username5000
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What would make...
a guitar hum. I have an old peavey predator that I just got back from my guitar tech. I took it in because it would hum unless i was touching the strings. If I touched the strings or the jack, it would stop. I had him put some Fender Vintage Hot Noiseless pickups on it and replace all the pots and the switch thinking this would get rid of the humming. It didn't. It must be something in the grounding because I also have a new Ibanez (with active pick-ups) that doesn't make a sound so I know it's not the cord or anything in my setup. I got a diagram for wiring a guitar and it said to ground to the body cavity. I took a small screw and screwed it in the cavity, sauldered an insulated wire to the screw head, and sauldered the other end of the wire to the volume pot (per diagram). This did nothing. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/30 19:36:03
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Sounds like that to which you connect the guitar to needs a ground. That's because when you touch the jack, the noise vanishes. The jack you touch is where the cable plugs-in, isn't it? So that cable goes to an amp or preamp, and I would test if that is grounded, which should ground its jack. If not grounded, then test by grounding it in a preliminary way to see it that solves the problem. Just a guess, though.
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/30 22:16:35
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sounds like the strings and the metal parts are not bonded (connected electrically) to the cord shield and therefore the amp ground. the parts should be connected together and grounded to the shield....that allows the hum voltages a path to ground rather than floating like an unconnected guitar cord. check the cord and amp by plugging up another guitar.... if it hums, the amp/cord is likely the issue... if it's quiet, the PV guitar is the issue. Also.... does turning the volume knob change the hum volume level? Is the guitar cord a god quality shielded cable? Using a cheap, unshielded (speaker cable) cord will cause hum regardless of the guitar and amp. add: google this and you will find lots of info on this topic. If the guitar is a cheaply made guitar, hum is practically unavoidable. I bought a (cheap) guitar at a yard sale one time...carried it to the gig..... plugged it into my boogie and tried to play it. the noise, hum and feedback were unbelievable. I switched it out after 2 songs. the soundman really liked it and bought it from me that same night. It looked cool, but sounded like crap.
post edited by Guitarhacker - 2010/07/30 22:20:36
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/30 22:21:40
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Connecting a wire to the body cavity only works if the body cavity is lined with shielding material. As suggested above, if you need to touch your strings to reduce the hum, you probably need to attach a ground connector to your bridge which will be connected to your strings etc. Didn't your tech tell you that before selling you new pickups? best regards, mike
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/30 23:14:56
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The tech installed the pickups, pots, and switch, if I am reading this correctly. Kind of makes you wonder?
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/31 01:26:52
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Go over to your buddies place or another music shop. Plug into thier amps and see if it is still making that noise.
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/31 06:33:19
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I had one of the original Predator's (made in USA, not the later ones that were "imported") and it didn't do that. There is a ground missing somewhere.
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/31 10:07:45
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Does it have a whammy bar? Strats are sort of famous for that connection breaking loose after to many bends on the whammy bar... but it's always simple to reconnect. best, mike
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Re:What would make...
2010/07/31 11:04:49
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Are you standing near a computer monitor or fluorescent light?
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username5000
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Re:What would make...
2010/08/03 16:49:13
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Lotta good stuff there. Before I took it in it hummed no matter which posistion the switch was in as long as I wasn't touching the strings. My tech made it to where it only hummed when the switch is set to use, solely, the neck pick-up, and thats only if I have distortion or any gain at all. It doesn't hum at all on any sort of "clean" effect. I opened it back up and replaced the ground that goes to the bridge and springs with a solid #12 aluminum wire and that has reduced it a little but it's still not as quiet as I'd like it to be. As far as a sheilded lining, the underside of my pick guard has this lining but the body cavity does not. Installing that will be my next move. While I had it back open I checked all the wiring against the diagram I have and everything looked kosher. My music room is small and crammed full of electronic devices but none of it seems to effect my other guitars. I did get out the ol' ohm meter and there is in fact continuity between all the pots and the ground so, I don't know.....those new pick-ups sound mighty good with just some reverb and a little chorus. As long as theres no distortion or gain it's quiet as a church mouse.
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Re:What would make...
2010/08/04 00:03:57
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Is there any continuity between the strings and the ground?
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Re:What would make...
2010/08/06 11:16:25
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I FIXED IT!!! I took everything back apart and lined the body cavity with some of that silver metal tape (I call it thousand mile an hour tape) and made sure it was bonded to the lining under my pick guard and all the pots and bridge. Now it doesn't make a sound. It's like I have a brand new guitar. Thank you everyone for your replies.
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