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2017/03/11 02:24:30 (permalink)

What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files?

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Windows 10 seems to think it's their new, half-baked, Edge browser evidently.  I keep setting it to Adobe Acrobat Reader and it keeps resetting it back to Edge after a little while... 
 
I think it's time to figure out how to uninstall Edge again. 
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/11 02:28:38 (permalink)
you have something a miss, pdf have always opened with adobe on all my windows 10 machines without need for constant intervention or uninstalling anything
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/11 02:51:25 (permalink)
I set the default back to acrobat a while ago and all has been fine since...

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/11 06:30:33 (permalink)
I often get the message that something was wrong and a file association was reset.  This ALWAYS means that a file association I've set to an application I really want to use (say Faststone Maxview for images) gets reset to the program Windows 10 came with (in this case Photo Viewer).  Same thing with music, I want Media Monkey, it resets to it's horrible Groove Music program.
 
I finally did a search and uninstalled most of these new apps that came with Windows 10 (and found I certainly was NOT alone with this issue).  Tonight I disabled Edge - holy crap what a PITA that was!

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/11 13:32:37 (permalink)
MS has integrated Edge into Win10 and wants it to replace IE.
 
If you're using wifi, set the connection to metered so windows doesn't make automatic changes or updates. Then set Adobe Reader as default for pdfs. Edge insists on being the default for URL:microsoft-edge and URL:read. I have not been able to disable it and doing so may cause other issues. All other file types go to IE or Chrome and Adobe Reader. Been working without a hitch so far.
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/11 13:36:03 (permalink)
I ditched Acrobat a long time ago.  I've had the free version of PDF-XChange Editor for a few months.  Waaaaay better to me.
 
Anyway, there is a setting somewhere that determines whether PDF links get opened in the browser or not.

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/11 13:40:46 (permalink)
Go to Settings > Default Apps > Set defaults by app
 
Select Adobe Reader (or whatever) > Choose defaults...  and select all file types there
 
Select Microsoft Edge > Choose defaults...  and deselect everything there
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/11 17:42:06 (permalink)
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I ditched Acrobat a long time ago.  I've had the free version of PDF-XChange Editor for a few months.  Waaaaay better to me.
 
Anyway, there is a setting somewhere that determines whether PDF links get opened in the browser or not.




Actually, there was a Chrome update last week which changed that exact setting so I had to fix a few client computers.  It's under the Advanced Settings, in the Content area at the bottom where it says "Open PDF's in the default viewer."  Counter-intuitively, if you check this box, it will try to save the PDF file to disk instead of opening it in Chrome's PDF viewer.
 
Acrobat X and XI no longer work correctly, so I always install Adobe Acrobat Reader DC on client computers (https://get.adobe.com/reader).

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 01:06:39 (permalink)
 
It happens to me too Craig - every few weeks or so.
 
I reset the default program to Adobe Reader each time but it doesn't seem to stick.
 
 

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 03:12:46 (permalink)
I have this on one of my Win 10 machines ..to me it seems pretty nice ...not sure if it's what you want .
https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/
 
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 04:45:43 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/03/12 15:32:57
It's not so much what I want Kenny, it's what I don't want:  Windows 10's new (but crappy) default programs! 

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 14:58:12 (permalink)
I've had to reset the pdf file association a few times, too.
 
Windows has become rather intrusive and arrogant, IMO. It really wants me to use Edge. It really wants me to use the immortal Cortana. I finally gave in and let Edge be my pdf reader. Resistance is futile.


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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 15:33:25 (permalink)
craigb
It's not so much what I want Kenny, it's what I don't want:  Windows 10's new (but crappy) default programs! 




This ^^^

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 15:41:08 (permalink)
If Dave has "given up" fighting Win 10, I just can't wait to upgrade!
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 15:53:15 (permalink)
 
 
in any case , + 1 on the This ^^^.
 
I'm not a fan of Win 10 to be honest ...it works well for music .That I will give it . My RUB is  Win 10  is way too pushy and aggressive for me to like it as an OS ...
It's just like having somebody's mother in law moving in on me full time while bossing me around from High Noon until Midnight .... nagging me to death telling me what I can and can not do on my own computer ..
 
I'm not the fastest gun in the West over here . When I want to open up a PDF I just right click it and choose the program I want to open it
 
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 16:37:30 (permalink)
I'm slowly getting to agreeable terms with my new Win10 Pro DAW.  I have all of the cute apps disabled - took forever to make Groove go away for good.
 
I have had 2 cases though where I sat down to do something quick, but Windows had my entire network consumed doing downloads.  This is with Defer selected.  It's worse with my Win10 Home laptop. 
 
The initial setup on both totally crippled my 3.5Mb downlink for nearly 2 days each getting caught up.
 
This is my last major gripe about 10 - it's otherwise a better performer than 8.1, which was better than the XP box I had before that.
 
If M$ doesn't relax on this download what/when/where it wants approach, I'll end up having to disable the NIC during times I don't want to be interrupted.

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 17:05:00 (permalink)
 
I did find this Craig, it looks a little technical for me but you know your way round a PC 
 
  1. Tap on the Windows-key, type regedit.exe and hit the Enter-key. This opens the Windows Registry Editor. If you can, open a second Registry window for easier handling of the following operations.
  2. Navigate to the following key: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\AppModel\Repository\Packages
  3. Locate the application you want to block from being the default, and open App\Capabilities\FileAssociations there. This displays the list of file associations of that particular application.
  4. Take note of the value in Data, it looks like a long random string: AppXsq3757nydv3f9bx6862hv0t4z7ennqqd
  5. Please note that this string may be different for any of the file types or protocols listed there.
  6. Switch to the second Registry Editor window, and go to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Classes\ThatRandomString, e.g. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Classes\AppXsq3757nydv3f9bx6862hv0t4z7ennqqd
  7. Right-click on it, and select New > String Value.
  8. Name it NoOpenWith, and keep its value empty.

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 17:06:50 (permalink)
 
 
THIS look similar.

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/12 17:25:03 (permalink)
Yeah, I went into the registry and removed several of the programs (Photo Viewer and Groove Music for example), but Edge had to be handled differently.  I changed ownership on the system files for Edge, then changed the security on those files, then changed them to read-only and finally renamed the two executables as *.old.  *Phew!*  WAY too much work, but it's done!
 
(Don't get me started on when Windows 10 updates during the middle of the night without warning while I've got some heavy processing going on and I wake up to a lot of corruption to deal with!!!  )

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/17 09:38:06 (permalink)
With Metered Connection in wifi there IS no windows update (including Edge) unless I say there is. And I've had no issues with anything lately... not like I did before metering.
 
No need to disable Edge. I simply don't use it and have "undefaulted" it from everything as stated above. As much as I hate IE, it's the only browser that works most everything the way I like so I use it.
 
Defender has been doing a pretty good job so far, so I won't be renewing Norton either.
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/17 16:35:06 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2017/03/18 17:33:22
I don't get the trend of these dumbed down browsers or maybe it's me that's dumb because I still like the menus on Firefox and IE.

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/18 04:15:53 (permalink)
For a complete "dumbed down" experience try a Google Chrome Book.  Most if not all don't even have a delete button.
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/18 04:51:21 (permalink)
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For a complete "dumbed down" experience try a Google Chrome Book.  Most if not all don't even have a delete button.




I'm coming to the conclusion developer and moron are synonymous outside the DAW/Video world.

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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/18 07:00:10 (permalink)
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With Metered Connection in wifi there IS no windows update (including Edge) unless I say there is. And I've had no issues with anything lately... not like I did before metering.
 
 
Defender has been doing a pretty good job so far, so I won't be renewing Norton either.




Yes, I did the same thing , setting my 2 Win 10 laptops to a metered connection ...
The last time they tried to shove an update down my throat was in July of last year
Defender seems pretty good ... I do updates for that manually at the time of my choosing  ..
 
 
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Re: What's the most appropriate app to open .PDF files? 2017/03/18 07:30:43 (permalink)
ESET has definitely been a notch above all of the other A/V's I've had to deal with.  I've had to clean up issues for clients using AVG, AVAST, Norton, Symantec and the Micro$oft stuff, but not one issue with ESET (which is why it's the one I use on my computers and laptops for the last several years - and I go ALL over the place!). 

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