What on earth is going on?

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2017/04/08 17:17:15 (permalink)

What on earth is going on?

Half the time, samples that were working just stop sounding.  This happens in Play and Kontakt.  I'm getting really sick of this.  Sonar is just so fragile.

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    karhide
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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 17:24:29 (permalink)
    I think you need to give more details about your project setup because I use Kontakt all the time and do not have the issue. 

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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 17:42:53 (permalink)
    And I use both Play as well as Kontakt all the time without ever an issue that you mention.


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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 17:53:17 (permalink)
    All recording has been fragile - we have moved from tapes which wear out, tape heads which wear out or get magnetized and need cleaning, tapes that stretch and have wow and flutter TO
    Computers where operating systems can be prone to virus and other problems, hard drives with their problems, software issues, etc.
     
    Having said all this, there is not enough info in the OP to indicate that this has anything to do with Sonar.
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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 17:58:11 (permalink)
    Raise the value of 'Prepare Using buffer in MIDI Playback and Recording preferences to 500ms if it's at the default of 250. If you're using Linear Phase or other plugins that induce a lot of PDC you might need to go higher, but 500ms is sufficient for the vast majority of projects and systems.

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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 18:04:15 (permalink)
    +1 to Bundlefly's comment.
     
    The reason why any program can appear "fragile" is because there need to be preferences that can accommodate a wide variety of systems. It's necessary to match the preferences to the system. You may get lucky and find the factory defaults match what you have, which leads to the comments like "Program X works perfectly in my system but Program Y" doesn't, while in a different forum someone is posting that "Program X works perfectly in my system but Program Y" doesn't."
     
    This isn't just a computer thing. Anyone who's lived through biasing a tape recorder for different tape formulations has experienced a variation on the same phenomenon. 

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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 19:13:18 (permalink)
    I get tense every time I open sonar.  A day doesn't go by that there isn't some issue.  Today I worked with sonar for 2 hours.  In those two hours I had to send two error reports to Cakewalk, and then of course the issues with samples not working.  The play *bug* with sonar has been known for a long time.

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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 19:29:24 (permalink)
     
    I searched " The play *bug* with sonar" and this is what google returned (first result)
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/Solved-MIDI-playback-bug-Sonar-Platinum-201605-m3433639.aspx
     
    More often than not it is buffers. but possibly its a hardware issue.
    I would run some tests by disconnecting the MOTU and use onboard audio (just for some tests)
    Try the WASAPI driver for Windows 10. If the crashes stop you know its hardware related.
    I would start from gear 1 and work my way through the whole system. there's something causing those crashes.
    I wish I could tell you its all sonar, I just don't think it is. Very stable here and im not just saying that or trying to rub it in the wound im just trying to help

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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/08 20:03:21 (permalink)
    eph221
    Half the time, samples that were working just stop sounding.  This happens in Play and Kontakt.  I'm getting really sick of this.  Sonar is just so fragile.


    Hey I think your issue is legitimate.
    I  Sonar, sometimes the midi channel is changed, and I don't know why.
    If suddenly it does play, can you click on the midi track (right side), and do Alt 8 to see which midi channel the track is on.
    Perhaps, it has been changed, so instead of 1 it is now something else other than 1.
    If it is 4 then on Kontakt, click on Midi Ch and change the number to the corresponding channel of the midi track.
    I found this out after so many times that Kontakt will not play, just like you described.
    Try it and let me know if it works.
    dan
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    Re: What on earth is going on? 2017/04/09 01:09:36 (permalink)
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    Half the time, samples that were working just stop sounding.  This happens in Play and Kontakt.  I'm getting really sick of this.  Sonar is just so fragile.


    Hey I think your issue is legitimate.
    I  Sonar, sometimes the midi channel is changed, and I don't know why.
    If suddenly it does play, can you click on the midi track (right side), and do Alt 8 to see which midi channel the track is on.
    Perhaps, it has been changed, so instead of 1 it is now something else other than 1.
    If it is 4 then on Kontakt, click on Midi Ch and change the number to the corresponding channel of the midi track.
    I found this out after so many times that Kontakt will not play, just like you described.
    Try it and let me know if it works.
    dan


    Hey Dan,thanks.  Unfortunately, that's not the problem.  The other annoying thing is that if I start playback somewhere other than the beginning, some samples play, other's don't  It's a crap shoot everytime I play something back.

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