When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2

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2012/10/27 02:16:51 (permalink)

When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2

I've got 16 Gig of ram ,,,,, It shouldn't be a problem ..... Doesn't seem anyone has a solution for this yet. I Really like V Vocal when it works ...... Oh well ''' break out the Melodyne ,,,,, It works great anyway.
 
 
 
 
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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/27 03:40:04 (permalink)
    Please list your FULL system specs in your signature.

    We don't have a clue what you're running.

    Oh, V-Vocal works perfectly here in X1 and X2

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/27 03:54:10 (permalink)
    are you bouncing to clips ?? v vocal is an off line processor, alot of people dont realise that , and try to load multiple instances and things like that
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/27 03:56:20 (permalink)
    Chregg, I've been using multiple instances of V-V since version 6PE without a problem.

    And I'm not talking 1 or 2 - I've had as many as 60/70 all live without issue

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/27 04:02:50 (permalink)
    "Chregg, I've been using multiple instances of V-V since version 6PE without a problem. " know wat it is Jonesey, most problems i see with the v vocal on here is not boucing to clip, but if your running that many with out boucing to clip then god knows, ive never had any problems with the v vocal myself
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/27 04:15:06 (permalink)
    So it's not just me then 


    I was doing this on my old DAW (Q6700 under Win XP32 with 2Gb RAM)

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/27 14:31:56 (permalink)
    I'm running Win 7   64 bit i7 16 Gig ram  , I can say that it works on small projects but big projects It will crash on just one single instance on a very short clip .  I've read alot of older post but no solid solutions yet.  
     
     
     
     
     
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/29 06:59:12 (permalink)
    Yep - I had huge issues with VV.  When I went to X2 I uninstalled everything, including all the previous versions of Sonar, and it now seems to be working ok.  It was working for a while in 8.5, but once it went that was it - crash everytime it was invoked.

    I only use it now on small (1 possibly 2) bars, and complete the whole thing, including bouncing to clip and then removing the original (the clips sit on top of eachother) before starting another instance.  And these are not large projects.

    I know there are people who seem to have little issue, and right now it's working for me.  However, I would maintain that V-V flies pretty close to the edge, and it doesn't take a lot to make it fail.

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/29 08:24:25 (permalink)
     I have had a few problems with V Vocal in the past and to be honest do not use it very often...........but I pulled it in to an X2 project I started recently, messed about with it a bit and BANG..... my first crash in X2, which has really been rock solid, since installing........I agree with the OP and the previous post, I think it has a few stabilty issues
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/29 12:41:25 (permalink)
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    Oh, V-Vocal works perfectly here in X1 and X2

    Has never worked for me in X1 nor X2.
     
    had a CWBRN 'submitted to development' after CW were able to replicate my problems.
    that was months (if not years) ago.
     
    I suggest the OP submits a report too.
     

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/29 13:29:57 (permalink)
    I wonder if it has somthing to do with previous versions of Sonar already installed ...I hate to do a complete clean and reinstall and find the same problem and loose all those old plugins that aren't included with Sonar anymore .... I tried to delete the extra AUD ini folders too.

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/29 19:22:50 (permalink)
    It's definitely an issue.  Has crashed for me on 3 separate pc's and 2 different operating systems through the years. You can't leave v-vocal live on a clip - you've got to get out and bounce it right away.  I almost never have a problem if I do that.  The last time it crashed was about a month ago - it started crashing every time I opened it.  After a re-boot the problem went away.  It is a temperamental plug-in and when it starts acting up it is very difficult to figure out why.

    Some people I guess never have a problem, but I've seen complaints about it over the years to realize it is not just me or my pc setup.
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/29 19:27:02 (permalink)
    yeah...its got so much potential...but seems to be put together pretty horribly.  i can only think that cakewalk is not fixing it becauae they plan to move on to Melodyne intergration, like Studi One (brilliantly done btw, i use it frequently)

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/30 03:01:18 (permalink)
    Several years of using VVocal from Sonar 8.5 to X2 and it still crashes repeatedly.  Two different computer set ups, same issues.  Even bouncing down immediately after fixing a clip is not reliable, because it will simply crash when you insert it.

    Sometimes I have had luck importing the problem vocal files into a blank project and fixing them there.  Not ideal, but you know, desperate times, desperate measures..


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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/30 03:55:34 (permalink)
    I used to be a fan of VV, but the crashes at certain times were just too much. I paid a couple of hundred for Melodyne and have never looked back. It has its own set of quirks, but crashes are a thing of the past when working vocal correction. And by the way, Melodyne is 1000 times better software.
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/30 07:25:37 (permalink)
    bigboi


    i can only think that cakewalk is not fixing it becauae they plan to move on to Melodyne intergration, like Studi One (brilliantly done btw, i use it frequently)
    That would be great.  I still use VV even with intermitent crashes because 1) I don't use vocal correction that much, and 2) I love the way it is integrated into Sonar - just a Shift+V and it opens.  I'm not sure how melodyne works, but if I had to insert it as an effect to each track that is needed, it would be too much of a hassle.  Is that the way it works? 
     
    My theory on why they don't fix it is that this I beleive it was written by Roland with different developers, probably in a different country and with possibly different programming language.  It is very complex programming and Cake probably says "We aren't going to touch that code".  Roland may not even give Cakewalk access to the code.  I may be totally wrong though....
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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/30 08:03:54 (permalink)
     Your theory sounds right to me .... It is an old piece of software. The Developers will be long gone, its probably written in an outdated version of some programming language - So I cant see them putting out a new release.........Although wouldn't it be nice if I was wrong

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/30 09:51:13 (permalink)
    My theory on why they don't fix it is that this I beleive it was written by Roland

     
    Absolutely correct - it's not Cakewalk's code, it's based on Roland's Variphrase technology.  And even though Cakewalk is technically Roland, I would think there are years and years worth of code that neither would be able to modify from the other.
     

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/30 09:59:53 (permalink)
    If I were you, I'd run a check of all that memory and also a full virus and disk scan. I think a lot of the problems people are having are due to computer errors and not software errors. I was having crashes and a FULL scan of MS Security Essentials found a trojan horse on my system that the Quick Scan didn't find. Since then, it been running clean. 

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    Re:When is V-Vocal going to stop crashing X1 -X2 2012/10/30 12:30:12 (permalink)
    never ;)

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