)
    KRK's do not have a low enough frequency responce for you to hear bass the right way without using a sub and the lack of acoutic treatment is whats wreong with your new room.

    1. Measure the frquency responce of the room with a calibrated mic
    2. Hang acoutic panels
    3. Measure again and look at the difference of results
    4. Move things around and make sure your monitors are 4 feet off the back wall
    5. measure again and keep doing it until you can get it as flat as possible

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