BombayCharlie
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What's everybody switching to?
Hey, seems like we all need to switch. What is everyone switching to? Digital Performer? Studio One? Mixcraft?
Just curious.
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kevmsmith81
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 19:54:30
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I'm thinking Reaper. My first thought was Studio One but seeing as this is just a hobby for me, I can't justify the extra cost of Studio One. I'll need to carry on with SONAR for now as I can't afford any type of paid alternative right now. But I've heard many good things about Reaper and so it seems like a good choice.
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jude77
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 19:54:48
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I ended up with Studio One 3 because the crossgrade offer was so good. Magix is having a great sale on Sampletude as well, though I haven't bough that one. I also am taking a hard look at Reaper.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 19:58:26
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:06:49
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:09:11
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:09:35
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Studio One. Check out bapu's BeyondCakewalk forum. A lot of us joined. There's a subforum for many of the DAW choices. It'll be a good home when Gibson finally shuts this forum down. They had no interest in saving SONAR, so I have no doubt that they have also no interest in saving this forum. http://beyondcakewalk.com/forum/index.php
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:11:52
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:21:00
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Mixcraft Pro 8 and Sound Forge 11, because thy are both very easy to use and sound great. I bought lots of others but these two work the best on my computer. I will be using Digital Performer once in a while after I learn how to use it.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:24:44
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I have bought Cubase Pro because it appears to have the best MIDI features. I will learn it while continuing to use Sonar then at some point it will become my main DAW.
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jyoung60
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:45:43
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Reaper. The price is right and the software has lots to offer, even though it doesn't appear that way first glance. For my requirements, it beats Studio One or Cubase, the two others I tested. Waveform looked like a close one between it and Reaper, but it took me forever to figure out how to add a VSTi to tracks in Waveform. The acid test for me is to start using a new DAW right of the box without looking at a manual; see how far I can get on my own. Waveform took me the longest of the others I tested.
That being said, I'm using SONAR until I can't. Learning Reaper in the meantime.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 20:52:23
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jyoung60
The acid test for me is to start using a new DAW right of the box without looking at a manual; see how far I can get on my own.
That's how I approached my search. I don't do heavy midi editing or complex audio comping so I really just need get to the basic functions as quickly as possible.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 21:03:21
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Cubase was my first choice but had issues with the UI in the demo. So I bought Studio One. Then the Magix Samplitude Pro X3 Suite crazy deal came along and I bought that. That has turned out to be great for me, and Studio One has turned out to be a pretty useless waste of money.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 21:06:46
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jude77
jyoung60
The acid test for me is to start using a new DAW right of the box without looking at a manual; see how far I can get on my own.
That's how I approached my search. I don't do heavy midi editing or complex audio comping so I really just need get to the basic functions as quickly as possible.
I started with this approach then I hit a couple of things where I remembered the amount of time that I spent in the Sonar manual, not forgetting a copy of Sonar Power, to get them working. I agree that some things should be easy to do without the manual i.e. adding tracks, inserting effects, editing MIDI and Audio. A also accept that some things might require some reading of the manuals like setting up my external MIDI devices and adding a hardware controller. Things that I knew how to do in Sonar but were not actually that intuitive (IMHO).
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 21:09:06
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Studio One Pro 3 for the ARA integration (Melodyne). That's a must for my studio.
I was already sold on the features and reviews, but the way they reached out and made a special crossgrade offer just for us sealed the deal.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 21:28:27
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I ended up getting Studio One 3 Pro as my backup/way forward.
My priorities were ARA and Console 1 integration.
All the best.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 21:42:49
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 21:46:03
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Crossgrade to Cubase Pro 9.5. Very nice deal and Cubase is one of the most complete DAW's affordable.
Not as intuitive in Gui and Workflow like Sonar, but with the best in terms of functionality.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 21:56:19
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I'll use Sonar as long as possible.
I ' ll make use of the crossgrade offer for Studio one pro, just waiting for the message with Coupon code from Presonus.
Mixcraft 8 pro is interesting to me, too.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 22:02:15
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I chose Cubase Pro and am happy with it. The transition from Sonar was relatively easy but it did take a couple of days of intensive learning to get comfortable with it; There are a lot of great videos to assist you. I also find I am more productive with Cubase but this is just a personal observation.
Note: I switched to Cubase after many years with Sonar instead of opting for the "Lifetime Membership" when it was first offered. I wanted better MIDI editing than Sonar. Also, something didn't feel right about the change in membership payment policy. Gibson seemed to be requiring more money for the promise of a future product. Looking back on it, the change in policy was probably sounding the death knell for Sonar. It is too bad Gibson didn't find a buyer though.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 22:09:42
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Got the Cubase 9.5 Pro Crossgrade. Great DAW and not so fierce as I feared.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 22:26:37
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I've been with Sonar since Sonar 3. Now sing Splat pro.
Why would I just dump the program now? As long as it records and plays back midi and wav files, and houses my VST's, what else do I need? I'm going to kick the can down the road. By the time I want to upgrade DAW programs, it will probably be S1 v6-7 or Cubase 16 :)
I'd rather spend my time making music than fussing with something new I have to figure out.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 22:33:27
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What you choose to replace SONAR is likely to depend on how you use SONAR. SONAR became over the years a massive Swiss army knife in an attempt to offer something to everyone while chasing every type of musician/engineer they could corral as a new user. Ultimately the strategy failed, but in the meantime the application came to be used by different users in so many different ways that there is no standard user. Many people used it primarily as a multitrack recorder, and could probably be happy with Audacity or some other much less complex DAW. Some people used it for loop based MIDI construction. My own primary use was linear (non-looping) MIDI, which use had not really been a priority of development in recent years. Nonetheless, it is still outstanding in the field for that use. The crossgrade to Cubase is looking attractive to me at this point.
At any rate, without some idea of how users actually used SONAR, this discussion of what people are switching to can be pretty misleading if it is intended to serve as guidance to naïve switchers.
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TemplesGateStudio
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 22:50:34
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I haven't decidede 100% yet but my 3 options are:
1. Studio One 3: the leader right now. Pretty easy to switch too. Seems to have what I need...and pretty stable and solid. The support over there at Presonus seems spot on.
2. Pro Tools: I have 12.5 which is where my "license" ended. I got it "free" with an Eleven Rack (which is a nice bit o' kit). But I never used it because of Sonar. The workflow isn't TOO far removed from Sonar.. and seems easy enough.. but it's be wrestling with me to get it to run (required a full format/reinstall of Windows due to it.. and iLok throwing fits on Install).. it's crashed a few times.. but I'm giving it a shot because it's "the standard DAW" and the Cloud Collabation does seem pretty badass. Not sure I'll fork over any more money to them. I'm still experimenting with Mac OS..
3. MixBus 4: got it for the deal they offered in the Sonar aftermath.. got to play with it.. and downloaded a project full of tracks and imported it.. It actually sounded great.. and was very "linear" in it's workflow. It's literally sitting at a console.. except when you decide to edit then it's a interface similar to PT, Sonar, etc.. It works in Linux and the license covers all 3 OS's.. =) If my interface works in Linux.. might be a winner!
That's my 3 cents (inflation).
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/10 23:46:41
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I been using Reaper for a while anyhow since from X3. The resources for learning Sonar were an added cost and worth it to get a real grip on using it.
Compared to PRotools where there are oddles of videos on it on youtube.
X3 still works but the idea of Reaper and it's price sold me on it after I noticed lots of youtube tutorials on it.
I got to say I bought Mixbus for$29 as it was cheap and I am very tempted to return to my first real DAW, Samplitude. That deal atm is incredible.
But how many DAWs does one need and how easy is it to learn it is a consideration.
X3 still works fine.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/11 00:42:49
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2017/12/11 02:19:42
The only DAW I didn't have that I bought recently after hearing about Gibson Dropping Cakewalk is Studio One 3 Pro . I have a feeling that I may miss certain features I use in SONAR . I'm trying to keep an open mind because I have already noticed S O P 3 has features I already have seen ( but not learned ) that will offset the differences  As a Samp user I recently upgraded my Samplitude Pro X 2 Standard to Pro X 3 Suite ...the deal came w some real nice SONY content I didn't have SpectralLayers & Sound Forge ... Both of these deals were just too good to pass up I still use SONAR & pretty much Love SPlat ..that's not gonna change ... Some of the other DAW's SONAR users are trying out and demoing I already had ... They were gotten during a time when they were either on sale or when I had the money to spend ... No emotional distress concerning the recent fate of Cakewalk was involved .. Outside of SONAR so far these are my keepers ... I Love Mixbus 4 , I'm a Mixbus user since 2 .5 , ...I don't currently have the need to pick up MB 32 ... I enjoy what Tracktion Waveform 8 brings to the table a lot ..I started out w T5 , then T7 ... I got my Reaper license a year and a half ago ... I'm a slow starter w Reaper , sort of a tough learning curve in a way for me but I do like what I have been able to accomplish with Reaper for so far...the program is very deep , runs great on my lap tops , and I can see why people become evangelistic about its capabilities ... I also enjoy using Mixcraft 8 Pro..I started w Mixcraft 7 Pro last year and I upgraded to MC 8 because I really like the improvements they have made since MC 7 ... I do like Logic a lot ...yet , lately I'm spending most of my time using a PC ... I have a lighter version of Cubase on my Mac ...I never seemed to gel w it ...my fault ...I do have the e licenser on that computer but not the motivation to demo Cubase ... I may consider bumping up from Live 9 intro to Standard ....I do like using the program even w intros limitations it is just a little to rich in price for my blood to upgraded .... that's it for now , anything else like BIAB , Transcribe or i Real Band I use for my musical growth and education to either keep up my chops ..or to go and get some .. all the best, Kenny
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/11 01:18:16
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I'm expading my use to Bitwig Studio and Studio One.
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/11 02:53:15
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If sonar fails at some point I still have Studio One 3 , all of the Mixbus DAW versions. I just bought the Samplitude deal and i bought Reaper. Out of them all I am really liking Reaper but they all have something good to bring to the table.
I'm thinking I will record in Reaper, mix in Samplitude because I like the way it handles plugins, run the mix through Mixbus 32C for it's flavor and complete a CD in Studio One.
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jude77
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Re: What's everybody switching to?
2017/12/11 03:16:40
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anydmusic
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The acid test for me is to start using a new DAW right of the box without looking at a manual; see how far I can get on my own.
That's how I approached my search. I don't do heavy midi editing or complex audio comping so I really just need get to the basic functions as quickly as possible.
I started with this approach then I hit a couple of things where I remembered the amount of time that I spent in the Sonar manual, not forgetting a copy of Sonar Power, to get them working.
I agree that some things should be easy to do without the manual i.e. adding tracks, inserting effects, editing MIDI and Audio. A also accept that some things might require some reading of the manuals like setting up my external MIDI devices and adding a hardware controller. Things that I knew how to do in Sonar but were not actually that intuitive (IMHO).
That's a very good point. I'm willing to hunker down with a manual, I just don't want to have to do it from the get-to.
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