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What's the killer reverb to have?
I want to get a great reverb plugin but there are so many to choose from. Money not being an option one way or the other, which reverb plugin would you guys pick? Do you have more than one on your wish list? In what order would you rate them...1,2,3...etc.?
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 09:08:51
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/12/02 10:10:43
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 09:12:54
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Those are all certainly good, and Larry's (Lars?) list is a great start. It's also about 1/10th of Bapu's arsenal, so he'd be good to ask. you might also look at Breeze, it's $125 right now but sale price is usually $75, which I think makes it a steal. xmas is coming . . . - Tom
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 09:49:17
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I am not a Pro but I know what I like. I have tested and demoed all sorts of algo reverb and at the end I think 2Caudio's Aether is the best. 2Caudio also make the cheaper Breeze. They always have sale around Chrismas so it is anytime now.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 09:57:45
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Here we go again! I have the LXP, the IK CSR, obviously every thing that comes with SPlat, and have demoed them all; ad nauseum! Currently I'm using the Melda Convoluter. I'm pretty happy with that. YMMV, T
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/12/02 10:22:27
amiller Money not being an option one way or the other,
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 10:40:48
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Ever wonder why everyone has more than one reverb? Even SONAR bundles more than one. It's because each has individual quirks that might it better suited than another for a specific application. There is no single "super reverb" that does it all (e.g. accurate emulation of physical spaces or vintage hardware, regenerative feedback, extensive modulation options, advanced filtering, stereo field placement, separate L/R processing, etc.). Whichever reverb is ideal is therefore largely dependent on how you intend to use it (gentle cohesion, smoothing vocals, increasing live-ness of instruments, special effects such as reverse reverb, matching a room, widening, spacey effects). FabFilter's new reverb, Pro-R, looks interesting because it has a few tricks that are unique. But it'll take some convincing before I buy it, simply because I already have sufficient options to meet my needs.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2016/12/02 11:10:16
I would propose an adjustment to the question. Something like: if you where starting over with no reverbs purchased what 3 would you buy and why? There is also a bit of "the best reverb is...wait, another new one came out and I've heard that's the best". The one no brainer is Valhalla Hall. Start there.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 15:43:57
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If I was starting over from scratch and could only buy three reverbs, I'd probably grab three of the Valhalla verbs (Hall, Plate and Vintage). Between them, they cover a lot of ground, don't cost much, and sound awesome. Also, the PhoenixVerb is total no brainer, IMHO - especially at its current price. I bought Phoenix's big brother Nimbus, when it was at its into pricing, and it is the best verb I've used.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 16:48:34
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☄ Helpfulby abacab 2016/12/02 19:50:10
I have too many reverbs installed on my PC to list here, but most of the time I use (very sparingly) ProChannel BReverb for ambience and ReMatrix for reverb with "tails".
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 17:40:46
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/12/02 18:49:05
What's the killer reverb to have? Awluvum. It's expensive but you'll never doubt your reverb choice again.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 17:43:08
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emeraldsoul Those are all certainly good, and Larry's (Lars?) list is a great start. It's also about 1/10th of Bapu's arsenal, so he'd be good to ask. you might also look at Breeze, it's $125 right now but sale price is usually $75, which I think makes it a steal. xmas is coming . . . - Tom
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 17:43:48
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Oh, I know. BF Budget has been met (and exceeded).
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 18:22:43
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amiller Money not being an option one way or the other, which reverb plugin would you guys pick?
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 19:06:17
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Err, how about an old school Tapco 4400
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
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☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2016/12/03 11:08:02
Waves H-Reverb is amazing. But has a learning curve and is a CPU hog. Sparkverb and Rematrix are both killer diller. UAD's EMT 140 and EMT 250 are must haves. And for other-worldly spaces and ambiences it's Blackhole and Eos. But I'm really loving the new Slate Suite.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 20:15:56
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Was listening to an ancient Yardbirds vid with Jimmy Page. He had a mechanical spring reverb. One knob for intensity. Way better than what I could do with anything available. Reflecting on Bit's good advice that if you are wanting small spaces, shorter ambiances, doesn't matter what you go with, they all do the same thing. The long lush stuff, the technological field is as wide open as the credit card is deep. Will not replace or even augment raw creative power and inspiration, but if any of us got the money to spend, lots of takers for a short weekend thrill...(Ilok not included...) John
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 21:39:54
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If I could only keep one it would be Valhallavintageverb. Luckily I can have several.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 21:50:22
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I own Lexicon MPX, IK's CSR, Eventide' StereoRoom, Waves Renaissance Reverb and TrueVerb and Valhalla. My most used is/are... by and large, the ones that come free with my DAW (Space Designer in particular). Same when I was working with Sonar - Sonitus were my go-to plug-ins - and I especially liked the reverb. Each of the other ones mentioned above can be useful. If I had to pick one, I'd probably go with Valhalla. That being said, I don't use reverb half as much as I used to - I've never bothered to try any of those fancy reverbs that people are buying these days. The only one I'm quasi curious about is Waves' Abbey Road Plate.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/02 23:12:24
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dmbaer Algorithmic: Fab Filter Pro R - I am smitten. +1
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 11:09:56
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yorolpal And for other-worldly spaces and ambiences it's Blackhole and Eos.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 11:27:30
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As others have said, the "best" reverb is the one that helps you get the sound you're looking for (a crooner like Michael Buble probably wouldn't need the same type of reverb as a death metal band). With that said SONAR comes bundled with several reverbs that are quite good. Start there and see if any of them are on the right track. Good luck with your search!
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 12:32:58
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As Bit said it's good to have a wide range of reverbs because they're all so different and I don't think there is one which will shine in every situation. And in selecting a wide range of reverbs don't forget to check out some of the cheap or free ones too. Sometimes a "cheap and nasty" reverb fits the music more than an expensive one. On a few occasions I have found myself using some of the "cheap" reverbs you get with Guitar Rig because they worked better than the Valhalla reverbs I use on most other occasions. And sometimes the inbuilt reverb on synths is exactly what you want too, so when applying reverb to synth patches don't be afraid to stay within the synth itself. Do you have the full version of Reaktor? If so then check out the Reaktor user library for free reverbs because there are some really unique sounds in there. Reaktor ships with a great one called Spacemaster 2 which is fantastic for huge, futuristic spaces. Check out Boscomac's free Reaktor ensembles because there are a couple of great verbs in there including an amazing spring reverb.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 12:47:03
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Okay I love the shimmer, and I just looked at Valhalla last week. I was afraid I could not effectively use it. Are there presets for speed freaks like me? I am looking mostly for vocals and drums and I suppose guitars. I agree that a better question would have been to specify use but the TOP THREE is great as well so. since I don't have any of those mentioned except rematrix and I also have QL Spaces which I think is the most pro sounding one I have and it has great presets. I only want one right now? I used to love the SPX90 and I like the eventide samples I have heard. Should I get vallhala, its couterpart black hole? or the melda stuff? I just saw that stuff today for the first time. If I get some melda stuff or valhalla, you guys may have to show me how to get up to speed on the controls hehe. I was born to use presets.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 12:51:55
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sharke As Bit said it's good to have a wide range of reverbs because they're all so different and I don't think there is one which will shine in every situation. And in selecting a wide range of reverbs don't forget to check out some of the cheap or free ones too. Sometimes a "cheap and nasty" reverb fits the music more than an expensive one.
These are good words. Cheap doesn't mean bad, and expensive doesn't mean good. A great example are the Vallhala units. They're very affordable and sound great.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 12:59:10
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Everyone has their favorites, and you'll need to do your homework, but here are my current go-to reverb tools:
Reverberate - my sole convolution reverb, and I'd use it even more if I didn't always get lost in the rabbit warren that is the settings pages. Really my biggest complaint about all the convolution reverbs I've tried is the mind-boggling number of settings, not to mention IR files! UAD AKG BX-20 - wow, just picked this up last week, kicking myself for not getting it a long time ago. And I should know better, I still have a spring reverb in the rack that I used to use a lot, the BX-20 will probably replace it. UAD EMT Plate 140 - if I had to use only one reverb this would probably be it. UAD Lexicon 224 - no, I still have no idea how to REALLY use it, second only to Reverberate in the category of too many things to tweak, but it sounds gorgeous! UAD Ocean Way - not strictly a reverb I suppose, but it does some magic! This ends up on nearly every track I write. Eventide 2016 - makes everything sound pretty, probably the easiest reverb I own. Eventide Black Hole - mostly for special effects, but it is cool! Zynaptiq Adaptiverb - I expected this to be a sound design tool, but it works well on any source. I'm still figuring it out, but I am certain this is one I want to learn.
Exponential Audio Nimbus - newest addition, the rails rival the best hardware out there, but it is complex, and getting a reverb that works in the mix is not (yet) second nature for me. I find myself overdoing it most of the time, but when I finally get it right (usually on the entire mix) it is glorious! Camel Audio CamelSpace - pretty much a sound design reverb, or at least that's how I use it. It is, sadly, no longer available and I am weaning myself off it. Wizzoverb - I had to stop using this, authorization did not survive the last system upgrade. And I do miss it. Recently I've been experimenting with placement tools, which are closely related to reverbs, and while I have yet to choose one I'd suggest them to anyone interested in placing performers in the sound stage. They are certainly much faster than playing with Early Reflections, pre-delay, and tails! I'm trying Eareverb and VSS.
I should also admit that I still use hardware reverb, a Lexicon PCM-90 and an LXP-1 (and LXP-5). I could probably ditch the LXPs for their plugins, but the PCM-90 still sounds better (to me).
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 13:26:13
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papacucku Okay I love the shimmer, and I just looked at Valhalla last week. I was afraid I could not effectively use it. Are there presets for speed freaks like me?
Valhalla reverbs come with a ton of presets, especially Valhalla Room.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 14:45:16
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Exponential Audio's Phoenix Verb is extremely nice. The creator (Michael Carnes) is the man behind many of the classic Lexicon hardware reverbs. IMO, The sound is significantly better than Lexicon's PCM bundle.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 16:11:21
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Jim Roseberry Exponential Audio's Phoenix Verb is extremely nice. The creator (Michael Carnes) is the man behind many of the classic Lexicon hardware reverbs. IMO, The sound is significantly better than Lexicon's PCM bundle.
It looks like Exponential has a newer product named Nimbus ... I think it's a newer version of Phoenix.
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Re: What's the killer reverb to have?
2016/12/03 20:05:56
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Phoenixverb sounds beautiful, and what a great price too. It's a pity it requires a physical iLok otherwise I'd jump on it. I found this example video on YouTube. Around 50 seconds of dry recording followed by some of the large space presets. They sound very natural and musical. Oh and what a great stereo guitar recording, absolutely perfect!
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