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Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn

If this were recorded on reel to reel, I would have been covered head to toe in tape when Karyn stepped in and rescued me.  I'm glad she did.

This is Wide Awake and Dreaming, an electro-pop something or other that Karyn very awesomely kept from straying into the bubblegum arena.  Mixed by Karyn, bass by Karyn, Lyrics and Music, Mine.

A HUGE thank you to her (and a giant case of Becan).

Any mix and song crits appreciated.  THANKS!
Julianna

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 19:10:00 (permalink)
    Great JOB! Sounds fantastic on my system! I love your voice Julibee! The whispers at the beginning were distorted and I didn't understand the words but that may be me. Was that Karyn speaking at the end? I liked the balance and contrast of the percussion too! 

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 19:19:24 (permalink)
    The whispers at the start and end are identical....

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 19:21:13 (permalink)
    Shhh!  Don't give away my secrets!!!! 


    I was just going to let our dear Bill flounder around for a minute.... ;)

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 19:30:21 (permalink)
    Now that is what I like!! Dynamics galore!! Wish I could arrange as good as that...wow!!

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 19:58:05 (permalink)
    Hey! Great stuff! Well done! Only listened to it on my Apple earbuds which probably doesn't do the song justice but it sounded like a great mix none the less. Nice song, nice vocals, cool arrangements.


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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 20:09:56 (permalink)
    Dream on, ladies!  Nice job all around.  

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 20:10:40 (permalink)
    A nice change compared to the country music I listen to a lot lately. Well done.

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 20:34:06 (permalink)
    WOW!  That's the ticket! 

    Incredibly haunting vocal, really nice arrangement, well put together.

    Nothing more to add, I'd rather go enjoy it some more.

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 20:54:02 (permalink)
    Nicely done Jules and Karyn. Effects are great. My only crit is I find the vox and drums slight prevalent with respect to the the music. I would try to bring the synths a bit more forward and have them compliment the vocal texture. Otherwise a great result.

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 21:06:14 (permalink)
    OOh! Thanks, guys!  I wasn't sure how this would go over - In fact, I wasn't even sure Karyn would deign to work on it.... I know that I'm a little out there sometimes.... :)

    Really, really appreciate the ears. 

    JB, I have unused vox tracks that would make a ghoul cry..... ;)

    Ken, yeah, this is just about the opposite of the pop-country I heard all the time growing up.  Call me a rebel. 

    Thank you Foxman. 

    Trimph1, Karyn told me there was still a little room to boost if I wanted.... But I didn't wanna.  Thats some nice vindication, right there.

    Marius!  I'm glad you liked it!  I really am!  Just made my buddy in Sweden listen (at 3am), so I'm all over the Scandianvian internets this evening.  :D

    Thank you, Jan.  Love you, Bill.  ;)
     

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 21:12:12 (permalink)
    Simply Beautiful Jules.

    The song is very pretty too.
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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/22 21:28:09 (permalink)
    It's so good I liked it!

    Vocals, music, and mix sound very good to me. Nothing stands out to my ears that needs to be tweaked.

    Besides all the great production, I liked the song too.

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 05:41:31 (permalink)
    Very pleasant, cool voice and excellent mix.


    Though I do feel the Cowbell was a little subdued.


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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 08:29:47 (permalink)
    I like everything about this save the beatz.  They need to be pushed back to keep in the mood of the tune. (I would also change the sounds of the kick drum, to something more bottom and less top, more ambient)
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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 09:09:21 (permalink)
    An interesting observation James, thanks.

    I was working from a stereo drum track were I basically had the choice of replace everything or go with what I was given. I chose to work with the track.
    The kick has been low end boosted, and I used transient shaper to lengthen the 'ring' a little.  But I deliberately avoided a thundering, sub-shattering thump in favour of something more akin to early '80s synth style.
    The snare sound is deliberately thin and 'metalic' for the same reason.

    With the overall balance I was trying to get a juxtaposition between the washy pads of the backing and the punch of the drum track,  matching the tone of the lyrics. A line between real world and dream world with two distinct styles mixed into the same song.  Whether it worked or not is open to debate, but the "loud" drums were intended to balance against the main vocal, and in that context I don't feel they're over loud.

    I know I broke a few rules in the mix, but that's what rules are for aren't they?

    Thanks for the comments and critique.

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 09:32:03 (permalink)
    GREAT colab!  I love the mix it's so in your face but the space is sooooo huge. I'm really diggin that piano riff. Julianna at times your vocals made me think I was listening to Madonna. EXCELLENT job!

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 11:37:48 (permalink)
    Terrific!  A fine job by both of you.  This made my day.

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 11:58:34 (permalink)
    Karyn


    An interesting observation James, thanks.

    I was working from a stereo drum track were I basically had the choice of replace everything or go with what I was given. I chose to work with the track.
    The kick has been low end boosted, and I used transient shaper to lengthen the 'ring' a little.  But I deliberately avoided a thundering, sub-shattering thump in favour of something more akin to early '80s synth style.
    The snare sound is deliberately thin and 'metalic' for the same reason.

    With the overall balance I was trying to get a juxtaposition between the washy pads of the backing and the punch of the drum track,  matching the tone of the lyrics. A line between real world and dream world with two distinct styles mixed into the same song.  Whether it worked or not is open to debate, but the "loud" drums were intended to balance against the main vocal, and in that context I don't feel they're over loud.

    I know I broke a few rules in the mix, but that's what rules are for aren't they?

    Thanks for the comments and critique.

    Stereo drums... Should I have bounced that as mono?  I didn't think to.  My fault, there... But! I agree with Karyn, and I like the definition she gave them in relation to the song.  And I'm glad she broke a few rules.  Rules give me a headache. :)

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    I suppose there's no getting around a Madonna influence for a girl who grew up in the 80s, Kev... :)

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 12:13:12 (permalink)
    Stereo drums... Should I have bounced that as mono? I didn't think to.
    No no no,  I meant as opposed to having each instrument as a seperate track,  or using the midi file you gave me to completly replace the drum sounds with my own...
     
    The Drum track was fine Jules,  honest.

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 13:00:46 (permalink)
    Oh! That reminds me.... Did you happen to look at that midi file?  I previewed it (just with default windows player) and didn't hear anything.  I just wondered of the data was there at all?  

    I'll come clean and admit that this was a Reason drum track (Redrum)--- which is actually a drum machine--- I don't think bouncing each drum seperately is an option.  But, I freaking love designing drums in that thing....

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 16:50:31 (permalink)
    Well I'm not sure what you didn't like about your original mix, but it is good! But I like Karen's too!!

    Really like the atmosphere you create on this, and love your vocals! Nice job!!
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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 17:03:54 (permalink)
    very nice Julibee and Karyn - good stuff
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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 17:03:55 (permalink)
    "kids these days... with their hula-hoops, and surfboards..."

    this sounds hip & modern to me... but then, how would I know... 
     
    I do know that I like it a lot... I love your cool voice... I really like the lyrics too... I'm not crazy aboyt all the millions of kick-drum hits... but I'm old and stubborn...
    I think this is an excellent production... although I'd like to hear a more defined bass part... but again, what do I know about modern pop... this really is very good... well done ladies...
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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 17:21:02 (permalink)
    Oh, Dave that little comment about my original mix being ok made my day! I'm trying so hard to get better!  I was chatting with my usual producer (who seems to be allergic to making music these days, bummer), and he actually likes my original a little better, for the sole reason that it sounds a little more non-traditionally mixed (well, YEAH, since I'm still pretty clueless)... He did admit that Karyn's isn't exactly predictable, either, though... I sent it to Karyn, wondering what would happen if someone else mixed it... Like... If it could be shinier/brighter/better eq'd (I'm even more clueless in the EQ department).  Karyn claims not to have listened to my first mix.... So, you'll have to confirm that with her, :)

    Thank you, Daryl!

    Hahaha!  Frank!  And here I am thinking its RETRO!!! LOL!  I grew up on ShoeGaze and New Order style dance tracks, which explains the kick drum hits.  Ah... The kids these days... :D. Thanks for listening, my friend!

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 18:29:32 (permalink)
    In the beggining it reminded alot of an "OPUS III - Mindfruit" song. The main vocals were to loud over the music for me, I wanted to hear the music wrapped around the vocals a little more but that may be the cheap little speaker I was listening to...it's the end of the song now and I'm still wide awake and listening...nice job!

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 21:31:56 (permalink)
    This is very nice.  I liked the kick.   My only crit is that I wish the words were a little more distinct, but I'm always that way.  I feel if words are worth writing they are worth hearing and understanding. 

    But I liked this a lot.  Really, very nice.


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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 22:07:33 (permalink)
    This sounds familiar. Did you post a video of this a while back?

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 23:17:19 (permalink)
    Not this one, Scotty... But it's the sort of music I've been making lately.  Maybe it's like how all jazz sounds the same to me?  (totally kidding ;) 

    I'll just let Shawn and Daryl duke it out over how to handle the vox.....  

    But, thanks, to both of you-- I know this isn't what everyone here listens to on a regular basis.  :)

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    Re:Wide Awake And Dreaming - Julibee/Karyn 2012/05/23 23:44:33 (permalink)
    it sounds great in my headphones, great mix, lighting fires in my headphones...

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