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Re: What's coming to SONAR
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2015/06/22 09:12:10
mettelus The update cycle as it stands could use refinement as each update is forcing me to undo unwanted installation changes. The Cakewalk Content folder shows up on the C drive and the picture cache went there last update. Too many "surprises" to deal with. As I rebuild the machine from scratch this weekend I am seriously debating not reinstalling Platinum.
I understand why people want to do custom installations, but I guess one reason I have so few problems is I just say "yes" to defaults for almost all programs (not just SONAR) because it seems to make them happy  . The only exception for me is putting content on a big honkin' hard drive so the C drive has space for the programs themeselves. Part of this may be due to my coming from the Mac all those years ago, where you just click install and that's it...you really don't have any choices at all. I always thought that helped contribute to the Mac's stability, so I kept following the same path when I added Windows to my computer repertoire.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 03:40:22
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None of the bells introduced in S-Plat have been of interest to me and this is no different. I don't need a drum replacer, nor a MIDI pattern brush. I want my bread and butter workflow to be a pleasure. I need a simple and clean solution to MIDI editing so I don't have to faff around w/ the mouse trying to find the magic pixel to get the cursor to change to the tool I need, or switch tools again and again, often striking out completely. What a complete workflow killer.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 03:41:07
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mettelus The update cycle as it stands could use refinement as each update is forcing me to undo unwanted installation changes. The Cakewalk Content folder shows up on the C drive and the picture cache went there last update. Too many "surprises" to deal with. As I rebuild the machine from scratch this weekend I am seriously debating not reinstalling Platinum.
Don't agonise over it every update. Just leave everything in its default location and use mklink to move the actual files to other drives, linking back to the default locations. Fixes all the problems, whether its content like loops, plugins or samples it all works fine. No need for registry edits that can get overwritten either.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 07:18:09
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Though I have spent plenty of money on things like Trigger 2 and Slate VCC which, IMO, are still far superior to SOME of the new features in Sonar, I welcome the fact that the Bakers are now constantly evaluating the build and assessing issues on a monthly cycle. Small steps will get the job done much more effectively than large leaps once a year. And when Drum Replacer finally replaces Trigger (semi-pun), I'll be happy to embrace it and just keep on trackin'. Most noticeable to me has been a massive increase in general stability inside Platinum. Everything else is a bonus. Good work Bakers. L.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 07:46:16
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Thanks Andrew, since you asked :)....cool but I could live without most of this but now I would like to see stuff that helps with the workflow...like real important fundamental stuff: My top 3 dream features/addons: 1: shortcuts (like shift + T / shift + A ) to collapse/expand all or selected tracks take lanes / automation lanes, if no track selected/active, these shortcut will effect all tracks that have takelanes & automation lanes.... This one is a real pain as it is now, becaus there is no way to collapse/expand them at once, only way is to one track at time, current functionallity forces me to keep all tracks takelanes/automation lanes open and i have many tracks with take/automation lanes, it looks sooo messy, have to scroll up snd down alot to navigate thru the tracks... Please make this feature 2: more visible highlighted active track/ selected track needed. Its hard too see an active track in track view and console view, its impossible to find/see the the active track right now and also see same track in console view easily (I run on 2 screens, console view on 2'nd screen) , workaround now is if you solo the track in track view, the way to find the same track in console view is look for which track is solo'ed (green (S)) So, a more visible highlighted track (whole track/console track ) would be awesome, as it is now, a blue track name background color is really not enough... This one could be customizeable in options menu, how visible highlight, what areas and so on... 3: better difference between take lanes and regular tracks, they look the same.. Small features but with big positive workflow impact IMHO Maybe these features won't sell new sonar copies but these will make me (or other users) stay with sonar.....Think about that... (Don't tell me to feature request these, already did, no effect :( ) Thanks for reading... ...and Andrew, please respond to this, (I wrote all this on my phone, do you know how hard it is to write this much on a phone? :)) thanks
post edited by orhanproject - 2015/06/22 17:45:38
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 07:56:35
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I would like to see more improvements and features on the core side of the Sonar programm instead of plugin development and fx-chains. My instruments, sounds or fx are already covered by the current sonar or good 3rd party plugins. The features forum is full on good requests of core Sonar features to enhance workflow and usabilty and it will be more day by day. I would wish that more attention is paid to these user requests. _Markus
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 08:10:15
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I agree. Everything I need/use, except for Ozone 5, is incorporated in Sonar. I don't need any more drums, effect chains, etc.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 09:06:12
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Anderton
mettelus The update cycle as it stands could use refinement as each update is forcing me to undo unwanted installation changes. The Cakewalk Content folder shows up on the C drive and the picture cache went there last update. Too many "surprises" to deal with. As I rebuild the machine from scratch this weekend I am seriously debating not reinstalling Platinum.
I understand why people want to do custom installations, but I guess one reason I have so few problems is I just say "yes" to defaults for almost all programs (not just SONAR) because it seems to make them happy . The only exception for me is putting content on a big honkin' hard drive so the C drive has space for the programs themeselves. Part of this may be due to my coming from the Mac all those years ago, where you just click install and that's it...you really don't have any choices at all. I always thought that helped contribute to the Mac's stability, so I kept following the same path when I added Windows to my computer repertoire.
That's the same way I do the installs, without the Mac background.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 09:14:43
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Ok, I'm a noob, but sheesh! Some of you seem like a bunch of whiny bratty kids. If Sonar can't be all things to all people, then somehow it's not worthy of existence, and should be taken out back and shot(hyperbole is nice in small doses IMO). We have many choices in Sonar as to how to execute whatever it is we are doing. I mean I almost fell out of my chair when I printed out the shortcuts doc. I was expecting at most a front and back dealio. What I got was 5 pages! So, I'm not a power user, not a fanboy, and after researching(and spending money on) the different ways of producing music on my own, I ended up here. When I was working, I never accomplished anything in Sonar. Now that I have the time to learn, I am amazed each and every day at the "power" in my hands. When I look back at my life, I see some good, some bad, and a lot of in between. It has made me who I am for better or worse. I try to keep things on the better side. All that to say, when I look back at CWs existence(remember DOS?), I see the same thing. A few missteps along the way, but lessons learned. They have a nice healthy view of client relations and as time passes, they trim, and cut, and prune, and fertilize(new features), and here we are....Sorry, I should have used baking terms!
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 10:09:26
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☄ Helpfulby kevinwal 2015/06/22 12:30:14
Getting too much stuff from Cakewalk is the best problem to have. No one has to download it. If it came at the expense of stability then I would feel differently but it hasn't.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 10:40:27
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mdages I would like to see more improvements and features on the core side of the Sonar programm instead of plugin development and fx-chains. My instruments, sounds or fx are already covered by the current sonar or good 3rd party plugins. The features forum is full on good requests of core Sonar features to enhance workflow and usabilty and it will be more day by day. I would wish that more attention is paid to these user requests. _Markus
Agree 100%
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 12:15:10
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charlyg Ok, I'm a noob, but sheesh! Some of you seem like a bunch of whiny bratty kids. If Sonar can't be all things to all people, then somehow it's not worthy of existence, and should be taken out back and shot(hyperbole is nice in small doses IMO). We have many choices in Sonar as to how to execute whatever it is we are doing. I mean I almost fell out of my chair when I printed out the shortcuts doc. I was expecting at most a front and back dealio. What I got was 5 pages! So, I'm not a power user, not a fanboy, and after researching(and spending money on) the different ways of producing music on my own, I ended up here. When I was working, I never accomplished anything in Sonar. Now that I have the time to learn, I am amazed each and every day at the "power" in my hands. When I look back at my life, I see some good, some bad, and a lot of in between. It has made me who I am for better or worse. I try to keep things on the better side. All that to say, when I look back at CWs existence(remember DOS?), I see the same thing. A few missteps along the way, but lessons learned. They have a nice healthy view of client relations and as time passes, they trim, and cut, and prune, and fertilize(new features), and here we are....Sorry, I should have used baking terms!
This is a Membership - where better for Members to express their views on the forthcoming contents? Much has been made of Cake's active listening to their customers - I don't think that means exclusively cheerleading. FWIW I didn't read anything remotely negative in any of the posts in this thread - very civil and to the point. The only reason members are offering their opinions is to help to make the product even better, imo.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 12:16:18
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2015/06/22 12:25:32
orhanproject
mdages I would like to see more improvements and features on the core side of the Sonar programm instead of plugin development and fx-chains. My instruments, sounds or fx are already covered by the current sonar or good 3rd party plugins. The features forum is full on good requests of core Sonar features to enhance workflow and usabilty and it will be more day by day. I would wish that more attention is paid to these user requests. _Markus
Agree 100%
Add my 100% too (he says in a non-whiny tone).
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 12:30:26
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It's either all about me, or all about you, or all about us. If it is all about us, we need to cut each other some slack. I would like to think the bakers, the bean counters, and the user community have common, if not identical goals. Each feature request has to be weighed against the others, and we, the users, don't have the bandwidth for all of the facts. I just know that to "me" this particular fix/feature is critical. Had they been of the mindset that stability trumps everything, we would still be on 8.5 or some such........ And if I was a bit over the top, I apologize.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 12:31:41
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cclarry I have to say that Sonar Platinum has been a very worthwhile investment. It just keeps on getting better, even without all the "added" things, just the overall feature improvements during the course of Platinum has been outstanding, both in terms of usefulness, and in terms of value added.
My hat is off to Cakewalk, Noel and the boys, and everyone that has obviously done of a lot of work to get these things implemented, and to Craig for his continued presence and contributions to both the Forum and the Product.
Compared to Pro Tools, which hasn't had a single update really since the release of V12 8 months ago, even though LOTS of new features were "promised", I think Cakewalk has delivered on every front, and I sure hope that the Industry takes note of this and makes a paradigm shift towards it...
Great job guys...and you're only half way through the year! (the REAL question is "how are you going to top what you've already done? )
Yeah.....what Larry said.....great job guys, keep up the good work! Rocky
Yeah.....what Rocky said about what Larry said....
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 12:52:16
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charlyg It's either all about me, or all about you, or all about us. If it is all about us, we need to cut each other some slack. I would like to think the bakers, the bean counters, and the user community have common, if not identical goals. Each feature request has to be weighed against the others, and we, the users, don't have the bandwidth for all of the facts. I just know that to "me" this particular fix/feature is critical. Had they been of the mindset that stability trumps everything, we would still be on 8.5 or some such........ And if I was a bit over the top, I apologize.
Apology accepted- (just kidding - lighten up - opinions don't hurt anybody).
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 17:09:47
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Very well written, cclarry I agree. Exciting times
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 17:32:48
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Zargg71 Very well written, cclarry I agree. Exciting times
The link is to my profile? And Im on -88 dBFS only ?! I need to be louder then :) Or maybe reffering to my join date? No, no troll here, I switch to the new with new avatar so the old joined date is gone :( , long time user here though...
post edited by orhanproject - 2015/06/22 18:03:20
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 17:35:37
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Hugs and kisses all around. Okay, so really, what is next?
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/22 19:28:17
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cakewalk has really jumped ahead of a lot of other software's in my opinion. here is wishing the best forward.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 09:55:24
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orhanproject Thanks Andrew, since you asked :)....cool but I could live without most of this but now I would like to see stuff that helps with the workflow...like real important fundamental stuff:
My top 3 dream features/addons:
1: shortcuts (like shift + T / shift + A ) to collapse/expand all or selected tracks take lanes / automation lanes, if no track selected/active, these shortcut will effect all tracks that have takelanes & automation lanes.... This one is a real pain as it is now, becaus there is no way to collapse/expand them at once, only way is to one track at time, current functionallity forces me to keep all tracks takelanes/automation lanes open and i have many tracks with take/automation lanes, it looks sooo messy, have to scroll up snd down alot to navigate thru the tracks... Please make this feature
2: more visible highlighted active track/ selected track needed. Its hard too see an active track in track view and console view, its impossible to find/see the the active track right now and also see same track in console view easily (I run on 2 screens, console view on 2'nd screen) , workaround now is if you solo the track in track view, the way to find the same track in console view is look for which track is solo'ed (green (S)) So, a more visible highlighted track (whole track/console track ) would be awesome, as it is now, a blue track name background color is really not enough... This one could be customizeable in options menu, how visible highlight, what areas and so on...
3: better difference between take lanes and regular tracks, they look the same..
Small features but with big positive workflow impact IMHO
Maybe these features won't sell new sonar copies but these will make me (or other users) stay with sonar.....Think about that...
(Don't tell me to feature request these, already did, no effect :( )
Thanks for reading...
...and Andrew, please respond to this, (I wrote all this on my phone, do you know how hard it is to write this much on a phone? :)) thanks
Thanks for the feedback. Will definitely pass along. We love to read people's feedback, good or bad, so keep it coming.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 10:16:45
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orhanproject
mdages I would like to see more improvements and features on the core side of the Sonar programm instead of plugin development and fx-chains. My instruments, sounds or fx are already covered by the current sonar or good 3rd party plugins. The features forum is full on good requests of core Sonar features to enhance workflow and usabilty and it will be more day by day. I would wish that more attention is paid to these user requests. _Markus
Agree 100%
I see it like - Platinum is the version that brings the most moneywise to Cakewalk. So content and plugins is what differentiates Platinum from the rest - also in expectations from users. As Artist user I would love to see general improvements on core Sonar DAW - but also understand the facts of life of a business. So I think we need to accept that plugins and content is what is happening the most. But when it comes to fixes of core daw we all can expect equal treatment.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 10:21:01
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
orhanproject Thanks Andrew, since you asked :)....cool but I could live without most of this but now I would like to see stuff that helps with the workflow...like real important fundamental stuff:
My top 3 dream features/addons:
1: shortcuts (like shift + T / shift + A ) to collapse/expand all or selected tracks take lanes / automation lanes, if no track selected/active, these shortcut will effect all tracks that have takelanes & automation lanes.... This one is a real pain as it is now, becaus there is no way to collapse/expand them at once, only way is to one track at time, current functionallity forces me to keep all tracks takelanes/automation lanes open and i have many tracks with take/automation lanes, it looks sooo messy, have to scroll up snd down alot to navigate thru the tracks... Please make this feature
2: more visible highlighted active track/ selected track needed. Its hard too see an active track in track view and console view, its impossible to find/see the the active track right now and also see same track in console view easily (I run on 2 screens, console view on 2'nd screen) , workaround now is if you solo the track in track view, the way to find the same track in console view is look for which track is solo'ed (green (S)) So, a more visible highlighted track (whole track/console track ) would be awesome, as it is now, a blue track name background color is really not enough... This one could be customizeable in options menu, how visible highlight, what areas and so on...
3: better difference between take lanes and regular tracks, they look the same..
Small features but with big positive workflow impact IMHO
Maybe these features won't sell new sonar copies but these will make me (or other users) stay with sonar.....Think about that...
(Don't tell me to feature request these, already did, no effect :( )
Thanks for reading...
...and Andrew, please respond to this, (I wrote all this on my phone, do you know how hard it is to write this much on a phone? :)) thanks
Thanks for the feedback. Will definitely pass along. We love to read people's feedback, good or bad, so keep it coming.
yes yes, wohoo! :) thanks for replying and for passing along Andrew :) this made me very happy now :D I hope I wasnt rude in my post, my intention is only well, Sonar is in good shape, thanks for the hard work dev team and everyone involved, but like we all know, there is always room for improovements, thanks again...
post edited by orhanproject - 2015/06/23 12:16:58
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 17:53:14
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orhanproject
mdages I would like to see more improvements and features on the core side of the Sonar programm instead of plugin development and fx-chains. My instruments, sounds or fx are already covered by the current sonar or good 3rd party plugins.
The features forum is full on good requests of core Sonar features to enhance workflow and usabilty and it will be more day by day. I would wish that more attention is paid to these user requests.
_Markus
Agree 100%
I see it like - Platinum is the version that brings the most moneywise to Cakewalk. So content and plugins is what differentiates Platinum from the rest - also in expectations from users. As Artist user I would love to see general improvements on core Sonar DAW - but also understand the facts of life of a business. So I think we need to accept that plugins and content is what is happening the most. But when it comes to fixes of core daw we all can expect equal treatment.
We are constantly working on core improvements and enhancements to SONAR in general. That's something we will continue to do and should make SONAR even better. A lot of people ask why this model is so much more beneficial to the end user, and it's because we don't have to switch to a new version and abandon the current one. The constant focus on the core will be so much better both short and long term. Also, Platinum includes some integrated solutions that really make it stand out. Yes, there are other third party drum replacement and vocal alignment solutions (and yes they can be pricey) but none of them are as elegantly integrated into the program as ours (in my opinion). This is a huge advantage in terms of workflow. And we'll continue to refine these features based on your feedback.
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Andrew Rossa
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 17:53:36
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orhanproject
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orhanproject Thanks Andrew, since you asked :)....cool but I could live without most of this but now I would like to see stuff that helps with the workflow...like real important fundamental stuff:
My top 3 dream features/addons:
1: shortcuts (like shift + T / shift + A ) to collapse/expand all or selected tracks take lanes / automation lanes, if no track selected/active, these shortcut will effect all tracks that have takelanes & automation lanes.... This one is a real pain as it is now, becaus there is no way to collapse/expand them at once, only way is to one track at time, current functionallity forces me to keep all tracks takelanes/automation lanes open and i have many tracks with take/automation lanes, it looks sooo messy, have to scroll up snd down alot to navigate thru the tracks... Please make this feature
2: more visible highlighted active track/ selected track needed. Its hard too see an active track in track view and console view, its impossible to find/see the the active track right now and also see same track in console view easily (I run on 2 screens, console view on 2'nd screen) , workaround now is if you solo the track in track view, the way to find the same track in console view is look for which track is solo'ed (green (S)) So, a more visible highlighted track (whole track/console track ) would be awesome, as it is now, a blue track name background color is really not enough... This one could be customizeable in options menu, how visible highlight, what areas and so on...
3: better difference between take lanes and regular tracks, they look the same..
Small features but with big positive workflow impact IMHO
Maybe these features won't sell new sonar copies but these will make me (or other users) stay with sonar.....Think about that...
(Don't tell me to feature request these, already did, no effect :( )
Thanks for reading...
...and Andrew, please respond to this, (I wrote all this on my phone, do you know how hard it is to write this much on a phone? :)) thanks
Thanks for the feedback. Will definitely pass along. We love to read people's feedback, good or bad, so keep it coming.
yes yes, wohoo! :) thanks for replying and for passing along Andrew :) this made me very happy now :D I hope I wasnt rude in my post, my intention is only well, Sonar is in good shape, thanks for the hard work dev team and everyone involved, but like we all know, there is always room for improovements, thanks again...
No problem. Thanks for your feedback.
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orhanproject
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 19:39:20
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk]
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mdages I would like to see more improvements and features on the core side of the Sonar programm instead of plugin development and fx-chains. My instruments, sounds or fx are already covered by the current sonar or good 3rd party plugins.
The features forum is full on good requests of core Sonar features to enhance workflow and usabilty and it will be more day by day. I would wish that more attention is paid to these user requests.
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Agree 100%
I see it like - Platinum is the version that brings the most moneywise to Cakewalk. So content and plugins is what differentiates Platinum from the rest - also in expectations from users. As Artist user I would love to see general improvements on core Sonar DAW - but also understand the facts of life of a business. So I think we need to accept that plugins and content is what is happening the most. But when it comes to fixes of core daw we all can expect equal treatment.
We are constantly working on core improvements and enhancements to SONAR in general. That's something we will continue to do and should make SONAR even better. A lot of people ask why this model is so much more beneficial to the end user, and it's because we don't have to switch to a new version and abandon the current one. The constant focus on the core will be so much better both short and long term. Also, Platinum includes some integrated solutions that really make it stand out. Yes, there are other third party drum replacement and vocal alignment solutions (and yes they can be pricey) but none of them are as elegantly integrated into the program as ours (in my opinion). This is a huge advantage in terms of workflow. And we'll continue to refine these features based on your feedback.
I must say that I love the integration part of stuff happening... Many years ago I used to run melodyne standalone (before they made plugin version) together with sonar in the background synced up, it could be tricky but it worked, then they made the plugin version which I switched to and melodyne'ing stuff became little easier but when melodyne plugin got integrated in sonar, just hitting CTRL+M on an audio clip, yeah!, that was pure magic moment for me :)
post edited by orhanproject - 2015/06/23 19:47:00
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 20:28:37
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Andrew Rossa [Cakewalk] Yes, there are other third party drum replacement and vocal alignment solutions (and yes they can be pricey) but none of them are as elegantly integrated into the program as ours (in my opinion). This is a huge advantage in terms of workflow.
It really is. I mentioned this in a thread just after the last update, but I used Drum Replacer on a dodgy kick drum recording and had that mix signed off by the band three days after Drum Replacer was released. Almost no learning curve at all. It was so well integrated, sonar-esque, and well-realised, it just slipped straight into the working process. In the interests of balance, I will say I've not had as good an experience with VocalSync, which I find perhaps too simple for its own good. For that kind of work, I think I'd still rather take the long way round and use some combination of edits and audio snap.
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 21:02:58
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Plt is improving. It has been more reliable for the most part recently and I can now focus on creating. When I started using it, it was so unreliable that I had to use X3 because of all the 'stop working' issues. So aside from the new things added, I appreciate the stability the most. I can now try out the new stuff, without worrying about losing it if I had to open it in X3. Melodyne usage has improved but it still freezing the system and/or throwing my audio drivers out. I'm using the editor and it still seems that I can only work on small sections at a time. So Bakers, please look into that. I also haven't loaded Rap Pro since it took 5 minutes to load. I hope this will be improved as well. Overall, it's good to see it wasn't my system causing initial stops, crashes and whatever else instability with Sonar. I like the current subscription model and these regular improvements. I agree with other posters about not needing all these extra toys - all the time. I'd be happy to just have a solid DAW. I'm liking Sonar again.
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BillWatkins
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/23 21:32:09
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I love what Cake is doing with these updates ! However I am still waiting for that button labeled 'Make a "Certifiable undeniable solid platinum number one smash!" ' Andrew tweeted me they were working on it, didn't you Andrew ? :) Best to everyone ! Bill- ps: we miss you Kevin... You left us way to soon !
post edited by BillWatkins - 2015/06/23 21:41:13
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Re: What's coming to SONAR
2015/06/24 01:00:04
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mdages I would like to see more improvements and features on the core side of the Sonar programm instead of plugin development and fx-chains. My instruments, sounds or fx are already covered by the current sonar or good 3rd party plugins.
FWIW improvements to the core program/features are independent of FX chains, expansion packs, and other content. Whether there are no FX chains or 100 FX chains doesn't affect SONAR's development, so you don't have to worry about content usurping core development. It's also a given that not all content will appeal to all people. For example those who already have an aural exciter emulation plug-in don't need the Sizzle Bus FX Chain, but it's useful for those who don't have an equivalent plug-in. Or, the CA-X amps take a different approach from other amp sims because they emulate "idealized" amps rather than a specific amp sound, so they provide something different instead of just duplicating other sim. The most important aspects to users are fixes and features; the content has always been a "bonus." However much of it has been quite popular, possibly because there's enough so that even if all of it isn't useful to someone, they'll find something that pertains to them. At least, that's the plan  .
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