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Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
The new Captain America movie and the second Transformers movie are just 2 examples of Hollywood movies which show the Union Flag flying upside down.
How hard is it to get it right?
How would Americans feel if their flag was flown upside down?
Show some respect!
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:11:12
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:21:44
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I expect Hollyweird to mess something up  ...I can't wait to see the remake of the Muppets for example... 
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:32:33
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I, for one, didn't realize that the Union flag wasn't symmetrical. Thanks for that info. If I ever get to work on movie--not very likely; I'll make sure it's right. Have you stopped calling it the Union Jack?
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:42:35
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Old55
Have you stopped calling it the Union Jack?
Technically it should only be called the Union Jack when it is flown from a ship.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:46:10
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Twigman
How would Americans feel if their flag was flown upside down?
Technically speaking, we Americans would interpret that as a distress signal... and come to offer assistance. ;-) best regards, mike
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:46:21
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Well ... I haven't seen the movie ... but I'm guessing the flag they used, was made in China ... just like our flags are now.
So ... you know ... quality control ...
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:47:01
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More importantly why did Hollywood feel the need to put a gopher in A.A. Milne's masterworks?
Why did they buy the rights of Winnie the Pooh if they didn't think he'd written it well enough?
I've scoured the Ashdown Forest regularly and never yet seen a gopher. I've seen plenty of Tiggers and Bears though.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:47:51
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:49:09
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post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/09/05 11:50:41
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:51:03
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Twigman
How would Americans feel if their flag was flown upside down?
Technically speaking, we Americans would interpret that as a distress signal... and come to offer assistance.
In UK, likewise, it could be interpreted as a distress signal - my post offers assistance in educating the ignorant. However flying the Union Flag upside down can also be interpreted as a deliberate insult to the crown.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:51:31
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A British friend told me that during WWII a British camp was captured by Japan. The Japanese had the idea to try to capture more soldiers by ordering the camp to continue operating as normal. Unfortunately, the Japanese didn't realize that the Brits started flying the Union Jack upside down, which is the international sign of distress. So, when fellow Brits came within site of the camp they immediately knew something was amiss and, in the end, were able to liberate the camp. That could be an 'urban legend', but a good story none the less.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:53:02
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A British friend told me that during WWII a British camp was captured by Japan. The Japanese had the idea to try to capture more soldiers by ordering the camp to continue operating as normal. Unfortunately, the Japanese didn't realize that the Brits started flying the Union Jack upside down, which is the international sign of distress. So, when fellow Brits came within site of the camp they immediately knew something was amiss and, in the end, were able to liberate the camp. That could be an 'urban legend', but a good story none the less.
How might the Japanese indicate distress? ;-)
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 11:58:28
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To be fair to the Americans, poor dears, they had to put a big blue rectangle on their own flag so as they wouldn't get confused as to which way up it went. The Union flag is far too complicated for them with all those stripes and triangles an' all. Don't be too hard on them they are simple folk. We should just feel a gentle inward smile like a loving parent would when our children make mistakes. Let them play nicely with their gophers.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/09/05 12:01:07
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:00:29
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Twigman
How would Americans feel if their flag was flown upside down?
Technically speaking, we Americans would interpret that as a distress signal... and come to offer assistance.
In UK, likewise, it could be interpreted as a distress signal - my post offers assistance in educating the ignorant.
However flying the Union Flag upside down can also be interpreted as a deliberate insult to the crown.
If I may refer to the page that you linked to with all the examples of U.K. Citizens displaying the flag upside down the faux pas is known as "lese Majeste" (which means: insulting the Crown), and is theoretically still a crime in the UK and its commonwealth!"
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:01:49
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If I may refer to the page that you linked to with all the examples of U.K. Citizens displaying the flag upside down the faux pas is known as
"lese Majeste" (which means: insulting the Crown), and is theoretically still a crime in the UK and its commonwealth!"
I never said it was a crime in the US...merely disrespectful
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:03:35
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i am British...and really couldn't give a flying gopher.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:06:05
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i am British...and really couldn't give a flying gopher.
You could at least pretend you care just for the fun of it.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:07:01
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If I may refer to the page that you linked to with all the examples of U.K. Citizens displaying the flag upside down the faux pas is known as
"lese Majeste" (which means: insulting the Crown), and is theoretically still a crime in the UK and its commonwealth!"
I never said it was a crime in the US...merely disrespectful
I don't recall ever saying you ever said anything. ;-) I do recall pointing out that you provided a link with several examples of your very own U.K. neighbors having made the mistake. best, mike
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:08:39
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Jonbouy
mgh
i am British...and really couldn't give a flying gopher.
You could at least pretend you care just for the fun of it.
Fly his football club flag upside down and see what happens.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:10:26
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I've scoured the Ashdown Forest regularly and never yet seen a gopher. I've seen plenty of Tiggers and Bears though. And Hefalumps... don't forget the hefalumps.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:10:57
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you provided a link with several examples of your very own U.K. neighbors having made the mistake.
I'm not disputing that....there are plenty of ignorant people here too......but I feel Hollywood should realise their mistakes and not be so lax about which way the flag is flown.....Imagine the uproar if a movie went on general release with the Stars and Stripes flown upside down.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:11:59
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Jonbouy
mgh
i am British...and really couldn't give a flying gopher.
You could at least pretend you care just for the fun of it.
Fly his football club flag upside down and see what happens.
I couldn't get it upside down. 
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:12:58
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:14:47
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mike_mccue
you provided a link with several examples of your very own U.K. neighbors having made the mistake.
I'm not disputing that....there are plenty of ignorant people here too......but I feel Hollywood should realise their mistakes and not be so lax about which way the flag is flown.....Imagine the uproar if a movie went on general release with the Stars and Stripes flown upside down.
I have to agree. I did not realize it was upside down in those movies, as I'm sure most Americans didn't either. thank you for pointing it out and I do agree that shouldn't have happened. whoever was in charge of the set for those scenes should have made sure they were correct.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:16:38
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@twigman - Good one about how the Japanese could use their flag as a distress symbol. (I could write something humorous, but now I'm genuinely curious.) @jonbouy - Yes, it is a bitter disappointment to learn that Hollywood has made such an error given their heretofor impeccable record of historical accuracy. Undoubtedly, a Federal Commission shall be convened, in-depth studies commissioned, and billions of dollars spent to ensure this never happens again. To paraphrase, this is the sort of diplomatic error up with which we will not put. (But seriously, this is embarrassing. Probably they handed some guy the flag and said 'Run this up that pole over there.' and never gave it a second thought. Perhaps it would be helpful if future renditions included the words "This side up". )
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:17:38
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mike_mccue
you provided a link with several examples of your very own U.K. neighbors having made the mistake.
I'm not disputing that....there are plenty of ignorant people here too......but I feel Hollywood should realise their mistakes and not be so lax about which way the flag is flown.....Imagine the uproar if a movie went on general release with the Stars and Stripes flown upside down.
It's actually displayed backwards all the time. We've gotten so used to it... very few notice.
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:25:19
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Yes, it is a bitter disappointment to learn that Hollywood has made such an error given their heretofor impeccable record of historical accuracy. 
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:25:42
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Re:Why can't Hollywood fly the Union Flag the correct way up?
2011/09/05 12:27:57
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I think we start a write in campaign about this little bit of what have we here: 
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