kaylen
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Which drum sampler?
I'm considering a present for myself, I have battery 4 and that's useful , I have ezdrummer but having problems installing it.are there any suggestions for a drums under three hundred that could be my one stop drum app? I really like drums of the world and percussion sounds Id love to here what your using.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/06 22:52:52
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/06 23:10:33
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kaylen
I have ezdrummer but having problems installing it.
Why? - If you post some details of the poblem I am sure folks here will help you out. One important thing. If you are using 64 bit Sonar, you must download the latest update to EZ-Drummer from your Toontrack account or it will not load the samples. (even if you are using 32 bit it makes sense to get the latest update anyway)
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 00:39:16
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 00:39:18
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 00:39:20
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 00:39:21
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
I7 920, 8 gigs ram, Newest gigabyte motherboard, 100 gig ssd for operating system and program files, 1 TB 7400 rpm for storage, Full V-Studio system, 2x Motu 2408 MKIII, 2x Motu 24 I/O, Maschine, Kore 2, Virus TI2, Korg m3, Novation Supernova, Novation D-station, Mo Phatt, Elektron Machine Drum, MicroKorg XL, Arturia Origin, Korg Triton, Roland jv2080-completely expanded, Avalon 737SP, 3 Sony premiere monitors, 2 event 20/20 studio monitors, Autotune AVP1, TC Helicon Voiceworks, 1 TC Electronics Powercore 6000, 1 Powercore Firewire
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Re: Which drum sampler?
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
I7 920, 8 gigs ram, Newest gigabyte motherboard, 100 gig ssd for operating system and program files, 1 TB 7400 rpm for storage, Full V-Studio system, 2x Motu 2408 MKIII, 2x Motu 24 I/O, Maschine, Kore 2, Virus TI2, Korg m3, Novation Supernova, Novation D-station, Mo Phatt, Elektron Machine Drum, MicroKorg XL, Arturia Origin, Korg Triton, Roland jv2080-completely expanded, Avalon 737SP, 3 Sony premiere monitors, 2 event 20/20 studio monitors, Autotune AVP1, TC Helicon Voiceworks, 1 TC Electronics Powercore 6000, 1 Powercore Firewire
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Re: Which drum sampler?
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Maschine by ni...nuff said.
I7 920, 8 gigs ram, Newest gigabyte motherboard, 100 gig ssd for operating system and program files, 1 TB 7400 rpm for storage, Full V-Studio system, 2x Motu 2408 MKIII, 2x Motu 24 I/O, Maschine, Kore 2, Virus TI2, Korg m3, Novation Supernova, Novation D-station, Mo Phatt, Elektron Machine Drum, MicroKorg XL, Arturia Origin, Korg Triton, Roland jv2080-completely expanded, Avalon 737SP, 3 Sony premiere monitors, 2 event 20/20 studio monitors, Autotune AVP1, TC Helicon Voiceworks, 1 TC Electronics Powercore 6000, 1 Powercore Firewire
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 00:52:35
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mmm - looks like Bigboi having a few issues with the new forum software. 
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 02:18:32
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kaylen
I really like drums of the world and percussion sounds Id love to here what your using.
It just occured to me that the other thread mentioned by Chuckebaby may not answer this question specifically. One option may be BFD and some expansions. The expansions are half price at the moment and include Kabuki & Noh Percussion, BFD Percussion, and Japanese Taiko Percussion. http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=106 The first two will work in BFD Eco. A nice feature of the FX Expansion site is you can audition all the drums in a pack from the kit pieces tab for each expansion. There are 132 drums in the percussion expansion, its tempting me while the half price sale lasts. Toontrack is a bit light on percussion and world drums. They only have the Latin EZX.
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twaddle
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 08:51:09
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I'm with Glyn on this, not simply because I'm a huge fan of BFD Eco & BFD2 and for me now it's the only drum plug I use and covers all of my eclectic tastes but also because right now it makes a lot of sense financially too. You can still pick up BFD Eco for around $29, These are UK sites Eco Cheapo!! but I'm sure you'll be able to find some in the US. You could get BFD Eco and the excellent percussion kit for half price and you'll then have the option of upgrading to BFD2 or even BFD3 in the not too distant future.  You can also register with FXpansion and download a fully working demo of BFD2 although obviously there are a number of limitations to the demo, such as only one kit, as opposed to the 10 full kits but it's a great way to get to grips with the program and the ethos behind FXpansion. Steve P.S. The percussion kit has a flexatone which was half the reason I bought it as I had a special place for it. You can hear it Here half way through the track, "8 Bit Blues"
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Grem
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 13:53:58
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Has anyone tried the platinum samples stuff for SD3? I am finding for scratch work I'll load SD instead of ezd or eco. Heck I have even tried SId for scratch work. But my point is: That using Andy Johns kit, the CC Rock Legend kit, and now I got the Jim Scott kit, these things make SD3 a real contender. And for $20 you really can't go wrong! I'm really considering getting the Evil Joe kit.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 14:15:06
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The Andy John's kit for SD3 is excellent. In fact SD3 was kind of useless to me until I bought it. Not that the included kits aren't good they just aren't very flexible and definitely not my style. Also the PS stuff has more velocity layers which made it so I didn't have to have my padKontrol set to fixed velocity and edit after the recording. If I tried to play it without the velocities were extremely inconsistent. I thought maybe my controller was defective but after installing the AJ kit it was smooth as silk. The only complaint I have, if it could be called that, is that it doesn't come with very many cymbals. I use Eco now but seriously... anyone still using SD3 NEEDS to buy the AJ kit while it's on special. $20 is nothing considering how useful it is.
In fact anyone looking at all the different drum packs and not sure what to get... well I don't think you can go wrong with any of the Platinum Samples stuff. I got the free Rock Legends for Eco (it was part of a special last summer) and it's all I use now.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 14:25:48
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Oh and I don't work for PS or anything. I just think their stuff is awesome and they are really helpful. More info on the AJ kit... it's like a really nice tight and modern sounding Pearl kit but not so modern that it sounds out of place on more old school tracks. Ultra clear and crisp. The demo samples don't really do it justice... like, at all.
So really if you don't need something ultra fancy to write your drum tracks with save some money and use SD3 with some of the PS expansions. You'll get more than pro results. If you need something fancier and don't mind putting in a little effort BFD is awesome and you can get Eco on special for $50 or less. Eco on it's own is a really powerful program but I want the full version at some point. I however do very involved rock, prog, blues, jazz, country, etc so I need the extra options. Eco would be fine for probably 95% of hobbiests or beginner-intermediate producers.
The program I was originally looking at before learning about BFD was Addictive drums but their stuff is a little more processed. Still a really cool program though.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 14:43:47
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Actually pleased with SD3. Even the DSF kits are nice for basic stuff, platinum is very nice. Recently opted to pick-up Sample Tank XL on the $39.00 deal and there are some cool drum loops there too. EZ Drummer lite has been less than impressive, nothing enough to interest me into buying into the full version or Superior.
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Grem
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 14:45:17
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Beep I remember you going through those decisions when you first came around. I got Eco right around the same time you did and got the same free expansion pack.
I just picked up the Jim Scott stuff while it's on sale. And will get the Evil Joe stuff next paycheck.
I just wish they'd have a sale on their Midi packs.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 14:52:01
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Stipes Vigilo
EZ Drummer lite has been less than impressive, nothing enough to interest me into buying into the full version or Superior.
Does ezd lite have the "Humanizer" feature? This feature is what helps ezd stand out. Eco has the same thing almost. With Eco, your more in control of the human aspect. Ezd you can only turn it on and off. But when it's on,it's fantastic! Make no mistake! It's a great feature.
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Stipes Vigilo
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:03:27
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Stipes Vigilo
EZ Drummer lite has been less than impressive, nothing enough to interest me into buying into the full version or Superior.
Does ezd lite have the "Humanizer" feature? This feature is what helps ezd stand out.
Eco has the same thing almost. With Eco, your more in control of the human aspect.
Ezd you can only turn it on and off. But when it's on,it's fantastic! Make no mistake! It's a great feature.
Heheh, it doesn't even have toms, much less that feature. Way to really not show what it could do!
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:21:07
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Hi, Grem. I saw the Evil Joe packs for SD3 on special but they sounded very different than what I expected. I thought they were the ultra clicky style modern metal kits. No money for that type of stuff right now anyway and I should stick to BFD. When I saw the Andy John's stuff for BFD I got all excited but wow... way more expensive than the SD3 kit. The demos sound awesome though. Maybe someday but the BFD2 upgrade is more important. I didn't particularly care for the demos as far as kit pieces but they likely sound a lot better loaded up in the sampler. I'm more interested in the expanded mixer functionality and kit slots though.
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:23:31
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Stipes Vigilo
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Stipes Vigilo
EZ Drummer lite has been less than impressive, nothing enough to interest me into buying into the full version or Superior.
Does ezd lite have the "Humanizer" feature? This feature is what helps ezd stand out.
Eco has the same thing almost. With Eco, your more in control of the human aspect.
Ezd you can only turn it on and off. But when it's on,it's fantastic! Make no mistake! It's a great feature.
Heheh, it doesn't even have toms, much less that feature. Way to really not show what it could do!
The Addictive Drums demo does the same thing. Kick, snare and I think a hi hat. Pretty lame. The interface is cool though and it was pretty easy to use.
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twaddle
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:30:11
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Heheh, it doesn't even have toms, much less that feature. Way to really not show what it could do! I had to check that out as I thought you must surely have been mistaken but no, it really does come minus toms and cymbals and yet here in the UK it's still going to cost you £49, although absolute music say they have it for £1 EZdrummer Litewhich I guess is a little more reasonable have you tried the BFD2 demo Beepster ? Steve
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:31:03
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Boy that is lame. Just a few drums? Come on!
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:33:26
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Hi, Steve. I have not but it's a done deal in my mind anyway so I don't really need to check it out. Eco has convinced me it's just a matter of scrounging up some cash. Sad part is I could actually afford it right now but I may be moving... again... ugh. Gotta watch the cashflow.
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twaddle
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:35:47
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Yeah I heard you were on the move again.
I'm pretty much in the same boat financially and keep trying to avert my gaze from the current 50% off sale they have on their expansion packs and that's not easy.
Steve
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/07 15:39:38
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It's very frustrating because I was just starting to get some real work done and about start acquiring some of the gear I've been eyeballing since the last move tapped me out. I won't even get into the infuriating reasons why this is happening. I am one stressed out Beep right now though.
Good luck with whatever's going on in Twaddleland though. Such is life I guess.
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kaylen
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Re: Which drum sampler?
2013/07/08 22:34:11
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Thanks all input was helpful, for now I'm going with BFD eco that I found on amazon for 29.00..and the percussion expansion
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