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Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
When I'm working with a clip, for example in AudioSnap, I work from left to right. So I have the now marker positioned at the start of the clip. If I want to see more of the clip I zoom in. As soon as I do that the now marker is repositioned to the middle of the screen. And as I zoom in, the clip starts disappearing on off the right hand of the screen. I always have to horizontally scroll back, and I may not have made the clip big enough, or maybe made it too big. This causes A LOT of extra mouse clicks and is pretty ineffecient. This behavior is present in all the X1 windows. Is there a way to just have the zoom work and NOT resposition the now marker? Leave the Now marker wherever it is and zoom from whatever that position is? I'm hoping there is a setting I just don't know about.   
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 13:49:34
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Have a look at the TV menu--->Options--->Zoom Options. There are several options that you can change there that should give you the behaviour you want.
Mine are set to zoom to cursor which doesn't reposition the now time, but it may also depend on the method you are using to zoom. I either use a CS or click and drag in the top of the time line. I rarely use the zoom tool or the tack zoom icons at the bottom/sides.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 14:09:51
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Thanks FBB.
I set the zoom to "At Now Marker" but it does the same thing. I'm always reaching for the bottom right zoom commands (I'm a laptop user). As soon as I touch any of those buttons, the now marker moves to the center of the screen.
It is zooming from the now marker, but it respositions the now marker. That is the annoying part.
BTW - I finished mapping my song - 49 time signature changes! Took me hours!
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 14:19:13
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Try click dragging in the top of the time ruler then. If you have "at cursor" set and your cursor is near the front of the clip when you zoom drag it behaves as you want it to. Don't know if that'll help though, sometimes a change in working method is as big a pain as the problem it solves.  Glad you got your mapping finished.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 14:33:10
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I'm not sure where to click drag the time ruler - it seems to make a selection. I'm going to have to read up on this. I've been a trackpad user for years, but am using the mouse now more than ever before. It is so much more efficient, yet there is a lot to learn.
But now that I'm hooked on the mouse, I'm out of USB ports - I only have 3 - 1) iLok, 2) Audio device 3) USB Mouse. I need to plug in a MIDI controller. I wonder if a USB hub will work. Tried one years ago with Sonar and it added strange issues. Can't remember what they were, only that it didn't work.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 14:59:24
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If you hover the cursor over the top half of the time line you'll see it changes to a "down arrow" at that point you can click and drag down to zoom in or up to zoom out.
If you click (as opposed to click & hold) then it will select between markers if there are any present. It's one of those "knacks" a little awkward at first but once you've "got it" quite easy. YMMV of course.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 15:55:05
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If you hover the cursor over the top half of the time line you'll see it changes to a "down arrow" at that point you can click and drag down to zoom in or up to zoom out.
If you click (as opposed to click & hold) then it will select between markers if there are any present. It's one of those "knacks" a little awkward at first but once you've "got it" quite easy. YMMV of course.
I tried this also and it would not work for me. I get a little white arrow that changes into a double arrow when I drag it down but nothing happens. I remember using this method a while back and it worked then but now nothing. I wonder if there is a bug because my fast zoom doesn't work now with the drum map open in the piano roll view. Glad to hear you got that Audio Snap mapped out.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 16:13:44
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Thanks - yeah it was a fricking nightmare for a few days. Once I got the method down I started moving. But with all those different time signatures it was a pain.
I've spent a couple hours on the drums now and I'm only 3 minutes into the song (which is 10 minutes). This song has a full orchestra - plus all the rock band instruments and vocals.
If it wasn't for you guys I'd still be scratching my head on the audio snap.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 16:16:49
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I don't think quick zoom works in any of the other views PRV/staff etc. I don't know whether that's a bug or by design though.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 17:01:19
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This has been an issue I have been involved with before... I have often stated that I don't like the choice of position movement when a zoom is done... They decided it "best" to center the cursor while I believe it should stay where it is and produce the zoom without moving the cursor....
This continues to cause me extra work with almost every zoom... I'm more likely to want the cursor left-justified than centered... <sigh>...
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 17:07:34
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Look into using the fast zoom option with the mouse wheel at the cursor. Takes some getting used to but its sweet! 
post edited by Wave - 2012/05/13 18:38:14
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 18:28:04
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Keni
This has been an issue I have been involved with before... I have often stated that I don't like the choice of position movement when a zoom is done... They decided it "best" to center the cursor while I believe it should stay where it is and produce the zoom without moving the cursor....
This continues to cause me extra work with almost every zoom... I'm more likely to want the cursor left-justified than centered... <sigh>...
Keni
Keni - I'm glad I'm not the only one. I totally agree - I usually have my cursor at the beginning of the clip, so I'm always having to move it back to the left side of the screen after I do the zoom. I've been involved with a big project that's taking me many hours, and I think of these seemingly little things that could save me a lot of time. What can I say - I'm a software developer who designs software to reduce time for my employees. Time is money in my company and every keystroke and mouse click is a cost I have to pay for.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 23:13:41
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I never really thought about it. I always thought, "Well, that's just the way it is." I'll have to check those settings out.
Why not use CTRL+Right Arrow? Or, left arrow to zoom in? Then again, sometimes I can't find the damned pointer. lol!
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/13 23:56:24
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GP - I tried Ctl-Right arrow, and it moved the now marker to the middle of the screen.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 09:57:26
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Keni
This has been an issue I have been involved with before... I have often stated that I don't like the choice of position movement when a zoom is done... They decided it "best" to center the cursor while I believe it should stay where it is and produce the zoom without moving the cursor....
This continues to cause me extra work with almost every zoom... I'm more likely to want the cursor left-justified than centered... <sigh>...
Keni
Keni - I'm glad I'm not the only one. I totally agree - I usually have my cursor at the beginning of the clip, so I'm always having to move it back to the left side of the screen after I do the zoom.
I've been involved with a big project that's taking me many hours, and I think of these seemingly little things that could save me a lot of time. What can I say - I'm a software developer who designs software to reduce time for my employees. Time is money in my company and every keystroke and mouse click is a cost I have to pay for.
Hi guitartrek... Yeah... This was talked about with The Bakers many times over the years but it's never gotten changed of "fixed"... My biggest problems with X1 are the numerous little things that now make me work slower than I did in 8.5.3... When it's something that gets repeated many times in a day, an extra click/mouse-move adds a large amount of redundancy to the work at hand... Have you put in a feature request? I have and I will again... Cakewalk Feature Request Keni
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 10:59:06
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GP - I tried Ctl-Right arrow, and it moved the now marker to the middle of the screen.
It does for me as well.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 11:22:40
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My biggest problems with X1 are the numerous little things that now make me work slower than I did in 8.5.3 The behaviour of the Now Marker has been the same way for at least 4 version to my knowledge. This isn't new or peculiar to X1
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 12:45:56
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My biggest problems with X1 are the numerous little things that now make me work slower than I did in 8.5.3
The behaviour of the Now Marker has been the same way for at least 4 version to my knowledge.
This isn't new or peculiar to X1
You are absolutely correct... This has been an item of discussion dating back to version 1 of Sonar... But I guess enough people don't push for it's adjustment to get it into the priorities.... So If more of us feature request it... (more often ;-))... I think this is a good topic worthy of at least a select button to move now time marker (play cursor) when zooming? Keni
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 14:54:58
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Yes Keni, totally agree with you on that one!
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 20:21:18
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I think you're right Keni - enough people don't push for it. I'll put in a feature request. It's a no brainer really.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 21:15:11
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Thanks Guys... I just posted (another) FR for a solution to this earlier today... Maybe if enuf of us request it closely in time, it will raise it to "immediate future" status? ;-) One can hope, eh? Keni
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/14 23:30:33
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I don't really see the problem here. Yes it centers the view but it doesn't move the Now Time. I would think in most cases that is what would be desired.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 04:00:46
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Not for me.
Because I run 2 monitors, when it's "centred", it means the focus shifts from my left hand screen to the right, which isn't what I want.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 08:14:22
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dke - the problem is that - if you look at my screen shots where I'm starting to work on audio snap beat map, which starts at the beginning of the clip. That means my now marker is at the beginning of the clip on the left side. I want to zoom so I can see the entire clip. As soon as I touch the zoom buttons, the now marker jumps to the middle of the screen and I start expanding the clip - As I expand, the clip starts dissapearing off the right side of the screen. How do I know if I expanded too much or too little? I have to keep horizontally scrolling to see the effects of my zoom.
It may not be a problem for you or others, but it does create about 3 or 4 times the amount of mouse clicks that you need. It's inefficient.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 10:43:39
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I guess adding an "option" to alter the behavior for those that want it would be the best way to go. If SONAR defaulted the to behavior that you guys are suggesting, it would drive me completely crazy. I like it just the way it is. So if there was an option to alter that, we could all be happy.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 11:58:20
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I don't really see the problem here. Yes it centers the view but it doesn't move the Now Time. I would think in most cases that is what would be desired.
That's the problem... While I'm truly glad that it works for you, it forces me to move the screen image every time I zoom as I don't tend to leave my locator at the middle of my chosen area, but at the front of it... Keni
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 12:00:54
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Yes...
I usually believe that there are too many people with varying choices to simply force a method/issue... A selection (or two or three) is always the minimal way to go that's acceptable for me... I wouldn't want anyone who likes the current method to be incomvenienced the way I am as I know first hand how fast it gets "old"!
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 12:25:58
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Though I prefer how it currently works most of the time, sometimes I wish I can hold down shift or ctrl while zooming to "hold" the left edge of the track view.
It would be cool if you can hold the left shift to hold the left edge, or hold the right shift to hold the right edge, while zooming. That would make it very quick and easy to zoom around.
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 13:21:23
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That's an interesting idea... Tho I'd like to think about how it would work along with using the "live" Z key for sooming which is what I use most often...
(Needing to hold both the Z and another key along with the mouse)
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Re:Why does X1 move the Now Marker to the middle of the Sreen every time I Zoom?
2012/05/15 13:24:51
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dke - the problem is that - if you look at my screen shots where I'm starting to work on audio snap beat map, which starts at the beginning of the clip. That means my now marker is at the beginning of the clip on the left side. I want to zoom so I can see the entire clip. As soon as I touch the zoom buttons, the now marker jumps to the middle of the screen and I start expanding the clip - As I expand, the clip starts dissapearing off the right side of the screen. How do I know if I expanded too much or too little? I have to keep horizontally scrolling to see the effects of my zoom.
It may not be a problem for you or others, but it does create about 3 or 4 times the amount of mouse clicks that you need. It's inefficient.
I wouldn't have any objections to an option being available but I think there are alot more annoying things in X1 I'd rather have fixed/changed. As far as your example simply setting the now time to the center of the clip/selection would fix that problem or closer to the area you actually want to work on. Dan
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