While we wait for Rene's Drums -What is the best way -

What is the best way to set up DimPro or Rapture to produce a basic drum set?

I am asking this because I don't have a clue to how to set up drums and make this work. I do keyboard (don't hold that against me, please).

So for you who have done this, show those of us who don't know, how to set up the drums and make them sound good.


Thanks,
Daniel

ORIGINAL: lawapa

See I could offer some suggestions but #1 I don't know if you have a dedicated audio editor for prepping samples. #2 I also don't know if your ever attempted a write to sfz. If you do have cooledit or soundforge and have done the sample prepping stuff you could sample out some fav sounds as wave files(don't risk the originals) pump them up and then wite to sfz for a custom kit? Then just use the Dpro progs to fill in the rest?

I do have Audition (cooledit pro before Adobe bought them). I never thought about taking the wave file and prepping it. I can do this to a few of the samples in the drum set, at least the ones that I need. I can write SFZ and make this work. I never thought about doing it this way.

Where do you get the rhythm patterns from? Do you make your own or buy them from a 3-party company?

Daniel

I WILL NOT BLAME YOU for me doing something stupid.... :)

I usually make backups of wave files that I modify. Even my own. I may not like how it all turns out.


I used to use acid drum loops a lot. However, I want to lean toward MIDI patterns that I can modify. The drums fit and then I need to make an adjustment to the patten to fit the melody or bass or something. Since many are using these drums synths, I wanted to know where did they get the loops. I tried a few free ones from the internet and they seem ok. But I can't use them in the music since I don't know where they came from. (copyright issues).

So I will take a look at SmartLoops and see I it is something that I can use.

Smartloops has a Q/A forum here.

http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss/

Is there a better way to import this into P5, or am I doing this correctly?

Project5 has an awkward way of handling MIDI files, but there's a few easy modifications that will make life easier later on. Here's what I did:

Insert an instance of Rapture, and load up the drum kit .prog that matches your .mid file (for example, BT Constructionloop House 01.prog). The File/Import menu will bring in the .mid file to another track(s), and bring up that dialog that you mentioned. Clicking "Yes" will bring the parts into one track. You can select all of the parts with a lasso or Ctrl+A, and right-click for Combine Selected Clips. Drag the results to the Rapture track.

Answering "No" to the dialog will bring in the parts over four separate tracks. This will be useful if you want to keep the kit drums isolated, saved as distinct pattern files, or perhaps use them with Rapture's Multitimbral mode. In this case, you'd want to select each of them in turn to bring them into the Editor. Some of the parts will be lacking a few notes at the ends to make a complete 2-bar pattern. Pad those out with 'rests' in the Editor (move the End Time), and then they'll loop cleanly.

Either way, you have saved .ptn files that better fit the loop-based workflow, and they'll drag out smoothly for repetitions. Once the preliminaries are done, you can drag to or open the saved files within the original Rapture track. Make sure that at least one of the kit parts occupies all of a 2-bar pattern, or the loops won't align perfectly (which, BTW, also sounds very cool).

that thing called the pattern browser has a disease worth of midi drum patterns.

have a good one
3Eo