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2016/04/23 16:01:39 (permalink)

Why so many celebrity deaths?

I don't think there's anything strange about it at all really - from the 1950's onward the number of celebs has been increasing in number. Before then it was mainly Hollywood movie stars and a handful of really famous musical artists. Post 1950's you had the explosion of TV and pop music. During the 60's and 70's there were many times more celebs in existence than there was in the 30's and 40's. After a certain age the chance of dying increases dramatically. Put all of these factors together and it was inevitable that after a certain point the number of celebrity deaths would increase dramatically too. Add to that the proliferation of social media and online news and we are making considerably more fuss about famous deaths, which adds to the perception that there are more of them.

I remember the pre-social media days when you would have those newspaper articles around New Year which paid tribute to all the celebs who had died that year. I would read through those thinking "Oh HE died? SHE died? I had no idea!" Not much chance of that now since every celeb death is hammered down our throats online.

Anyway that's my $0.02. I hear a lot of people talking as if there's some kind of mystical force which has it in for celebs of late. It's nothing of the sort.

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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 16:07:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/04/23 17:07:24
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 16:20:57 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SteveStrummerUK 2016/04/23 16:39:32
I think the reason it hits this crowd so hard is because there's a lot of geezers here. The celebs are very close to us in age and their deaths remind us of our mortality. If a guy like Prince dies you have to wonder what your chances are, given that most of us don't live as clean as he did. 
 
Nobody is immortal, and nobody knows when the bell will ring announcing the end of game.

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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 16:24:21 (permalink)
My theory...
 
Abe Vigoda was holding back the apocolypse.
 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 16:30:27 (permalink)
We're getting older, that's all. More funerals than marriages, it's the way of things.

 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 16:50:59 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby SF_Green 2016/04/24 05:58:16
I still have more posts than songs.
 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 16:58:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tlw 2016/04/23 18:58:58
The real answer of course is...
 
Boomers. Largest demographic in North America. They are old now and dying of... well... being old.
 
Just like there was a slew of them in the sixties and seventies because they were still in that "young and stupid" period where you are more likely to die of misadventure.
 
So the ones who made it to their early to mid-thirties without kicking it are kicking it now.
 
In another decade or so the rash of old punkers, new wavers and 80's pop stars will begin.
 
After that the grungers.
 
And so on...
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 17:02:09 (permalink)
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The real answer of course is...
 
Boomers. Largest demographic in North America. They are old now and dying of... well... being old.
 
Just like there was a slew of them in the sixties and seventies because they were still in that "young and stupid" period where you are more likely to die of misadventure.
 
So the ones who made it to their early to mid-thirties without kicking it are kicking it now.
 
In another decade or so the rash of old punkers, new wavers and 80's pop stars will begin.
 
After that the grungers.
 
And so on...


Will I still be able to post and nag my collaborators though? That's my concern.
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 17:15:33 (permalink)
Don't worry Baps.
 
I'll spoof your account and zombify the frack out of ya iffen' that's yer wishes.
 
I'm sure the real deal will be haunting these halls for a long time to come though.
 
Perhaps longer than me. lol
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 17:23:01 (permalink)
Did a celeb die?

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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 18:24:19 (permalink)
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I think the reason it hits this crowd so hard is because there's a lot of geezers here. The celebs are very close to us in age and their deaths remind us of our mortality. If a guy like Prince dies you have to wonder what your chances are, given that most of us don't live as clean as he did. 
 
Nobody is immortal, and nobody knows when the bell will ring announcing the end of game.


Prince? Clean living? From all accounts he was steeped to the gills on painkillers!

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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 18:48:49 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2016/04/23 21:24:45
"Why so many celebrity deaths?"
 
a) Because they're no longer alive
 
b) Define "celebrity"/everyone's a celebrity etc

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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 21:10:26 (permalink)
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"Why so many celebrity deaths?"
 
a) Because they're no longer alive
 
b) Define "celebrity"/everyone's a celebrity etc




Damn, Strummy beat me to it!
 
A lot of these so-called "celebrity" deaths are of people few remembered until they died.

 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 22:33:41 (permalink)
You're all right, but you forgot to mention the number *3*.
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/23 23:50:45 (permalink)
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You're all right, but you forgot to mention the number *3*.




Didn't know you were a Dale Earnhardt fan!
 


 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/24 00:33:44 (permalink)
I have *I love you* shaved in my back hair.
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/24 01:42:51 (permalink)
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I have *I love you* shaved in my back hair.




Merriam-Websters has a newly added word for that.

 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/24 05:45:22 (permalink)
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eph221
You're all right, but you forgot to mention the number *3*.




Didn't know you were a Dale Earnhardt fan!
 





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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/28 11:14:59 (permalink)
Hi,
 
I have my tears here and there, it's really as if some of these were your best friends ... and then you move on. A little piece of them is always with me anyway, or you would not remember them, see? Thus, I tend to raise the imaginary wine glass (with water) and toast ... love you my friend, and thanks ... and then go back to my own heaven and hell.
 
The rest is just sentimental bruhaha ... that does not help my creativity a single iota ... I can write about it all day, but there is better material out there when you are free of it!
 
Do I miss this or that person and musician? Heck yeah ... but in many ways, they had their chance and they stood up, and maybe it is my turn or yours ... to do so, and that is their message. 
 
Does it mean I do not miss a Richard Wright, or Lothar Meid, or this person or that person? NO. It means that they left a golden moment in my soul that inspires me endlessly ... and no words will ever replace those golden moments ... sorry Judy G.

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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/28 11:38:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/04/28 22:20:42


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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/28 21:42:36 (permalink)
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Hi,
 
I have my tears here and there, it's really as if some of these were your best friends ... and then you move on. A little piece of them is always with me anyway, or you would not remember them, see? Thus, I tend to raise the imaginary wine glass (with water) and toast ... love you my friend, and thanks ... and then go back to my own heaven and hell.
 
The rest is just sentimental bruhaha ... that does not help my creativity a single iota ... I can write about it all day, but there is better material out there when you are free of it!
 
Do I miss this or that person and musician? Heck yeah ... but in many ways, they had their chance and they stood up, and maybe it is my turn or yours ... to do so, and that is their message. 
 
Does it mean I do not miss a Richard Wright, or Lothar Meid, or this person or that person? NO. It means that they left a golden moment in my soul that inspires me endlessly ... and no words will ever replace those golden moments ... sorry Judy G.


I think we had so many great *golden moments* growing up (as a gen x'r) that it seems like we're suddenly losing too many folks, but like the man said in another post, the entire baby boom generation is gigantic, it's just the combination of media awareness (the information age) and the sheer numbers of *golden moments* we had.  Our parents generation had alot of celebrities as well, but no where near the number we have.  We've have had an assembly line of 15 minute fame-celebrities for quite awhile.  Fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy night!
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/28 22:04:26 (permalink)
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/28 22:13:34 (permalink)
(Um, what or who was Dexter?)

 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/29 00:30:39 (permalink)
As of a couple of minutes ago the number of deaths worldwide has been over 19.5 million people. None has been someone directly known by me, a few have been known to my few friends. So almost every death that I have become aware of was some sort of celebrity. Survival decreases with increasing age past a certain point, so if you are at least forty years old now you will have had a meaningful experience of many celebrities who are now in their sixties and older. If you hear about their death, it will have more impact on your consciousness of death than if you hear of a stranger's death. So the premise is an illusion created by your life experience. We all die at an inexorable rate, you just do not register that fact for all of us.  
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/29 03:26:10 (permalink)
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As of a couple of minutes ago the number of deaths worldwide has been over 19.5 million people. 



Over what time period?
 
'Cause I know the "real" number is much, much higher...  
 
Hmm... that would be an interesting brain game, guess how many "people" have actually died.  First you'd have to decide when, exactly, we became considered "people" then factor in the much smaller worldwide populations along with the average yearly death rates per some relevant time period...
 
According to my math, as of exactly 12:00 am (GMT) on April 29th, 2016 there have been 19,537,245,869,014 deaths of "people" (including conjoined twins that weren't recognized as such but only as an extra appendage here and there).
 
Go ahead, try and prove me wrong. 

 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/29 07:14:32 (permalink)
I read recently that there are approx. 15-20 'ghosts' for everyone presently alive.

 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/29 07:44:58 (permalink)
There's a season for everything under the sun... a time to be born and a time to die....
 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/29 09:48:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby BobF 2016/04/29 15:45:49


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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/29 10:23:40 (permalink)
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There's a season for everything under the sun... a time to be born and a time to die....
 
Solomon.




But is there a seasoning? 
 
(I'd choose becan of course).

 
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Re: Why so many celebrity deaths? 2016/04/29 14:04:07 (permalink)
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...
I think we had so many great *golden moments* growing up (as a gen x'r) that it seems like we're suddenly losing too many folks, but like the man said in another post, the entire baby boom generation is gigantic, it's just the combination of media awareness (the information age) and the sheer numbers of *golden moments* we had.  Our parents generation had alot of celebrities as well, but no where near the number we have.  We've have had an assembly line of 15 minute fame-celebrities for quite awhile.  
...



I look at it as we went through a very important artistic period in the 60's and 70's, and a lot of it is still alive and being not only remembered but also copied and kept alive ... that is usually the mark of an artistic "scene" that went a long way, and other than electricity that made film possible, and the like, I am not sure there is another major "event" in the 20th century.
 
As for right now, I don't see anything for the 21st century ... other than folks just being afraid to try new things and experiment. I think the technical side of the instrumentation grew up so fast that it prevented the artistic side from developing more for a while ... but it should eventually come ... sooner or later.

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