Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo?

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2006/03/06 11:50:21 (permalink)

Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo?

Cakewalk is usually pretty smart about demos and showing off their products. But why would they insist that "Flash 6 or higher" be installed for a potential customer to listen to a product, in this case Dimension Pro.

Why not have some mp3 files, or if you need a video just an mpeg.

We don't all have multiple PCs. One for the internet and one for music. I try to keep my computer as clean as possible, and avoid installing crap that is not essential.

Please Cakewalk, put your customers first, not your demo/marketing developers.
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    MIDIMONSTER
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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/06 12:39:44 (permalink)

    René posted this:

    http://www.rgcstuff.com/mockups/RGC_RaptureDemo.mp3

    A very good Rapture Demo.
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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/06 18:15:48 (permalink)
    Hello mewsicknerd,

    Thanks for your comments. Flash is basically an industry standard nowadays, as there're many websites which won't load without it. It was a natural thought to come with using it for the player, as it's way more convenient than downloading an mp3 for most people.

    However, we'll be placing many demos for Rapture in the few months to come, including mp3 demos.
    Rapture has only been shipping for a week, we have loads of stuff to do yet in terms of demos.


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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/06 18:53:17 (permalink)
    Flash comes preinstalled with Microsoft IE anyway (if you're using Windows), so all you'd be doing is upgrading an existing version. Flash 8 offers the best quality video at any given bandwidth, so it makes sense that companies are going to use it. Flash is on something like 99% of computers (and now mobile phones) - you can't argue with that kind of penetration. MPG is a bandwidth pig.

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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/06 19:18:42 (permalink)
    BTW I've mentioned this before about the Cake instrument demos. While I don't mind the Flash player (but would prefer MP3s I could load on my own player), it is really a hassle to have to click each sound example. NI and MOTU have a jukebox feature on their Flash players that allows one click and it plays through the whole set of examples. I would please request that Cakewalk would do the same with the Dim Pro and Rapture players.
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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/10 16:10:27 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: MIDIMONSTER


    René posted this:

    http://www.rgcstuff.com/mockups/RGC_RaptureDemo.mp3

    A very good Rapture Demo.


    Hi Midimonster,
    the link doesn't work for me.
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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/10 16:14:43 (permalink)
    It just worked for me again a couple of times, MSN. Did you try the right-click/Save Target As ... route?
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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/10 16:15:50 (permalink)
    Only an "upgrade"?

    Yeah, internet explorer is on every PC too. But upgrading for the "features" each time merely subjected your PC to worse security and compatability problems.

    I used to ask my parents permission for things and said "Everybody is doing it".
    You know what they said. I don't view the sites (or spend money) that require flash, no loss there, I've got more things I want than money anway

    Your point is pretty valid. But there are plenty of people who try to keep their DAW as clean as possible, I'm just one of them.

    Anyway, it is extremely cool that Rene is putting some mp3's up.
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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/10 19:13:03 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: mewsicknerd

    Only an "upgrade"?

    Yeah, internet explorer is on every PC too. But upgrading for the "features" each time merely subjected your PC to worse security and compatability problems.

    ...

    Your point is pretty valid. But there are plenty of people who try to keep their DAW as clean as possible, I'm just one of them.


    Then if you're this paranoid about using the latest Flash active-X control in IE, maybe you shouldn't be browsing with your DAW. It is unfair and unreasonable to suggest that Cakewalk use technolgies unsuited for Internet realtime multimedia purposes just because you want to keep your DAW clean. Use two computers, a swappable boot drive, or the dual-boot features of Windows as alternates.

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    RE: Why does cake require Flash 6 to demo? 2006/03/10 20:10:24 (permalink)
    subjected your PC to worse security and compatability problems

    Actually - at least as far as the Flash player goes - increased security, and Macradobe makes it a point to ensure newer players are always backwards compatible, unless it interferes with security. Is Flash abused? Yes. Aggrivating? Agreed, at times. But it terms of security, I'd trust it more than Microsoft any day.

    I'm not disagreeing with your clean machine philosophy, just your reasoning against Flash in particular.

    I agree that a player that automatically played the next sample would be far superior.

    -edited fo ingrish
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