Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!)

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Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!)

Dear Anyone. I was writing a piece using 3 instances of virtual Korg M1 and one instance of Edirol Orchestral, and getting Dropout/Sound Engine Stop Central. I'd tweaked my Windows XP SP3 so there wasn't one unnecessary thing running, wasn't on the Internet and Sonar just wasn't playing ball at all. So I checked the CPU usage - 100%. And it wanted more. Flat outta computer with 4 synths going. Now my DAW before this was Quick Score Elite Level 2 by Sionsoft. It's a straight notation package, in fact I was still using it MIDI-Yoked to Sonar X1 because I'm disabled and can't play a keyboard. Mouse and notation, me. Sonar's effects were better than the plugins I had for QSE, that's the only reason I was using it. BUT... I've often had 5 instances of Korg M1, with 3 effects on each PLUS a couple of Edirol Orchestrals going in QSE, PLUS Ozone on the front end, and my processor's only been on half power. No dropouts. No need to use Asio 4 All or anything like that. Everything working like a dream. Yet try to run 3 instances of Korg M1 in Sonar and you seem to need a comp. as powerful as a Meteorological Office to take the strain. QSE is TINY - it's so small you can E-mail it to someone. Yet it can handle all the instances I've said above with aplomb. WHY does Sonar need so darned much processor power to DO anything!?! System Specs - Gigabyte motherboard with dual core 2.8gig processor, 4gig RAM, nearly a terabyte of hard drive spare, M-Audio 2496 soundcard. I'm frankly astounded and baffled by my discovery of just how much a processor/computer hog Sonar seems to be. What DO I need before it can handle what QSE can handle already? No, I don't work for Sionsoft or anything, it's just that's the only other DAW I've got any knowledge of, cos it's the only other one I've ever used. Yours respectfully ulrichburke
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    ulrichburke
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    Re:Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!) 2012/09/22 04:42:20 (permalink)
    This addendum isn't entirely serious - but if anyone knows how to keep the gaps between paragraphs you put in when typing, so it doesn't always end up as a solid block of text here, I'd love to know. I'm not putting in any gaps here because there's no point, let's face it. Ulrichburke (again!)
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    Re:Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!) 2012/09/22 04:44:27 (permalink)
      Ya, what's the deal with the formatting!!!??
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    Re:Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!) 2012/09/22 04:48:26 (permalink)
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    Re:Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!) 2012/09/22 04:54:11 (permalink)
    Respectfully - there's something wrong with your setup if it's consuming that much power.

    I'd start by re-profiling your interface, and you should be aware that Windows XP is no longer actively supported by Cakewalk.


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    Re:Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!) 2012/09/22 06:02:59 (permalink)
    Install and run this.....

    http://www.resplendence.com/latencymon

    This will help you narrow things down a bit.

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    Re:Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!) 2012/09/22 06:09:45 (permalink)
    What audio drivers are you using now in Sonar, and what audio drivers were you using before in the setup of your notation software?

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    Re:Why does Sonar chomp so much PROCESSOR POWER (read on!) 2012/09/22 07:09:43 (permalink)
    I don't know the differences between Quick Score and Sonar, and  you don't say if you're in 32 or 64 bit Windows. But according to the Quick Score site it requires only a few MEGAbytes of RAM, and they don't even mention a CPU recommendation.  I'd say SONAR does not need much horsepower, you just got used to a program so light that it only needed a donkey (which doesn't mean it's not a good program). You can't talk about Quick Score and SONAR on the same day, they are of totally different weight.

    Your system specs are just a bit over the minimum specs for SONAR. With the minimum specs no software can show it's true power. And it's ASIO drivers made for your M-Audio that you should use, not ASIO4ALL. I have a similar machine as you. I use SONAR 8.5 fluently, when I remember to freeze or bounce the heavier softsynths sometimes. Projects of 30-40 tracks, 50/50 MIDI and audio behave OK.

    When you look at signatures here, most folks have i3 CPUs or better. Nobody designs software for
    machines as weak as yours and mine anymore.

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