Will I still be able to use Sonar Expanded in the next version of Sonar?

Ya know - it's a darn good question.   How does "Expanded" fit into the long term scheme?
What, in fact, does (or will) happen to it?

Cake should actually address this publicly on the forum, I think.

This question answer could change everything (again!).

ProjectM


Or even on the product pages. yup, good question indeed.

Anyone wanna take bets we won't get a good answer?

I posted on here a while ago my hunch.... there won't be an X2, or not for a long time. I think X1 will just continue to be upgraded and added to, some for free, some paid upgrades.

The actual product though will continue as X1. That's what I've deduced from reading between the blurb and it seems to be the way it's going as well. I guess as we get through the next 6 months or so things will become clearer.

After all one of the common requests on here is to break the yearly upgrade cycle. Mind you one of the other biggest requests was to overhaul the UI and look at the appreciation that got.

I expect the moaning that there is no X2 will kick off soon.

I expect the moaning that there is no X2 will kick off soon

bapu


[moaning]
No X2?
[/moaning]

And I just knew bapu would be the first. (or did I?)

I bet it's not a real moan though, that's just to add to his post count though (or is it?)

I asked the Cake folk what product was considered the baseline for updates, X1c or X1e and I received no reply. I am in fact moaning the confusion they have created and waiting to see which fork in the road they follow.

FastBikerBoy


I posted on here a while ago my hunch.... there won't be an X2, or not for a long time. I think X1 will just continue to be upgraded and added to, some for free, some paid upgrades.

The actual product though will continue as X1. That's what I've deduced from reading between the blurb and it seems to be the way it's going as well. I guess as we get through the next 6 months or so things will become clearer.

After all one of the common requests on here is to break the yearly upgrade cycle. Mind you one of the other biggest requests was to overhaul the UI and look at the appreciation that got.

I expect the moaning that there is no X2 will kick off soon.

of course it's all speculation without an official release or post from cake, but this is what I have thought about it as well.  I haven't posted it before because as I said - it's just speculation anyway and a lot of times speculation ends up in arguments between forum members which mean absolutely nothing.
 
but as FBB points out in the end of his post, that will also lead to moaning (and arguing) because of the lack of X2 release - if it's not one speculation argument, it's another! 

but as FBB points out in the end of his post, that will also lead to moaning (and arguing) because of the lack of X2 release - if it's not one speculation argument, it's another!

LOL so true Beags :)

SteveStrummerUK

backwoods


I think Expanded is X2. 

I think you've hit the nail on the head there.
 
 

Well technically it's double but expanded is a description of X2 I suppose...

But then some people (who bought Expanded) will end up paying more than anyone else who didn't buy Expanded

 
Or will they...
 

Having something new before everyone else for a good chunk of time that may help me add to what I am doing and/or have some fun is worth $75.

If I had to buy each version of sonar to get their features plus the new one, I would buy a 4 track-

Expanded to me isn't X2 but another way of getting users to pay for more features before the actual big product version release. Will those features still carry over to X2 or whatever it's named, who knows. Will their be a price break for those who upgraded to Expanded, who knows. But we do know that Cakewalk made Producer into two versions and that Studio users who want some of the obvious features in Expanded will have to first upgrade to Producer. We also do know that there are a lot of users and loyal ones that are very upset and tired of Cakewalk's business and product decisions concerning X1. I think they are doing what they think is best for them but not their customer base. It's obvious that they believe in X1 by giving it a more mature life cycle (which I think is great) but they didn't take much into consideration about how it may effect users if they offered those new features, in a new package and at a new price and leaving out users who are still using Studio. That's why Expanded should have been inclusive and made as an update, leaving out a few of the major features for the Studio users. And as far as the users who upgraded to Producer, well they should only expect new Producer features to be included in that version and not have to pay more for what they've already paid for because Producer suppose to be the best version of Sonar but it is no longer unless you have Expanded. It's really not our fault for not getting those Expanded features out in time for the initial X1 release. So we should not be asked to pay for them. But I am sure they thought of this to make revenue for the period of time that they prolong X1's life cycle. Pay them more to give them more time to work on the new version. So if we do that, will we still be able to use Expanded features in the next version? It just seems like we are all paying a lot more and more nowadays but are getting a lot less and less. Things are really confusing too and not as exciting as Cakewalk may believe or make it out to be. The bulletin that accompanied Summer of SONAR X1 has arrived, http://www.cakewalk.com/P...f-SONAR-X1-has-arrived made things sound exciting with a lot to look forward to but it has not been that way ever since they released Expanded as an upgrade.

I kindly agree to disagree-

Man oh man, it is crazy how much one has to pay to have any kind of decent fully (kind of) functional pro tools.

Cakewalks offers and prices are way better for more-

Lance

Beagle



but as FBB points out in the end of his post, that will also lead to moaning (and arguing) because of the lack of X2 release - if it's not one speculation argument, it's another! 

No it isn't!

bapu


[moaning]
No X2?
[/moaning]

+1!

it's always been something for me to look forward to every year.... but I bought Expanded and think of it as a tiny upgrade... Only time will tell what their' (The Bakers) plans are... If they told us, we'd simply start telling them what's wrong with the idea! ;-)

Maybe the next major  (full point as it's frequently referred to) will be calle:

So-NOW

;-)

Keni