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2018/02/24 22:46:38 (permalink)

What would you pay for?

Obviously, they can't ignore money. I think there's more to why they do it, but it has to be part of it at least.
 
So, aside from coffee cups and t-shirts, what software changes would you be willing to take out your wallet for?
 
For me, I would pay for Rapture/Rapture-Pro spin sets of voices to different threads/processes so that the load can be spread over processors. I'll bet I'd pay $100 for that.
 
How about you? What would make you take out your wallet?

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/24 22:54:11 (permalink)
I'd like to see some bugs fixed in the core product, which I don't really fancy paying for... unless it's part of an overall product upgrade.
 
What I would like to see though, is some pay-for add on modules along the lines of the SoftTube Console 1 integration, such as:
1. Pro Channel support for audio devices that have built in EQ, dynamics etc (RME UFX, Tascam 20x20 etc)
2. Integration with specific 3rd party software such as notation editors, wave editors etc
3. Project export support to other vendors, so support collaboration (although I think azslow is taking a fantastic lead here already) - I'd pay per program
 
I'd also pay for more content / media clips etc.
 
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 00:01:05 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby celopadua 2018/02/25 19:19:48
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I would pay $299.97 to upgrade my Platinum Lifetime if ProChannel disappeared, the inspector panel vanished, and the phase and stereo interleave buttons reappeared on the track headers where they belong.
 
I'd give another $100, or so, if a new Theme Editor could edit the stuff it can't.
 
Maybe more.
 

These things would probably make me leave Sonar! I love ProChannel and the inspector panel!

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 00:06:38 (permalink)
Little ones:
 
25 € - crossfade on/off status icon/button
25 € - ripple edit mode status icon/button
30 € if SONAR saves last opened project file immediately after project is opened (to save it in recent files in case of crash)
10 € - clicking big track icon to open soft synth on an instrument track (currently the little icon works only)
 
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 01:32:36 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby celopadua 2018/02/25 19:20:09
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I would pay $299.97 to upgrade my Platinum Lifetime if ProChannel disappeared, the inspector panel vanished, and the phase and stereo interleave buttons reappeared on the track headers where they belong.
 
I'd give another $100, or so, if a new Theme Editor could edit the stuff it can't.
 
Maybe more.
 

These things would probably make me leave Sonar! I love ProChannel and the inspector panel!


Me too.
 
I would like t see theme editor finished though. I spent way too much time creating a completely new Control bar, but if I paid for Theme Editor, I'd feel compelled to do another. So probably best that's not an option.
 
I would pay for the ability to drag and drop and edit and mapping of my own samples into Rapture, making it a sampler.
 
 

 
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 17:09:31 (permalink)
Since Sonar X1 I've either bought the updates or subscribed - if the product remains essentially the same and prices are reasonable I don't see why I'd change. Prior to X1 I skipped a few updates now and then.
 

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 17:26:31 (permalink)
I'd like to see fixes and refinement to the existing features.  I'd be willing to pay for that.  Step sequencer, drum maps, notation editor, MIDI comping, arpeggiator, ACT, and MIDI plugins could all use some love.  Gapless audio engine would be nice.  Browser improvements. . . the browser is stuck in the 90's.  Stability improvements would be great.
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 17:52:54 (permalink)
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I would pay $299.97 to upgrade my Platinum Lifetime if ProChannel disappeared, the inspector panel vanished, and the phase and stereo interleave buttons reappeared on the track headers where they belong.
 
I'd give another $100, or so, if a new Theme Editor could edit the stuff it can't.
 
Maybe more.
 

These things would probably make me leave Sonar! I love ProChannel and the inspector panel!


Me too. I already have Studio One if Sonar is not going to continue on with PC. PC is what sets it aside from the competition. You can always close PC in Sonar if you don’t want to use it. Others don’t have the convience of the PC.

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 18:15:07 (permalink)
I'd pay $100 for a PRV that had all the great functionality and hot keys and the *stronger reliable colours* of 2017.01 and previous, combined with the newer (post 2017.01) controller pane, as long as the controller pane had a quick and easy right there in front of you way of showing hiding lanes.
 
PRV Hot Keys I'm thinking of:
1) untick 1 or more tracks colour to unshow it in the PRV - hit V to invert the selection which hides all other tracks and shows the one you just unticked - then hit A to reshow all.
Wiping a mouse over a long list of tracks to show hide or having to do 3 or more mouse clicks to use a filter is not nearly as fast.
Also SHFT+C should Show / Hide the controller pane.


I'd pay an other $100 for an interface that remembers every nuance of everything - everywhere (all of it!!!) where you left everything in every screenset without having to lock the screenset
or if that's not possible I'd still pay $100 for a hot key that locks/unlocks screensets combined with a screenset panel that shows locked and unlocked as different colours, as long as the screenset locking is
bullet proof, written in granite with a titanium chisel, reliable.

I'd pay an other $100 for Console View Folders combined with a Track Manager that is the same interface for all 3 views (PRV, TV and CV) but doesn't demand that TV and CV be the same, and that works all the time without exception in each view. - Must NOT necessitate Track View and Console View be the same. 

I'd add an other $25.00 if
for all of the above if there was *No Lost Functionality* that is present in 2017.01!

Let's round that off to $324.99!



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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 18:24:45 (permalink)
What I would pay for is a DAW that was optimized for live performance. 
 
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 18:38:43 (permalink)
A grown up staff/notation functionality would complete Sonar to me. It is about the only thing lacking imo. I use Finale when I want to write scores and edit things for print, or when just writing music because I sometimes write music that way out of habit instead of writing with pen and paper. It is way to cumbersome to do that today in Sonar and in all honesty doesn't really work. 
 
Someone offered us Cakewalk owners to buy a notation program on the cheap a while back after the annoncement, and he even talked about there having been talks about integrating that program into Sonar? Something like that I would pay for to have it all in one program rather than switch between several as I do today. 
 
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 18:50:41 (permalink)
Although I'm one of those that bought Studio One 3 Pro, Platinum does everything I need as I only use it like a multi-track tape recorder.  To avoid obsolescence of Platinum (current version) I would consider a "nominal" fee for new  versions (not a cloud type version) that would be guaranteed to be Windows futureproof.
 
I use the Pro Channel with my "tape recorder".
 
 
 
 

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 19:04:49 (permalink)
20 €: option to hide Track Control Manager because I keep everything visible always. It's just a waste of screen estate and it could be replaced with crossfades and ripple edit buttons.
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 19:12:09 (permalink)
i have bought lite time update of sonar platinum. If they want my more money;
 
1-have to keep core funtions of sonar platinum which i use to
2-must add some newly vstis and vst
3-much more copatibility for other musical softwares
4-must guarante to frequent updates
 
So i may reserve 150$ for new Daw (it may be much more expensive but i am waiting some dumping for exiting user)

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 19:14:43 (permalink)
Matrix.  And better touch, tho that will take time to figure out what works and doesn't.
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 19:35:56 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2018/02/25 21:39:09
I think they need to get a dialog going with Sonar users and compile a dossier of show stopping bugs, design flaws, annoyances and other workflow killers and frustrations. All the things that make people yell "goddammit" at the screen 100x during every session. Many of these issues are minor but there are so many of them and the accumulative effect can be to make users feel like they're fighting against the program instead of working with it. 
 
There is a ton of this "minor" stuff, like for instance: many times during a session I will accidentally click on the "show automation lanes" button on a track, and despite the fact that I have no intention of automating the volume, Sonar will give me an automation envelope hardwired to the fader simply by virtue of my having clicked that button. I have to manually delete it. It's a "show automation lanes" button, not a "create a volume envelope" button. Big "tch" moment every time I do it. If there are no active automation lanes on the track, just give me a blank lane and I'll choose a parameter for it if I want! I wonder how many times a Sonar beginner has done that, closed the lane and then wondered why the volume fader keeps snapping back to unity every time they try to move it. Stuff like that is horrible design from a user experience standpoint. 
 
Loads of stuff needs polishing up, like the way in which you select parameters for an automation lane. It's all very well and good when you want to automate the pan pot or something which is right there at the top of the menu, but let's say you want to automate an EQ band on an EQ with a dozen possible bands. You end up having to scroll through an endless list of parameters in a menu in which you can't even use your scroll wheel. It's horrible. 
 
Make the mapping of controllers to mix controls and VST controls easier and more intuitive. It frustrates new users and even long time users. Update old and awful parts of the program, like the horribly counter-intuitive and frustrating keyboard shortcut manager. When you compare it to shortcut managers in other DAW's it's an abomination. Update the browser. Make the export dialog less confusing and more in line with how people would expect it to work - this has always been a huge source of confusion among users judging by forum posts ("I exported a track and it sounds nothing like the original" etc). 
 
Have automation nodes show the PROPER value of what you're automating when moving them or hovering over them. When I'm automating a filter cutoff and the node shows "65%" instead of the value in Hz, that's super annoying and so unhelpful. 
 
These are just a drop in the ocean of similar little annoyances and sloppy design which together contribute to the feeling of Sonar being "unpolished." They no doubt drive a lot of people away. Fixing this stuff along with some of the long standing, stupid bugs which should have been fixed years ago should be the #1 priority, and I'm sure BandLab and the new team will realize this. 

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 20:00:22 (permalink)
How about I'll start  thread just for this topic. Good idea John, even though this one is sort of the same the title is not clear. 

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 20:26:26 (permalink)
To be able to change the name of a project from the skyline interface.  As of so many of you like me really don't know what to call your song until you really get into the project. Been using Studio One 3.5 Pro and you can do it with ease in there.  This would be a really nice feature.
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 21:06:35 (permalink)
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Make the export dialog less confusing and more in line with how people would expect it to work - this has always been a huge source of confusion among users judging by forum posts ("I exported a track and it sounds nothing like the original" etc).


I don't agree with this! IMHO Sonar has the best export dialog I have seen in the DAW liga (the 10 I tested). It is very well structured and allows you to disable several things and it is much easier than in other DAWs to select the valid range. For me it is on the top list of my DAW requirements (a Sonar-like export dialog).

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 21:10:14 (permalink)
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I'd like to see fixes and refinement to the existing features. ...  Stability improvements would be great.


That is also what I would pay for!

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 21:48:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby gswitz 2018/02/27 00:03:29
I purchased Sonar because it was well packed with features and great plugins, including some excellent 3rd party plugins and instruments. I'm not going to pay for some minor adjustments, like a new button, new screensets or similar features.

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 21:55:25 (permalink)
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I would pay $299.97 to upgrade my Platinum Lifetime if ProChannel disappeared, the inspector panel vanished, and the phase and stereo interleave buttons reappeared on the track headers where they belong.
 
I'd give another $100, or so, if a new Theme Editor could edit the stuff it can't.
 
Maybe more.
 
 


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Don't use it then. Nobody forces you to.

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 21:55:25 (permalink)
Duplicate 

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 22:14:32 (permalink)
I would like to see first all annoying bugs and workflow slow down fixed before I would think about investing again in Sonar.
 
Well I suppose our Life time licenses means now nothing... Anyway because of what happened to secure alternative I invested in S1 so don't feel under pressure anymore. 
 
If all annoying and frustrating bugs are fixed and new versions are introducing some really game changer feature I will consider further investment in Sonar for sure.
Just like with every buy which help to improve workflow...
 
But I don't really want to pay more for something what should already be done.
 
Too many unfinished things, just like unfamous lack of very simple thing like ripple button... Simple to implement as functionality already exists.

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/25 23:04:00 (permalink)
I guess I'm a little more forgiving of workflow bugs. There's a hundred different ways to approach a project and Sonar covers a lot of different scenarios quite well. I would like to see a few Gui enhancements - but they're minor annoyances like the transposition slider on the track inspector. Very hard to move discrete steps and get back to zero. Copy the Velocity offset slider for midi tracks to the track inspector. Smaller MSR buttons. Fix the  aux send panners to visually track with the channel pan control when they're linked. Maybe an improved method of populating the console view to mirror the track view.
 
I'd be glad to pay for an upgrade to Platinum from Professional. but I would like to choose which functions and media to upgrade.
 
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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/26 19:06:09 (permalink)
I'd have to wait and see.
I bought Studio 1 after the "big announcement" and have been using it since (I figured it was only a matter of time until the servers went down") and I have to say it does a lot of things better than SONAR. I can get latency down to where I can record guitar with amp sims (could never get that low with SONAR) and the arrangement view is amazing. Plus the "Project" feature is a winner.
Having said all that, I still would rather use SONAR, to me it's more intuitive and.....it just looks better. More elegant. And it's what I used for almost 15 years, so yeah, I have a little loyalty? attachment? 
I'm glad to see SONAR isn't dead and I hope the folks at BandLab give me a reason to keep using it.

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Re: What would you pay for? 2018/02/27 02:53:53 (permalink)
I would pay for an upgraded, more stable, VST3 version of Pentagon I.
 
I would also pay for a 64 bit version of Project 5.
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