When is a recording not a recording ?

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2016/04/14 05:44:04 (permalink)

When is a recording not a recording ?

Hey Guys,
I have a weird thing I am trying to understand in Sonar.
recently, I was trying to record audio from one plug in to an audio track using patch points
  • Synth tracks is all good - audio coming out
  • patch point is all good, audio passing through (though its a double of the synth track)
  • Waveform option on the audio track shows the waveform of the audio passing through the track
but
  • when I record, I see the red waveform for track but as soon as I hit stop it disappears !
  • there is nothing on the take lane or main track - it just disappears as if it was never there.
 
 what I found by playing around was to disable the "exclude Synth inputs" option in the Project->record preferences in the section "allow arm changes during record/playback"
as soon as I did that everything worked as expected.\\now the weird thing is that I wasn't toggling the record settings during record or playback; instead I was setting record on while the transport was stopped then hitting the R key to start recording.
 
another thing I noted was that if I was viewing the "media" tab, I would see a list of files created by the tracks I was trying to record and the number incrementing  but the files disappearing as soon as I hit stop... ie SEM mix, Rec (145)
 
So, is this a bug or expected behaviour ??
 
Chuck
 
 

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    brundlefly
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    Re: When is a recording not a recording ? 2016/04/14 12:34:52 (permalink)
    Sounds like a bug. But does it only happen when recording via Patch Point? What happens if you split the Instrument track, arm the synth audio track, and record to that track directly?

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    Re: When is a recording not a recording ? 2016/04/14 13:05:54 (permalink)
    Is Auto Punch enabled in Preferences > Project > Record?
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    Re: When is a recording not a recording ? 2016/04/14 16:10:35 (permalink)
    thanks for the replies guys !
     
    I will try the split track.
    When I created a new Audio track right next to my patch point track and choose an external audio input, record enable both & hit R, both track indicate that they are recording (waveform visible etc.) but when I stop, only the Audio input from external is left - the patch point track is blank.
     
    Auto Punch is not enabled - separately, I tried setting up punch points & the result was that there was a waveform visible at the punch point ( as expected) but as soon as the transport stopped, the waveform disappeared.
     
    thanks
     
    Chuck
     
    If it's a bug - where do I report it (apart from here) ?? 

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    Re: When is a recording not a recording ? 2016/04/14 16:33:55 (permalink)
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    Re: When is a recording not a recording ? 2016/04/15 02:05:07 (permalink)
    What version are you on?
     
    This problem sounds exactly like one that I reported just after the patch points came out (about 6 months ago). I had it happen that when recording multi-outputs from AD2, 2 tracks would go missing after I hit stop (WAV files disappear). However, that problem I could reproduce in a simple project, so Cakewalk fixed it in the next release.
     
    You might have found another special case of the same problem. Please try to reproduce in a small project, which according to the detailed research that you have done already should be possible

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    Re: When is a recording not a recording ? 2016/04/15 18:49:34 (permalink)
    thanks for the link scook - I will try to reproduce it some more on another machine before logging it.
     
    Rob thanks for your suggestions and observations - it's good to not totally be alone ! I am on the latest version 2016.03
     
    My project was a test so just 3 or 4 tracks in total - very small.
     
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