Where is the world going from this pint- I mean point

The world is changing, I can feel it in the water. <-- (famous quote from a movie). Meet the new boss, same as the old boss? Are there there turbulent times ahead? Where will music go now?

I'm still wondering when latin jazz will finally be recognized as the most sophisticated, rewarding to listen too, and all inclusive music that humanity has discovered.

Latin Jazz, to me, seems like a great big group hug. Maybe it's time has come?

best regards,
mike

ORIGINAL: Crg

The world is changing, I can feel it in the water. <-- (famous quote from a movie). Meet the new boss, same as the old boss? Are there there turbulent times ahead? Where will music go now?

We know there has always been turbulent times and I see no reason to think it will stop anytime soon. Sadly I see more reasons supporting it getting worse. Many have killed and been killed for money and beliefs. Sure wish that would stop.

I have no idea where music will go but I'm sure curious about the impact that Celomony's Melodyne Editor is going to have and anxious to see how it changes my music experience's.

I think internet "Indie" radio is going to become very popular.

ORIGINAL: Jonbouy

Music and all sound really, why that all melds into a single continuous drone which is around F#, with a little overtone which is reminiscent of running water.

According to recent studies, the big bang was tuned to a low Bb. Maybe that's our problem. Bb and F# form "the devil's triad". Oy vey...

As for the future of music... ever seen the old Buck Rogers episode "Space Rockers" portraying a 25th century rock band? We all laughed back in the 70s, but as time goes on it's not such a bad prediction.

Space, and I suspect you know this...

We will never again experience the opportunity to be subversive by merely listening to a hidden AM radio in our bedroom while the parents sleep comfortably.

I don't think music will ever get that opportunity again.

Mass media has overwhelmed society. When I first listened to the Beatles and the Stones we didn't even own a television set, and now I'm very glad for that.

What I find most curious is that the uber outsider revolutionaries are now practicing anachronism by revisiting old worn out genres... and unfortunately they are completely ignorant of the historical context of the music they "discover".

For example; I find a lot of alt teens that are open minded citizens seeking refuge in bluegrass. I like to challenge them by asking them why they are enthusiastically worshiping a music genre that historically has been a celebration of white supremacy and blatant racism.

At first I'm met with denial... but it only takes a bit of study to learn that Mr Monroe's invention was a reaction to the popularity of that other form of popular radio music. You know, the one with *gasp* drums.

My dad used to have an ugly name for music that had drums. I never thought that was cool... and that's what rock and roll was all about... not buying into your dad's way of thinking.

It freaks me out that the new open minded kids are so hungry for a unique experience... an experience not found on MTV/VH1/Cable/satellite that they are willing to support a renaissance in redneck music. (don't shoot me I'm a redneck... but I love my neighbors)

Another example is the jam band kids. I'm all for jam band music... I think it's sophisticated stuff... but it's sad to see the kids have not figured out the original lesson that came with that sort of music: "Everything in moderation".

It seems that what used to be an act of subversive revolution and a realization that science was the new order (something about growing up with the imminent threat of nuclear holocaust) is now an act of raw consumption by long haired kids that seem to think its really cool to look like the picture of Jesus they have hanging on the wall at home. It's as if they haven't considered accepting Jesus as the lord savior... they just want to look like him.

Bummer... another generation of wasted burnouts. At least the first generation had some good primary grades schooling before they ran wild... this generation can barely pass the Comprehensive Assessment Test.

Oh well, I suppose we should file this under "too much information".

In any event I think the days of music being revolutionary are long gone.

BTW, I think books are still vital.

best,
mike

However hard we push the envelope in any direction that will guarantee an upcoming interest in it's contrast.

I notice a lot of porn pop and unimaginative grind stuff that is a creeping up and making a big sell....of course some tiny tim type will come along and be the breath of 'fresh air' out of the existing trend....that will breed into other 'cousins' of like thematic nerdisms and will lead us to another sharp turn to escape that..................

There will be ways to program your favorite bands/performers into an engine that will churn out the perfect song, made from the elements chosen, JUST FOR YOU...it is becoming more and more personalized and less of a community experience....of course that puts me out of a hobby and relieves the wife of my moody ego trip.

acid-chant

Heavy Hop

Trance-a-billy

I watched Breakfast at Tiffany's a few months ago... WOW!

ORIGINAL: mike_mccue


For example; I find a lot of alt teens that are open minded citizens seeking refuge in bluegrass. I like to challenge them by asking them why they are enthusiastically worshiping a music genre that historically has been a celebration of white supremacy and blatant racism.

At first I'm met with denial... but it only takes a bit of study to learn that Mr Monroe's invention was a reaction to the popularity of that other form of popular radio music. You know, the one with *gasp* drums.

Mike, sorry to cherry-pick this section out of your post, but I feel you might be better tracing the history of bluegrass further back than Bill Monroe. Bluegrass and 'mountain music' has it's roots in the settlers of the 17th Century, and is a direct descendant of Irish, Scots and French traditional music.

I don't know too much about Bill Monroe but I have read that a lot of bluegrass tunes from the late 30's and '40's incorporated black and white gospel songs, and black work 'chants'. It seems a shame to label a very enjoyable and historic genre of music 'racist'.

That would seem to on a par with labelling all UK punk-rock as racist because of the 'Oi' skinhead bands of the late 1970's - there's a much wider picture than that.

I wouldn't presume to call you a whack-job Mike , thanks for the info, I'll do some reading up.

I'm still wondering when latin jazz will finally be recognized as the most sophisticated, rewarding to listen too, and all inclusive music that humanity has discovered.

You have to move to Europe. A few years ago I went to see Charles Lloyd at a Los Angles club. There were maybe 50 people. He said he just came back from Europe where he was doing 5000 people a night at concert venues. It's a shame. It's really our one true art form created in the USA.

yep... she's smoking hot!

I remember doing one week of two weeks for a MTV Spring Break.

After the first week I begged for replacement. When my replacement showed up I told him "after a few days you'll be sick of viewing flesh".

The next time I saw my colleague he said "you know, I didn't understand at first... but after a while I was really sick of viewing flesh".

Crazy!

:-)

I think grime is like grunge... but every one wears Madras.

I could be mistaken.

:-)

Do a search... I'm not the only whack job with this opinion.

You are certainly not. But I'm not sure I see the connection between Highland-Celtic music and Bluegrass.
The whole Satan thing with Duke Ellington and "black" jazz was merely racism and fear of the bad habits<-- drugs that permeated that scene. All wonderful music but cultural misunderstandings can color even gospel. How many genres would you include in Folk?