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2018/05/26 21:34:15 (permalink)

Who is running Windows 1803

I've yet to be updated, just wondering if I'm alone there or if it hasn't rolled out to many of you.
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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/26 21:41:48 (permalink)
I'll be getting it tomorrow morning, like it or not. Put it off 3 times but that option's been removed.
 
Will report back from the other side.

 
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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/26 23:39:06 (permalink)
See I have yet to even have the option to put it off.
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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/28 10:46:09 (permalink)
I've had 1803 since it was officially rolled out.  Only "problem" I've had is the default PC audio playback device and that has been fixed in another update.  In the initial 1803 if my recording interface unit was powered on (and connected) Windows automatically selected it as the default.  With the update it has been corrected and the PC audio playback device (Speakers) remains as the default device even with the recording interface unit connected (like it worked before 1803).
 
 

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/28 17:11:39 (permalink)
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See I have yet to even have the option to put it off.


 
I'm still putting it off. I've set my 'active hours' to 6.00am - 11pm, and always power up/down inside those hours, never restarting. It'll get me eventually though.

 
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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/28 23:40:55 (permalink)
I understand that there are those that wish to test early releases, or the latest version, and that benefits us all!
 
But I have personally never been an early adopter, preferring to hang back and let things get worked out a bit.
 
My current plan with Windows 10 is to remain one release behind the latest, as I assume that most of the issues with the slightly older version will be resolved by that point.
 
For example, this weekend I just upgraded to from Win10 1703 to 1709, as 1803 is now the latest release.

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/29 18:08:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby RSMCGUITAR 2018/05/29 18:56:20
Windows 10 quality issues?
 
https://www.ghacks.net/2018/05/15/windows-10-version-1803-does-not-play-nice-with-some-solid-state-drives-ssd/
 
Microsoft's recommendation for device owners is to go back to the previous version of Windows 10 or wait until the release of a patch which the company hopes to release in June.

 

Why was not the issue with Surface 2017 with Intel SSDs detected by the company? It surely tested the new version of Windows 10 on its own devices before launching it to customers worldwide?
While it is certainly impossible to test a new version of Windows 10 on all hardware configurations, Microsoft appears to rely too much on data that it gets from the Insider channel and from Home customers when new versions of Windows 10 get released, and less on data from company internal tests and quality controls.
The Windows 10 version 1803 release notes highlight both issues right now. Microsoft's only suggestion to customers is to restore the previous version of Windows 10 on the device.


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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/29 19:14:48 (permalink)
Thanks abacab,

My main concern was that there wasn't some problem with my system preventing an update. Looks like waiting is the best bet.
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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/30 09:43:24 (permalink)
I'd make sure you have a system image and a Windows 10 Repair dvd or usb beforehand.
 
I haven't installed that update on my studio pc because it already crashed one of our laptops and it took some effort to get it back up and running Windows, the files restored, etc.  A major debacle.
 
For the time being, I've uninstalled Avast anti-virus software on our other pc's and on my studio pc, just using Windows Defender.
 
https://answers.microsoft...4945-9f0c-17ac854400e2

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/30 10:26:50 (permalink)
I have Win 10 Pro (latest version) and also a dual boot with the Windows Insider advanced versions.  I have the Insider version specifically so I can test Sonar and my recording software/hardware.  Thus when a new version or update is issued for Win 10, I'm confident my production system is going to work OK.  There was the one snag on audio playback device (that would have only affected a very few) I mentioned on the initial 1803 but a later update fixed that.  The only other issue was with Roland drivers not being available when Win 10 was first issued, but that was a Roland snafu - they had plenty of time to have drivers available as advanced copies of Win 10 were made available to vendors so they could be ready and Roland wasn't.

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/05/30 17:41:05 (permalink)
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Thanks abacab,

My main concern was that there wasn't some problem with my system preventing an update. Looks like waiting is the best bet.




I don't have a link handy, but I recall hearing that in some cases MS pulled the 1803 release temporarily due to some widespread concerns.  In any case, it wouldn't cause any harm to wait.
 
My current plan is to stay one whole release behind the curve, so that all the testing and fixes get pushed out by the time I get around to updating.  Win10 Professional gives you a bit more control than Win10 Home in that regard.

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/04 17:00:35 (permalink)
Just tried to install 1803.  It failed at the very end due to "m-audio USB midi device" something. 
I looked across the room and my Keystation Pro88 was on.
I turned it off and am trying the install again.
Hopefully the keystation will work if the install finishes this time.
All my other usb and firewire gear was turned off.
Hopefully all that will work too!

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/04 17:19:02 (permalink)
I ended up finding a way to force the update using the Media Creation Tool. Worked without issue
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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/04 17:43:57 (permalink)
You'd think that because of their preview program these updates would come out with much less issues. Get your shyte together MS Windows! 

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/05 09:59:40 (permalink)
1803 update has been working fine here.
 
"DAW users" are a minute sub-set of "Windows users".
Out of all Win10 beta-testers, extremely few are actually DAW users.
For all the hardware/software that Windows supports (VAST amount), there aren't that many issues.
 
First, you should create/maintain an up-to-date backup image file.
That's protection against many issues... including a rogue update that causes a problem.
As long as you have the up-to-date backup image file, there's no worry when installing updates.
 
If you have the Pro version of Win10, you've got a lot more control over the OS.
  • The Group Policy Editor can be used to shut down things like OneDrive, Cortana, etc.
  • Two Registry Tweaks can be inserted that completely shut down all Automatic Updates.
Thus, you choose when (if) Updates are downloaded/installed.
 

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/05 18:36:38 (permalink)
Jim Roseberry
 
First, you should create/maintain an up-to-date backup image file.
That's protection against many issues... including a rogue update that causes a problem.
As long as you have the up-to-date backup image file, there's no worry when installing updates.




Best advice ever!
 
That will cover you for most problems, and is very little work, especially when compared to the lost productivity and potential lost data when having to recover your computer with a clean install.

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/05 19:54:36 (permalink)
Backup, Backup, Backup.  What I preach to my clients.  And full drive, all partition, disc image backups.  
 
"Backups are not for IF they are needed but for WHEN they are needed.
 
I have two 2GB USB drives and alternate disc image backups between the two drives.  If one drive would develop a problem I still have a backup.  I disc image at least once a week and sometimes more depending on activity.  
 
My Sonar Projects are on a separate drive and I manually back up the Projects to the two USB drives.

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/06 20:02:23 (permalink)
Update installed without a hitch after turning off the Keystation88.
Keystation88 works just fine after install.

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/09 09:03:45 (permalink)
I finally allowed 1803 after doing a recovery disc/image back up. Everything *seems* OK apart from the usual issue with AD2. Focusrite 2i4 still working fine.

 
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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/12 22:53:59 (permalink)
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Backup, Backup, Backup.  What I preach to my clients.  And full drive, all partition, disc image backups.  
 
"Backups are not for IF they are needed but for WHEN they are needed.
 
I have two 2GB USB drives and alternate disc image backups between the two drives.  If one drive would develop a problem I still have a backup.  I disc image at least once a week and sometimes more depending on activity.  
 
My Sonar Projects are on a separate drive and I manually back up the Projects to the two USB drives.


So OK, I will finally get on the disk image bandwagon. I've always thought from my days in tech support (DOS, win 3.1 & 95) that clones were worthless but I am too old and with cancer I can't keep spending time reinstalling everytime windows kills my pc.
 
So Macrium reflect 7 free is what I see a lot of really good people here using. How does it work? I mean do I have to get a large ext HD to backup to, or is a disc image 1 GB, larger, smaller?
 
I like your idea of two drives but is a 2 GB drive large enough?
 
Thanks!
 
FYI, I pulled the AL foil down over my ears and disconnected weeks ago and my pc and sonar is running so well now. But I have to connect and do some things now, so do I "do the dash" or will 1803 come knocking death at my door after 10-15 minutes online?
 
I just previewed a youtube which went over all the great things the update will provide. What a piece of absolute mashed up dung beetles in my mind...

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/13 01:17:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby robbyk 2018/06/13 15:59:07

If you're running Windows 10 Home, there is no supported way to delay the installation of updates. When a feature update is available, it will install in the next window outside Active Hours. You can try various workarounds, such as shutting off the Windows Update service or setting your network connection as metered, but these only briefly postpone the inevitable.
In Pro, Enterprise, and Education editions, you can defer feature updates for up to 16 months after their initial release to the Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted). In addition, you can defer quality updates, including the monthly Patch Tuesday fixes, by up to 30 days.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/faq-how-to-manage-windows-10-updates/
 
With that said, I use a combination of the metered network trick, and the MS "wushowhide" utility to keep Win10 updates at bay on my Win10 Home laptop (I use Win10 Pro on my DAW).
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3162-set-wireless-network-metered-non-metered-windows-10-a.html
 
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/35656-set-ethernet-connection-metered-unmetered-windows-10-a.html
 
https://www.tenforums.com...ates-windows-10-a.html
 
Good luck!

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/13 16:05:33 (permalink)
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If you're running Windows 10 Home, there is no supported way to delay the installation of updates. When a feature update is available, it will install in the next window outside Active Hours. You can try various workarounds, such as shutting off the Windows Update service or setting your network connection as metered, but these only briefly postpone the inevitable.
In Pro, Enterprise, and Education editions, you can defer feature updates for up to 16 months after their initial release to the Semi-Annual Channel (Targeted). In addition, you can defer quality updates, including the monthly Patch Tuesday fixes, by up to 30 days.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/faq-how-to-manage-windows-10-updates/
 
With that said, I use a combination of the metered network trick, and the MS "wushowhide" utility to keep Win10 updates at bay on my Win10 Home laptop (I use Win10 Pro on my DAW).
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/3162-set-wireless-network-metered-non-metered-windows-10-a.html
 
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/35656-set-ethernet-connection-metered-unmetered-windows-10-a.html
 
https://www.tenforums.com...ates-windows-10-a.html
 
Good luck!


Very much appreciated! Info I can trust and use! I had heard about the metered but not the wushowhide approach. It sounds like a song: a-wushowide, a-wushowide...in the jungle, the quiet jungle...
 
My google search found the following, but even from Microsoft, is it a hooey or does it work...I don't trust 'em anymore...
 
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/windows-10-windows-update-keeps-turning-it-self/323c832e-119f-4552-8641-474acbd3dcff

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/13 16:36:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby robbyk 2018/06/13 19:24:35
www.tenforums.com  is the best place to look for help (they have an extensive tutorial file).  Several "deeply" knowledgeable users there.  You don't have to be registered/logged in to view the Tutorials or even posts, but you do have to be registered/logged in to post a question or response.
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/13 17:49:28 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby robbyk 2018/06/13 19:24:47
fireberd
www.tenforums.com  is the best place to look for help (they have an extensive tutorial file).  Several "deeply" knowledgeable users there.  You don't have to be registered/logged in to view the Tutorials or even posts, but you do have to be registered/logged in to post a question or response.
 



Yup, the Admin over there, Shawn Brink, (and some other qualified folks) have written some great Windows tutorials.
 
Tutorial Index: https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/13 19:31:28 (permalink)
Thanks much for the tenforums link, I will certainly look over all of this tonight, and perhaps they can help me get my old studio DAW pc (win 7) which died after the Fall update along with this pc (my home pc), a few hours earlier. Both had BSOD and I was able to get this one going about a week later but nothing so far for my other studio pc.
 
I've used windows secrets lounge (.com/forums) since the 90s and they have always helped me well, but they now ask a small price for their tutorials and such. Great and helpful group though...

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/16 00:11:45 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby robbyk 2018/06/16 02:09:35
robbyk
 
 
My google search found the following, but even from Microsoft, is it a hooey or does it work...I don't trust 'em anymore...
 
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/windows-10-windows-update-keeps-turning-it-self/323c832e-119f-4552-8641-474acbd3dcff




It's just hooey . . . I tried it out over the last couple of days on  the laptop I use for the net (Win 10 home 64), and it still switches back from being set to 'Disabled' . . . so hooey it is.

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/16 02:09:30 (permalink)
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robbyk
 
 
My google search found the following, but even from Microsoft, is it a hooey or does it work...I don't trust 'em anymore...
 
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_10-other_settings/windows-10-windows-update-keeps-turning-it-self/323c832e-119f-4552-8641-474acbd3dcff




It's just hooey . . . I tried it out over the last couple of days on  the laptop I use for the net (Win 10 home 64), and it still switches back from being set to 'Disabled' . . . so hooey it is.


Thanks and fooey on hooey!

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/16 23:20:06 (permalink)
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Thanks and fooey on hooey!




Got a rhythm for that rhyme?

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Re: Who is running Windows 1803 2018/06/17 17:43:13 (permalink)
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robbyk
 
Thanks and fooey on hooey!




Got a rhythm for that rhyme?


Now that's a great idea, make a YouTube like the guy when the airline killed his guitar. Kind of a Neil Young electric Rockin in the Free World vibe:
 
That's what you told me all along
When you knew it was wrong so
Phooey... on you hooey (buh buh buuuh)
Microsoft!
Phooey...on your hooey (buh buh buuuh)
Microsoft!

"I'm just workin' on a good life, the way it is."
 
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