What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3?

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2015/09/19 17:21:55 (permalink)

What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3?

I would like to free up some hard drive space...I realize I would have to do a custom install to restore things lost...If I miss them. V-vocal and R-Mix. Should I use Windows un-install or manually delete items?

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/19 18:18:57 (permalink)
    If you run the uninstall programs then you would need to re-install X2 to get V-Vocal and R-Mix. Instead, if you don't mind leaving the installer data in the registry, you can manually delete the programs. This will leave V-Vocal, R-Mix and all the other plug-ins untouched. Assuming X1 through X3 are 64bit producer versions and all the files are in the default locations, the folders to remove are
    C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X1 Producer
    C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X2 Producer
    C:\Program Files\Cakewalk\SONAR X3 Producer
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Music Creator 6
    C:\Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Shared* (there are several 32bit folders, all used by MC6 and or 32bit SONAR)
    C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\Music Creator 6
    C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\SONAR X1 Producer
    C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\SONAR X2 Producer
    C:\ProgramData\Cakewalk\SONAR X3 Producer
    C:\Cakewalk Content\Music Creator 6
    C:\Cakewalk Content\SONAR X1 Producer
    C:\Cakewalk Content\SONAR X2 Producer
    C:\Cakewalk Content\SONAR X3 Producer
    There are also version specific folders in your user directory in AppData\Roaming\Cakewalk
    Finally there are registry entries for each version in
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Cakewalk Music Software\SONAR Producer
     
    Here is where I have to guess a little, Music Creator has similar registry entries in
    HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Cakewalk Music Software
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Wow6432Node\Cakewalk Music Software
    I believe there will be a "Cakewalk Music Creator\6.0" in each path
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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 08:01:23 (permalink)
    All 64 bit, Thanks scook. I'll look into it.
     

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 15:24:15 (permalink)
    Strange. I did use uninstall programs, but I didn't lose any plugins. How could that happen?

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 15:29:26 (permalink)
    Are you saying V-Vocal and R-Mix were retained after removing the program that installed them?
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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 15:31:32 (permalink)
    Yes.
     

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 15:42:50 (permalink)
    That is a surprising result. I would expect you still need to perform a little clean up in your user directory, the registry and maybe Cakewalk Content.
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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 15:48:33 (permalink)
    V-vocal seems to be gone. Sonar crashes when I try to insert it. It's still in the list? It should be gone. Strange. R-Mix works.
    Good time to try out my new Paragon 15 backup. I believe I'll do a restore before I screw things up again. Deleting M6, X1,X2,and X3 only saved 16gb anyway.

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 17:12:49 (permalink)
    Okay, I decided to do another backup before trying a restore. Now I should have a before and after version of my OS.
    Questions I have are...(while waiting for 2 hours for the backup to complete).
    1. Why is V-vocal still in the Region FX list? And why does it's absence cause Sonar to crash?
    2. Why is R-mix still there? Why does it work? Is it because I have custom folders for my Vsts?
    3. Why does deleting four Cakewalk daws only save 16gb? This makes me think something went wrong to begin with.
    4. Would re-installing Platinum get rid of V-vocal and R-mix?...or maybe a reset, rescan?
     

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 17:27:21 (permalink)
    1. It could be the V-Vocal registry entry is still there. The uninstall process does not clean up the registry.
    2. IDK. If R-Mix was moved from the original installation path, the uninstaller would not know about it.
    3. 16GB seems like a lot of free disk space. Here is a thread which breaks down the savings removing one of X series http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=3179132 (I don't remember if I was looking at X2 or X3 but they are similar)
    4. re-installing Platinum would have no effect on plug-ins not bundled with it. A VST reset would only affect R-Mix because V-Vocal is a DirectX plug-in.
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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 17:36:38 (permalink)
    Do you use the Command Center to install Platinum?
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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 18:26:22 (permalink)
    Yes. I use the Command Center. I'm thinking I just need to remove V-Vocal from the registry, but I'm trying to learn a few things along the way. My new version of Paragon 15 home for one. I almost did the restore and then thought better of it (I'm reading up on it now). It seems removing MC6, X1,X2 and X3 are probably not worth the trouble anyway.

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 18:34:26 (permalink)
    Do you removed the installers from the Command Center download cache or have the download cache on a different drive? The installers can consume a lot of space.
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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 18:45:56 (permalink)
    hmmm. Good question. I haven't removed anything from CCC. I just used windows un-install and then went into C:/programs and did a little manual cleanup. I'm restoring my system now. When it's finished I'll check into the installers. They are probably all there. I now think other things should go before my versions of Sonar anyway. I have tutorials, loops and my entire Sample tank 2.5 stuff. I don't use any of that. I'm not in dire need yet anyway. I have about half of my 500 gigs left on my OS drive.

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/09/20 21:43:35 (permalink)
    Okay, everything back like before. Live and learn.
    Paragon 15 works well.

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    Re: What is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3? 2015/11/08 10:03:37 (permalink)
    clintmartinWhat is the best way to delete MC6, Sonar X1, X2 and X3?



    This is funny because I just recently re-installed X1 and X2 on my machine for nostalgic purposes and to look back and see just how bad X1 sucked, or to re-experience how buggy and crashy X2a was.  So I have X1d Pro Expanded, X2a Pro, X3e Pro, and Platinum on my machine.  I guess I could also install X1 Studio, where it all began, as well!
     
    Demented, I know.
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