AnsweredWhere is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum?

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2016/06/13 19:14:21 (permalink)

Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum?

I opened up an old song and Triangle II was missing. I looked at the Sonar Platinum edition and noticed it was not in the line up of VSTs. Did you just get rid of it? How can I get it back? I hate when sonar takes away synths and effects. It drives me nuts. I found out that I could get some of the old effects if you had the disks. Hmmm...what do you do if you never had disks? 

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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/13 19:25:50 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby doriginal 2016/06/13 20:19:38
Triangle II was never bundled with SONAR.
 
It is still possible to get the plug-in from the Cakewalk servers using the Wayback Machine
Go to the Wayback Machine https://web.archive.org/web/20140327103800/
Put this link in the http prompt http://cakewalk.com/products/triangle/default.aspx
Click the Latest button
This will open an archived page
Click on the "Download it Today" link to get the plug-in.
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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/13 19:28:18 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2016/06/13 20:28:12
Anything which was sold as a download from Cakewalk should be available in your store account. Triangle II was a free download so it would not be in your account. Best bet is backup and archive downloaded installers.
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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/13 20:02:40 (permalink)
Thanks. Who new about that wayback machine. 

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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/13 20:15:16 (permalink)
Yup, went on a hunt for Triangle a while back when I was beginning Simon Cann's book "Cakewalk Sythesizers ...".  He starts off with that one to teach the basics of synthesis.

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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/14 12:18:08 (permalink)
Too bad I can't pick up Square, Pentagon and SFZ+ the same way. :(
 
Triangle downloads directly, but the other 3 take you to the deprecated sales cart. 

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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/14 12:31:53 (permalink)
Square 1 is currently bundled with SONAR.
 
Pentagon I was never released for free but was bundled with SONAR for years. I suppose most that used it would still have access to it from a previous version of SONAR.
 
SFZ+ while given away for free for a limited time required a serial number so Cakewalk used their store to fill requests for the plug-in. Those who took advantage of the free offer or purchased the synth should have the download in their store accounts.
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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/14 12:39:42 (permalink)
I knew I'd seen Square somewhere. Doh!
 
I've seen Pentagon referenced a few times in the forums. Too bad it's no longer available. Nothing wrong with old (like me!) and simple (not quite like me; yet!).

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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/14 12:55:36 (permalink)
Pentagon has a serious problem with patches using some of its speaker simulations. In 64bit SONAR it would cause a loud continuous blast of noise upon loading the patches. Still it was the only synth bundled with SONAR which could be configured as a vocoder.
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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/14 14:04:49 (permalink)
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Pentagon has a serious problem with patches using some of its speaker simulations. In 64bit SONAR it would cause a loud continuous blast of noise upon loading the patches...

Not the kind of sound design I was looking for. 

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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/14 20:13:40 (permalink)
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Pentagon has a serious problem with patches using some of its speaker simulations. In 64bit SONAR it would cause a loud continuous blast of noise upon loading the patches. Still it was the only synth bundled with SONAR which could be configured as a vocoder.




Good to know!
 
I kind of like Pentagon.
 
I just took a look and there are slightly more than 100 patches across all Pentagon I banks A-F that have active simulations.  The rest are set to "OFF".
 
Seems kind of redundant today to use effects in a synth patch, with much better ones available with Guitar Rig, TH2 or TH3, and all the other included Sonar effects. 
 
I may just have to create a new set of banks with the simulator set to "OFF" for each patch, and see how drastically it alters these sounds. Good for a rainy weekend kind of project :-)
 
For example, i just took Pentagon A bank "Fuzzy Guitar", turned off the speaker simulation, assigned TH-2 Producer & Breverb and it screams.  Nothing lost in the translation :-)
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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/14 22:10:41 (permalink)
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I knew I'd seen Square somewhere. Doh!
 
I've seen Pentagon referenced a few times in the forums. Too bad it's no longer available. Nothing wrong with old (like me!) and simple (not quite like me; yet!).




It seems that Pentagon I was included from Sonar 5 Producer through X3, and was dropped for the rolling update version Sonar(SPlat).
 
Square I, which was originally a separate download, seems to have been included from Sonar X2 through the current Sonar Splat, etc.
 
Some observations:
 
Triangle II - Monophonic, with 2 oscillators, each with 7 waveforms, 1 multi-mode filter, 3 dedicated LFOs, 3 dedicated envelopes ; MIDI learn = yes
 
Square I - Polyphonic, 3 oscillators, multi-mode filter, 4 LFOs (Pitch, Filter, Volume, and Wave Selector/PWM), 3 dedicated envelopes (pitch, filter, and volume)  MIDI learn = no
 
Pentagon I - Polyphonic, 5 dedicated envelopes (2 amplifier envelopes, 2 filter envelopes, 1 pitch envelope), 4 oscillators, 14 factory waves, 2 multi-mode filters, filter LFO, amplifier LFO, up to 64 voices, MIDI learn = Yes
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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/21 11:56:54 (permalink)
You can get some better synths for free at UGO.com
 
And yea, Cake should definitely come up with a good VA, 64 bit synth.
 
Rapture Pro, VA and a looper would work - and a 3rd party drummer.

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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/21 16:53:07 (permalink)
Triangle II seems to be 32-bit, as well, which then would bring in BitBridge/JBridge for it to work in a 64-bit environment.
 
That may not be an issue - I believe all the 32-bit Cakewalk stuff still works OK in 64-bit installations, but just maybe be ready on the first use, to make sure it doesn't blare out some speaker-killing Armageddon noise.
 
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Re: Where is Triangle II in Sonar Platinum? 2016/06/21 19:57:05 (permalink)
If you need a 64-bit VA, this one gets my vote :-)
 
Some songs created exclusively with Diva for OSC 35:
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/osc-35-diva
 
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The oscillators, filters and envelopes closely model components found in some of the great monophonic and polyphonic synthesizers of yesteryear. Modules can be mixed and matched so you can build hybrids, but what
sets DIVA apart is the sheer authenticity of the analogue sound. This comes at the cost of quite a high CPU-hit, but we think it was worth it: Diva is the first native software synth that applies methods from industrial circuit simulators (e.g. PSpice) in realtime. The behaviour of zero-delay-feedback filters when pushed to the limit
clearly demonstrates the advantages of this groundbreaking approach.

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