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Why can't I delete an event? (Resolved-ish)
Hi - happy New Year. I know it's early and I need major coffee, but I am unable to delete note events on a track, using the Event List view. I select the event by clicking on it, then hit the '-' button at the top for delete, and nothing happens. It's not deleting some other event - there is no asterisk to tell me the project has changed up in the title bar. Just, nothing happens. I cannot inert an event either, using the '+' sign at the top - same thing - nothing happens. Do I need a 'thwack' to the back of my head, or is something amiss here? Please someone explain where I am going wrong here. Bob Bone
post edited by robert_e_bone - 2013/01/08 11:20:23
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 07:47:34
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Hi Bob,
I've not powered Sonar up yet, but have you tried using your keyboard Insert and Delete buttons yet? Got to admit that I hardly use Event List anymore.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:08:25
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I get nothing with those either.
In addition, I have all of these events - I can see them - I can hear them - but if I go to PRV, I see NOTHING for the measures these events are in, and if I pull up Step Sequencer I see nothing there either, even though the events are quite real and quite present.
Bob Bone
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:18:28
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For this use the delete key on your keyboard.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:28:03
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John - the delete key does nothing to these events. Nothing happens.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:28:59
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Are you selecting them? I tested this and it works. It did in X1 and now in X2a. I often float the event list but it works floated or docked. I select the channel but you can select anything and hit delete.
post edited by John - 2013/01/01 08:38:34
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:36:46
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:45:12
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 See that the event is selected. Make sure that the track is not locked.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:46:42
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I KNOW - for the third time - I am selecting and the delete is not working.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:52:48
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 08:57:17
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Nope, not locked - possessed maybe.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:03:23
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Bizarre more like. You're not still celebrating new year with a drink by any chance? 
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:04:00
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No - but I might start drinking now.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:07:22
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I believe this is something to do with these measures being created with Step Sequencer.
If I open Step Sequencer for the measures, no data shows up, even though there is data.
Also, when I go to PRV, no data shows for these measures, even though it is there.
Bob Bone
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:08:30
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I'm out of ideas here. I wish it worked but I don't know why it isn't.
Sorry Bob. Not a good way to start off the new year.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:11:02
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I click on some tracks (all created with Step Sequencer), and I can see the steps that were entered.
Other tracks, I cannot. Further, when I click on one of the drum track measures for one that was created in 9/4, it opens Step Sequencer with no steps, and it also shows a 4/4 measure, instead of the 9/4 it was created with.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:11:50
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John
I'm out of ideas here. I wish it worked but I don't know why it isn't.
Sorry Bob. Not a good way to start off the new year.
It's driving me bonkers. Thanks for responding this early on a brain-dead day. Bob Bone
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:16:18
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I am predicting we're about to witness the creation of the first SONAR work around kludge of the new year.
I have never understood why the PRV isn't called step sequencer.
Good luck.
best regards,
mike
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:17:21
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Well, it is something to do with that particular track.
Other tracks in the project, all created with Step Sequencer, allow me to delete, no problem.
So grrrrrr to this track, but it is the only one I need to edit, and it would suck big time to have to re-enter these events. It is a drum track, from a Bill Bruford tune. It HURT the first time I entered the drums, going back a second time would make my head explode, like a penguin on the telly.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:18:18
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mike_mccue
I am predicting we're about to witness the creation of the first SONAR work around kludge of the new year.
I have never understood why the PRV isn't called step sequencer.
Good luck.
best regards,
mike
Glad I saved some party favors. I'd love a work-around - got one? Bob Bone
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:23:26
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Try saving the clip and opening it in another project for editing.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:23:26
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Bounce to clip. Do I win a prize? 
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:23:29
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Is this only in one project? Might be corrupt. Do you have an earlier version you can try out?
Also... the Event List scares me.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:28:41
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John
Try saving the clip and opening it in another project for editing.
+1 but it's just a guess on my part. Good luck. I feel for ya. very best regards, mike
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:29:39
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Bob. Try changing the editor for the clip using the clip editor menu (top right of the clip). I think that will sort it for you. I seem to recall running into something similar a while ago.
The editor selection actually changes the clip type and perhaps there's something relevant to your troubles in that process.
HTH
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 09:29:47
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Hey Mike Happy New Year to you.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 10:24:21
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FastBikerBoy
Bob. Try changing the editor for the clip using the clip editor menu (top right of the clip). I think that will sort it for you. I seem to recall running into something similar a while ago.
The editor selection actually changes the clip type and perhaps there's something relevant to your troubles in that process.
HTH
Hey - I am game to try this, but can you explain what I would change from and to? Bob Bone
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 10:28:45
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Well, I tried all the choices, and went back to Event List, and still cannot delete.
I will try to bounce later, after first trying to copy to another project.
Thanks for the ideas - hope something will work for me. It would seem something got internally jazzed up, which would although annoying be OK, but only if a work-around is available in some fashion.
Bob Bone
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 10:30:20
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Depends on the type of clip it is now. Try changing it to something different to the present and changing it back to the type you want.
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Re:Why can't I delete an event?
2013/01/01 12:48:05
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Switch the output to another patch, something chromatic rather than drum mapped.
Bounce to audio.
Open the audio in V-Vocal.
Turn it into MIDI.
Take the MIDI and send it to the original patch you were listening to.
HTH.
best regards,
mike
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