Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these?

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2013/05/31 13:43:45 (permalink)

Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these?



[hint to roland]
This thing is driving me crazy with anticipation. Ever since seeing the Arturia Mini Brute demos I've been thinking to myself... "If Roland doesn't do it, maybe Behringer will" and now I see that Korg is taking it to the street:




[/hint to roland]

I'm thinking that by next fall I'm going to be in collect them all mode.

I hope they make enough!

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    The Maillard Reaction
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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 08:50:58 (permalink)


    I just signed up for a preorder on this bundle. I think they're the coolest thing since the invention of the iPad:












    I can almost imagine a Roland "Rebirth" box that has the 303, 808, and 909 all on one surface mount board. It would be loads of fun.
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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 08:59:54 (permalink)
    What are those? 
    And even if you're kidding, the synth sure has a familiar look to it . . . . . . . . .
     
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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 09:05:30 (permalink)
    I owned the original MS20. I am a bit concerned at the mini jack concept for the patch leads on this new one. The original had 6.5 mm jack sockets and I never had one go bad or intermittent. I am not sure the mini jacks will hold up unless they are a very good quailty connector and socket etc..They weren't that great on the original ARP2600 either.

    It is a good synth and fun to program and play. I also has the original MS50 expander module as well as the SQ10 analog sequencer and the vocoder too.  The virtual equivalents are just as good though. 

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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 09:12:14 (permalink)
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    What are those? 
    And even if you're kidding, the synth sure has a familiar look to it . . . . . . . . .
     
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    :-)




    I really dig the idea that the math running through analog circuits is a form of software. I dig the knobs too.


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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 12:04:04 (permalink)
    Honestly Mike, when I start lusting for real analog synths, it's because I "accidentally" do a search like this on ebay:

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/Electronic-Instruments-/38068/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=eurorack

    But then I keep repeating to myself that I don't have the space and they are monophonic and they don't have presets like the SW equivalents I have and it usually passes.

    For a while at least. 

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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 13:43:02 (permalink)
    As one who has owned many of the so called avatars of analog synthesis back in the day when they were all a royal pain in the ass...and someone who, in general,  isn't overly enamored with all things synth...it's quite easy for me to be a bit blasé about all the new synth offerings.  It seems funny to me that folks will spend inordinate amounts of money just to make the same sucky "space age" bleeps and bloops we made long ago...only now with dynamic filtering.  However as a commercial music producer I have to have a ready arsenal of them for any given project.  I, like Drew, prefer the software versions and, should I get the rare urge to purchase some actual piece of hardware, usually lie down until the feeling passes.

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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 13:55:46 (permalink)


    I'm sorta fascinated with the idea that the newer automated assembly processes and relatively low prices make these items easier to have fun with. The MIDI implementation is better in most cases, and we certainly have better DAW based sequencers this time around.

    I have yet to figure out how to have a group of folks jamming together all using my ITB soft synths and stuff.

    There's so much potential in the native instruments but it all breaks down when visitors are reluctant to take turns tweakng their stuff at *mission command*.  Most of the would like to sketch and doodle in a corner until I discover they are on to something cool.

    I fell into a trap of thinking it was possible to inspire folks to sit and learn about all the cool synths I have hidden ITB... and I have started thinking that I drifted away from providing a collab jam sort of work flow and I want to focus on the creative sparks that come out of jamming.

    I have been looking forward to getting some permanent instrument controller stations set to the side but the musicians still need to look at the i-guis and have time to make adjustments and stuff. 

    I have thought I might re-purpose a few old DAWS into instrument stations, but now I think I may just skip the native instrument part and try running a few things where the knobs do things right there on the box they are stuck too.


    Novation just announced a Bass Station II as well.

    Plus I can plug a guitar into the Korg MS20 or the Arturia Mini Brute... and who wouldn't want to do that?


    Seems like a good time to try it.

    best regards,
    mike



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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 14:28:06 (permalink)
    Some thoughts on the inspiration part:

    It depends on the person, but personally I find keyboards with only 25 keys really frustrating rather than inspiring. 37 keys (like the Korg) are OK - for monophonic.

    And as good as monophonic can be, it's always nice to be able to switch to poly mode.



    And for in the box stuff, take a look at the Novation SL controllers with the LCD's that display what parameters are controlled (and what values the parameters are set to - it's bi-direction communication) when running their Automap. 
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    post edited by drewfx1 - 2013/06/01 14:31:42

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    Re:Who is gonna be the first kid on the block to get one of these? 2013/06/01 19:10:44 (permalink)
    Mike brings up an interesting point about jamming. When I had a rather large hardware synth set-up there was in fact quite a bit of jamming. Not only with my own ideas but also with other like minded musicians and composers. It was very cool because all the instruments were wired up and in the mix and they each had their own set of controls for serious sound manipulation. It was very easy to jam and record the results of it to which I have many hours of experimentation recorded. 

    The challenge today would be receiving multiple signal or data flow from multiple players and getting that into a powerful computer with multiple VST's set up to respond accordingly. Another idea might be to have multiple players each with their own controller and computer (laptop) handling the synth set-up for each. A common clock could be routed around so that each person could either lock onto it or ignore it. Kraftwerk for example play like like this and don't carry all the analog gear around any more!

    I had all the analog stuff and there is a fair bit of tolerance and maintenance involved as well.

    There is still something to be said of having a great external instrument to play as it tends to make you focus on it and the music a bit more so than fiddling around with VST's in computers. The Fairlight concept is really good. When you sit down behind that you are about to engage in a fantastic musical instrument and it feels like that rather than a computer. It just makes you want to play it and I think anything that does that is very good. My new Kurzweil PC3K certainly has that effect on me and so many of the keyboard instruments mentioned here will also inspire the same way. 

    The original MS20 certainly had a profound effect on me when I first got it and I used it for 25 or more years afterwards too. I expanded mine with the MS50 expander, the SQ10 analog sequencer and the vocoder as well as an MS10. All these things worked very well together and are capable of very interesting and complex sounds. You really had to commit to tracking things then and there because you could never recreate the same sound exactly the next day!

    I love the analog modular VST's though. They are amazing and very versatile too. You just need an interesting controller to talk to them. The M Audio Axiom 61 is well geared up for lots of control. What is vital is DAW software that allows you to painlessly and quickly map controllers to software parameters. Some DAW's make this too hard and people tend to shy away from it. 

    Before investing in that MS20 I would want to know that every control on the front of that thing was sending midi data of some kind into your sequencer. Then it would also be a great controller with lots of knobs that could be used for a multitude of functions in other VST's etc...


    If you don't mind spending a bit of money here is another real analog synth that I was considering at one stage.

    http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/products/prophet12/

    This would keep you busy for a very long time!
    post edited by Jeff Evans - 2013/06/01 19:24:03

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