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2017/03/12 03:04:43 (permalink)

Why is my Pan automation not working?

I have a mono track, and wrote some panning automation. The envelope shows in the track, but there is no panning to be had. Sonar Platinum, latest version.

Any suggestions?
 
UPDATE: The problem was that the session was in Envelope Offset mode (Mix Module).
post edited by lahatte - 2017/03/16 05:09:56
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/12 08:25:57 (permalink)
 I did a quick check & it ONLY worked on the "Track's" Pan automation not in the "Clip's" Pan automation, since the track's "Interleave = Mono" , BUT I double checked & saw that the "Clip's" Pan automation worked as long as the track's "Interleave = Stereo"  
 
post edited by Half-a-Brain - 2017/03/12 08:52:19
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/12 10:56:18 (permalink)
Working fine for me here:

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/12 11:51:17 (permalink)
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/12 12:53:19 (permalink)
Is the automation not doing anything (i.e. the pan slider is not moving), or do you not hear the effect of the panning?


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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/12 14:44:48 (permalink)
EDITED: never mind
post edited by chuckebaby - 2017/03/14 11:27:52

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/13 02:50:43 (permalink)
Also make sure the track is outputting to a stereo bus.
 
 
 
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/13 14:56:30 (permalink)
You probably checked this. Just in case, I have to ask. Did you maybe disengage the the automation read button on your track? Is the pan pot moving with the automation?

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/13 23:51:57 (permalink)
Hi. Thanks for the responses.
 
The automation read is enabled. No movement of the pan knob in Sonar. To get this automation ribbon I just clicked the 'W'rite automation button and started playback, then moved the pan knob via the mouse. Automation ribbon created. But no automation happening.
 
I couldn't find anything on changing the interleave setting. Where is that?
 
Thanks.
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 00:50:33 (permalink)
clay said -->  I couldn't find anything on changing the interleave setting. Where is that?
 
the easiest way for me is in the console view, as long as the strip is NOT a  'narrow strip' --  it's the button right above the [M] or  'mute'  button {or the same when I click the "I" shortcut key to open the 'Inspector' and then I highlight the "Track" view tab}
 
  if it's set to 'Mono' (the track itself, not the clip in it) will show only one circle with an arrowhead under it, and if in 'Stereo' it shows 2 squished circles (like a weird sideways eight) with an arrowhead under it, OR when I pause the cursor over any button is how I find out what things are (unless I finally got 'em stuck in my brain lol)  i.e. that's how I got the titles  "Interleave = Mono" &  "Interleave = Stereo"   just cause I still have the "Show Tooltips" checked in the  'Edit > Preferences > Customization > Display'
 
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 01:07:16 (permalink)
EDITED : never mind
post edited by chuckebaby - 2017/03/14 11:27:33

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 02:00:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby chuckebaby 2017/03/14 11:16:46
Thx Chuck for letting him see with the pic, (since I don't know how to, or have posted enough to do that yet) so he could see what took me 53 mins to try & explain  
 
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 02:14:38 (permalink)
The interleave icon could change depending on the theme but the position of the button will be the same regardless of the theme.
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 02:21:50 (permalink)
Interleave is the classic issue.

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 02:59:21 (permalink)
Thanks. I do have the narrow console strips, so I couldn't see that. I haven't worked much with audio, mostly MIDI.
 
Still, the interleave was set to stereo. This is what I have in the track lanes. See attachment... DAMMIT! How do I attach an image on my computer??
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 10:08:10 (permalink)
Upload it to a site such as imgur, get the relevant link code and paste it into the Insert / edit Image box

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 11:18:43 (permalink)
Edited: Not easy trying to help someone when they don't answer your questions. I understand its not always possible to answer every post. but I asked you the same question 2 times. Kind of feel like im wasting my time here.
 
 
post edited by chuckebaby - 2017/03/14 12:46:53

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/14 14:38:14 (permalink)
This has nothing to do with the interleave setting, which would not affect whether or not the envelope was being applied. If the pan slider isn't moving, then the pan envelope isn't being applied.
 
This may sound like a dumb question, but are you sure the envelope is actually assigned to the pan function?
 
Another question we've neglected to ask: is the pan envelope on a MIDI track or an audio track? It's possible, for example, to direct an automation envelope to the synthesizer's pan control rather than SONAR's pan control.


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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/15 02:04:54 (permalink)
Hi. This image is the track, with the pan envelope... No pan happening

 
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/15 02:38:08 (permalink)
hey, at least you figured out what Bristol_Jonesey's advice means & how to put a pic out there, lol 
I'll get it later (hopefully)
 
and by looking at your track 38, I see the output is 'Guitar'  so is that buss or aux track or whatever it's going to >  "Interleave = Stereo" ?
 
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/16 00:26:59 (permalink)
Based on the image it looks like you're in Offset mode: the + signs next to the Volume and Pan widgets. 
 
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/16 00:38:24 (permalink)
Yes I am with half-a-brain, check the Guitar buss.

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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/16 05:08:38 (permalink)
Hi. It looks like Offset mode was it. Thanks!
 
 
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Re: Why is my Pan automation not working? 2017/03/17 04:14:32 (permalink)
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Hi. It looks like Offset mode was it. Thanks!
 



Cool!  Glad that resolved it.    Like they say, sometimes a picture is worth a thousand words.  

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