Why doesn't Sonar have an iPad or Android app?

Just get a small touchscreen 

I have wondered this often melodicJimmy! Even one that just provided transport controls would be a start. 
 

kitekrazy1

Anderton
Just get a small touchscreen 
 
 
 

That's what an iPad is.  There are 3rd party ones that will control Sonar.  After awhile you'd be surprised that you stop using those apps because the novelty wears off.

 
 
The third party apps like touch daw are flakey at best though (erratic connection on start-up due to rtpmidi etc), so it is not hard to lose interest.  If there was a proprietary android app that worked consistently would be a different story.  I have an app for My X32 digital mixer that works flawlessly and I wouldn't be without it. 
 
And a small touch screen isn't wireless.  Try picking one up and walking into your vocal booth. 

I've experimented with stuff, ever since the beginning...and use to ask the same question.  They're actually more trouble than they're worth...unless you need a remote control to start recording.  And for this they're many apps to achieve this.  And as Anderton says get a small touch screen, which I also have...but again it's more trouble than it's worth.
 
Ben

In some situations I use v-control (free) for visuals and a Studiomix (peavey-yeah, old) for basic transport control.

If I cold afford he paid version I wouldn't need the Studiomix as the paid version has full support...

It works just fine...

For me I also use the presonus 1818 software (my interface) to remotely adjust monitor mixes and such...

I don't often need this, but it can be handy to have. Why should Cakewalk spend time on this when it's already available... I'm told the paid version of v-control allies full access to all Sonar on-screen stuff too...

MelodicJimmy
"just get a small touchscreen"
 
I'm not being a jerk here, honestly.... but, what was the point of that reply?  I don't even understand what you said.  I'm asking why Sonar doesn't have an app to be able to control it remotely and you said, "just get a small touchscreen."  Why'd you say that?  Again, not being confrontational, just .... confused. 
 
Also, no, I don't think the novelty would wear off.  I think my workflow would be a lot quicker with something like that.  Plus, obviously Cubase and Logic feel the same way.....

As does Studio One.
 
You will find a lot here that just say some silly things when then is no other defense for Sonar when someone brings one of its many deficiencies to the fore, just look at some of the half ar$ed (and that's exactly what they are) work arounds for things Sonar lacks that other DAW's have in the 'Tip of the Week' section above.
 
I think a lot of people, including long time users are growing disillusioned with the direction Sonar is taking under the Subscription model, this is evidenced by the growing number of disgruntled posts by those same long time users to recent events and additions (and the way in which they were added) to Sonar, there is disquiet in the camp. People are leaving, contemplating leaving, flirting with other DAW's with the intention of jumping ship in significant numbers, and to be quite honest there are far better alternatives out there, Sonar is aging, has an aging core code base, some may say archaic, a HUGE backlog of bugs, a lot of which are considered as 'serious' of 'major' by a lot of folk, and some of which have been there for a decade plus and there seems no evidence that they will be fixed, yes you can point all you like to the lists of things that have been fixed in the last year, but at least be true to yourself, you know what I am saying, and you know it is true. Ongoing and new issues month after month, and indeed every month Just read these forums (at least the posts and users that are not deleted or banned, there seems to be a lot of that now days as well, and from what I have seen it is not because the truth wasn't being spoken, more so it was and it was a little to uncomfortable to confront.) But hey, we got LANDR, and the new analytic s coming, and we will be getting early releases (talk about much ado about nothing, anyone actually thought the early releases through? what are you actually getting? NOTHING, no different to just releasing a week earlier, so why the big who ha about it, it's nothing) Good to see that finally after all the requests and talk about these 3 major and often requested features they are finall being implemented (yes that was sarcasm)
 
The way I see it is that at this point in time, just going into the 2nd year of the Subscription model, most, or a large majority of people have just renewed, so that's a done deal, no need to pander to them, Cakewalk already have their money, so it's time to do whatever they feel like doing, and then later in the year and as it gets closer to the next anniversary just throw out a few trinkets to the surfs to make them happy, make them think they have gotten something worthwhile, rinse and repeat. Of course this will change as time goes on and individual renewals become more spread out over the year, it will become a less successful tactic, but as it is now, they have you at a disadvantage, they have your money, you basically paid upfront for promises, for what might come, that's one big problem with giving someone your money without actually getting anything in return at that very moment.
 
From what I have seen, I would say Sonar will be dead in 2 years, Gibson will dump it (regardless of how much Henry likes it, I'm sure he likes money, profit far more) maybe someone else will pick it up, maybe not. Seeing how the larger audio community out there either doesn't know what Sonar is, or has nothing good to say about it, just look at how most outsiders in the industry refer to it, or even worse, fail to even acknowledge it's existence, yes you will be able to provide a few hand selected articles to the contrary etc, but in the overwhelming majority everyone knows it's true, just look at the threads on this very forum regarding how Sonar isn't mentioned in such and such, is not regarded as professional, is often left out of the discussion, not used in Pro Studios, didn't have it's own sub forum on GS and on and on it goes. There is no point arguing, it's a fact.
 
But the ship will limp on, and the sheep will follow the bleatings of those in authority ever blindly, oblivious to the fact that there are far better options available.

Keni
In some situations I use v-control (free) for visuals and a Studiomix (peavey-yeah, old) for basic transport control.

If I cold afford he paid version I wouldn't need the Studiomix as the paid version has full support...

It works just fine...
I don't often need this, but it can be handy to have. Why should Cakewalk spend time on this when it's already available... I'm told the paid version of v-control allies full access to all Sonar on-screen stuff too...

 
I tried Vcontrol a while ago Kenni.  Seemed to work OK, but still had its moments. On top of this,  last time I checked they wanted $50 per year subscription for what amounts to control via apple bonjour embedded in an android browser.  Anyone that thinks Sonar's membership plan isn't a bargain should take a peek at that!
 
Operational quirks of Vcontrol aside,  I don't think the fact that a paid option exists is a great justification for not adding a feature to Sonar. I really like fab filter plugins,  but they wouldn't justify the absence of onboard EQ and compression in Sonar. 

Anderton
 
I've used iPad remotes for live sound, which is an insanely wonderful application because you can walk around the room and tweak, so I'm not against remotes at all. It's just that in the studio, I really don't feel the need for anything other than remote transport control, which can be done in several ways. And if I drop the QWERTY keyboard, I'm out only $20 compared to dropping an iPad 

Remote transport control is exactly what we need,  and as mentioned other DAW 's now include an app to do exactly that.  A wireless keyboard is nowhere near as good as it gives no indication of track record or playback location/status if you can't see your PC screen. 
You must find it difficult answering your phone Craig.  Surely you don't take it out and use it.  You might drop it.  

tenfoot
 
The whole point is that they are not more trouble than they are worth when they work properly,  as does the remote for Studio One that John mentioned and the app for my X32.

 
I've used the PreSonus remote with the StudioLive stuff, it works extremely well. But I like their "Wheel of Me" control concept even better, where individuals can control their own monitor mixes. I did have the remote set up for Studio One and it worked fine, but I couldn't really figure out a good use for it.
 

And could we PLEASE have just one discussion without some idiot bangin' on about how the membership model sucks and Sonar is doomed.  Oh wait..... Too late.

 
It's not some idiot, it's the same idiot from Australia who comes in here periodically, using a variety of alts, to dump on SONAR and the forum community.
 

My favorite remote was still the DigiTech GNX4. That had a control surface plug-in for SONAR where you could record-enable new tracks and do all kinds of cool stuff. It was wired, but for a guitar player with both hands occupied, it was great. In a similar vein there's the POK which while not offering visuals, can bind keyboard shortcuts to footswitches. 

BenMMusTech
 
 
Maybe rather than focus on an Ipad app, and lets face it, after having various tablets over the years are really only a fashion item...they're pretty useless...esp if you have a Phablet,  

I suspect you may have fallen victim to the availability heuristic on this one Ben. It's a bit like a guy test driving a Porsche 911 then claiming it wasn't a sports car because he couldn't manage to drive it over 30 miles an hour.
 
Let me give you a real world example of the usefulness of a phablet 'fashion item'. At gigs I run a 24 channel mix through an X32 digital mixer. Inside that mixer are 8 FX slots containing various multi FX, as well as matrix outputs for crossovers and VCA's used to control parallel compression mixes. At sound check I can stand FOH, and using only my fashion accessory phablet and x32mix App (cost$4.99), I have access to everything that used to be contained in two 16 unit SKB racks; crossovers, comps, reverbs, delays - the lot. At the touch of a fully customisable button on any layer of the fully customisable phablet app, I can access 4 band parametric EQ's with RTA's as wallpaper on every channel, all send/ returns - you get the picture. Anyone on stage can have their own customisable in-ear mix, entirely controlled by the same phablet app installed on their own phone. Incidentally, the x32 App for ipad is nowhere near as functional or customisable as the 'phablet' app. It is in fact the bane of the x32 forum.
 
Before and after the show I run Traktor DJ synced to Abelton Live, which in turn controls DMXIS to run the lightshow. On my stylishly sky blue 'fashion accessory phablet' I concurrently run another app called Kontrol (cost $1.99) which allows me to load and trigger sample libraries, songs, warp tempo's, even reset the midi sync between Traktor and Abelton in case of drift due to tempo variation.
 
Dude - if you have fashion accessories that can do all of that you must have some seriously pimped out Nikes!
 
With regard to the sometimes working V-control,  compare the total functionality and $8.00 cost of the above two brilliantly designed apps to the $50 per year subscription app that you are recommending as a viable option as a transport controller Sonar. 
 
I am in no way bagging Sonar here - I love the program. I am just saying that a remote transport app that worked reliably would be great. Cakewalk might even make some dollars out of it on Google Play store. Apple will of course take most of the revenue from the ipad version:)
 
I see your 2 cents and raise you 2
 
  

MelodicJimmy
And, honestly, it seems like it'd be a pretty easy thing to do, no?

No. It is not "pretty easy thing". At least not for me. If that is pretty easy for you, please make it and share with the community...
 

tenfoot
The third party apps like touch daw are flakey at best though (erratic connection on start-up due to rtpmidi etc)

Problems with rtpmidi are coming from local network infrastructure. If your Sonar computer is unstable with rtpmidi, it can be unstable with any other network based programs. X32 is specially tuned by design to be a network server.
 
For those who need remote transport control for Sonar, the following is in development:
 

 
It supposed to work in any web browser.
 
How many "users" I except? Less then has written into this thread so far...

azslow3

MelodicJimmy
And, honestly, it seems like it'd be a pretty easy thing to do, no?

No. It is not "pretty easy thing". At least not for me. If that is pretty easy for you, please make it and share with the community...
 

tenfoot
The third party apps like touch daw are flakey at best though (erratic connection on start-up due to rtpmidi etc)

Problems with rtpmidi are coming from local network infrastructure. If your Sonar computer is unstable with rtpmidi, it can be unstable with any other network based programs. X32 is specially tuned by design to be a network server.
 
For those who need remote transport control for Sonar, the following is in development:
 
 
It supposed to work in any web browser.
 
How many "users" I except? Less then has written into this thread so far...

I have a dedicated wireless router in the back of my rack,  not online with nothing connected to it but the X32 and my laptop Az. I am not sure how much simpler my infrastructure can get.  If rtpmidi see's and connects to a device it is fine, and 7 out of 10 times it will. It's the other 3 times that rendered it unsuitable for me. 
 
The app looks great!  Any chance of loop and next/previous marker buttons? If it easy to connect and stable you might be surprised at how many users you get Azslow.  Having used AZ control I have no doubt it will be excellent. 

tenfootI tried Vcontrol a while ago Kenni.  Seemed to work OK, but still had its moments. On top of this,  last time I checked they wanted $50 per year subscription for what amounts to control via apple bonjour embedded in an android browser.  Anyone that thinks Sonar's membership plan isn't a bargain should take a peek at that!
 

On top of which they now use ilok and Sonar isn't in the list of supported DAWs.

I have the original version of V-Control and I've recommended it before now. I won't be "upgrading" (in reality downgrading in all sorts of ways) and I won't be recommending it any more.

V-Control 2 lists Logic as a supported DAW. Good luck to them, but I can't see why anyone running Logic would subscribe to V-Control when Apple's Logic Remote is pretty much flawless. And free.