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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/11 19:08:00 (permalink)
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+1 Bitflipper! 

Keybindable markers would go a long way. Especially, if we have them mapped to a control-surface. That would give us a simple locator system. Just posted about this the other day.

In Sonar 8.5 there are 12 marker shortcuts right on the transport. For whatever reason this was removed in X1. Or maybe its just moved. I can't find it anywhere. Post up if you know where it is in X1.
Actually, the markers view works even better than transport. Never considered it till now. Now I can map use a couple of 3rd party scripts and map them to my control surface. 
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/11 19:18:09 (permalink)
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I've gotten lazy and pretty much do all my recording as loop recording these days...screw up a take, no problem...miss the intro, no problem...much of the time I don't even select different sections, I just choose the best take and delete everything else.

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Loop markers are my 'go to' (pun intended) locators.
 
Just hypnotise the guy in the booth with the same section until he gets it right then delete the dross after comping the highlights.
 
X2 has got this covered for sure with alternate 'auto lanes'.  There are precisely no mouse clicks required at all other than the one to get rolling.

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/11 21:13:43 (permalink)
Well if you don't care that there's several people waiting and waiting and waiting to do it right- loop recording is great for the lazy engineer!

But I'd sure like to have an option to be an expert and fast engineer, as well. That's how good recording studios are run by good engineers who save their client's time! 

The Sonar status quo can be worked-around, for sure. I'm just trying to suggest simple ways that Sonar could add quicker functionality in the studio environment for the on-top-of-his-game engineer in a real-world, for pay, recording session. I only earn my living by having a reputation for being excellent at that.

And Bit, much of what you say I agree with. But I still think there's room for improvement- it usually helps me be better and faster when I don't have to workaround more details. Hitting "5" when I want to go to Marker 5 would be just plain faster then scrolling through markers one at a time, I think- etc. When you do these keystrokes a hundred times a day you realize how many hundreds of times a day you'd be helped by better shortcuts! That's all I'm suggesting- less unnecessary work- so a better and faster app which is well-built for studio work can serve me and my clientele better.

It just seems to me that the Sonar upgrades I see are not oriented toward improving doing studio work with clients. And that's what I do, and I want Sonar upgrades to help me do that better.

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 03:32:13 (permalink)
"It just seems to me that the Sonar upgrades I see are not oriented toward improving doing studio work with clients. And that's what I do, and I want Sonar upgrades to help me do that better. "


Right you are Evan...


Sonar is not really designed from the primary metric of a full sail (sic) recording studio, though they try hard to not ignore them...the amount of midi syntax alone should tell that tale...


But remember the way you use it, it is a glorified digital tape machine, you've essentially bought a stretch Humvee to deliver custom sack lunches in...I don't think Sonar has EVER aspired to knock off Semi-"Pro_Tools" as the replacement for adat in the studio...although most of the fan base would suggest otherwise...


It probably does what you want, its just not as convenient as a "drop down menu and click you're done setting up the template"...


I wish you could "pre-label" markers and have them ready to go as you track...just drop them in with a click with a label of your own choosing on the fly...but unfortunately  no one has written a little C+ proggy to do that yet because the demand is so insufficient...


But we can dream...



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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 04:13:37 (permalink)
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Have I missed something or does F5 no longer Go To whatever measure you tell it to? If there's a problematic section that's difficult for the performer, just set the cursor to return to the start point when you hit the space bar. You're always ready that way. Use a lot of markers and bounce back and forth between them. I've got Cntrl B (for Back) bound to Previous Marker and Cntrl N (for Next) bound to Next Marker. Easy navigation - at least for me.

G is the new F5.
Press G (Go to) and punch in the measure you want to go to

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 04:17:28 (permalink)
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I've always gotten around the navigation issue by keeping the Marker View onscreen. Single-click on an entry to jump to that marker. Couldn't be quicker or easier, unless maybe you could assign keyboard shortcuts to each marker (like maybe the numeric keypad).

My biggest gripe is the arbitrary re-assignment of keyboard shortcuts in each new SONAR version. Sure, you can re-bind them but it's a pain. What's the first thing you do when you're organizing a project? Insert markers as it's playing by pressing F11 at critical points. In X2, F11 opens full-screen mode, whatever that means. If I put it back to Insert Marker, I then have to find a suitable replacement for the new function that doesn't conflict with some other existing or changed shortcut. 

I do try to keep it all in perspective, though. We no longer have to wait while the tape rewinds and then scrub to the punch-in point. We no longer have to take copious notes so the session can be set up again the next day. No patch bays to reconfigure, no dials to dial in. No razor-blades. No demagnetizers. Unlimited bounces, pristine signal-to-noise ratios. And the godsend that is Un-Do. All in all, I am very happy with the digital world.

M is the new F11 ( in X1 and X2)
Press M (Marker) to insert a marker as the project plays

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 08:06:16 (permalink)
Hello, 

There are several shortcuts that some others have pointed out that you may have not been aware of that can streamline the live recording process within a song. 

- Use MIDI key bindings. This is an often overlooked powerful feature in SONAR. You have only that many keyboard shortcuts that you can remember. Set up a MIDI shift key and you have the keys from your keyboard controller ready to keybind.

- If you have a control surface you can bind various commands via ACT or even do this with a keyboard via the generic act controller

- Use the classic Set From, Set Thru, go to from, go to thru commands. These can be assigned to keyboard shortcuts (or MIDI keys). This is very handy to set up 2 locate points that you can quickly toggle between. I have use those all the while while tracking for the last 15 years!

- Use markers. This is the easiest way to keep track of multiple locate points of interest in a song. Keybind the go to next/prev marker. Keep the markers view open in a tab in the multidock so you can easily get to it at any time. IIRC there is also a markers module on the control bar.

- Use quickgrouping. This is an incredibly powerful feature that can really speed up repetitive operations. Changing volumes, quick muting, soloing, arming, routing, all these operations can often be done with a couple of mouse/kbd gestures with this. X2 has made big improvements to quick grouping.

- Use screensets - this can greatly streamline getting to a screen configuration of interest when you want to quickly switch between a mix configuration to a tracking configuration.

- In X2 use track lanes - the workflow for recording is  greatly improved with these.

There is obviously room for improvement but I think if you spend some time and customize SONAR to your workflow you will find you can fly around in a tracking session. 

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 08:11:24 (permalink)
setting up a none roland / cakewalk keyboard ACT on a keyboard, has been is a nightmare to NOT mess it up for other progs I use... 
e.g. my novation sl mk2.. to use it I have to muck around with the mappings = throws cubase + reason out mapping / usability as a side effect.



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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 08:15:35 (permalink)
not sure why, but ACT just remains a mystery to me.  i tried it about a month ago....so non intuitive compard to Studio One.

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 09:04:00 (permalink)

This adds up to a great big "you guys don't get it":

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Hello, 

There are several shortcuts that some others have pointed out that you may have not been aware of that can streamline the live recording process within a song. 

- Use MIDI key bindings. This is an often overlooked powerful feature in SONAR. You have only that many keyboard shortcuts that you can remember. Set up a MIDI shift key and you have the keys from your keyboard controller ready to keybind.

I'd have to walk over and ask the pianist to move off the bench to do that. That doesn't appeal to me, nor the pianist. That might work ok for a one-person-band operation but it looks a little silly elsewhere.

- If you have a control surface you can bind various commands via ACT or even do this with a keyboard via the generic act controller

- Use the classic Set From, Set Thru, go to from, go to thru commands. These can be assigned to keyboard shortcuts (or MIDI keys). This is very handy to set up 2 locate points that you can quickly toggle between. I have use those all the while while tracking for the last 15 years!

That's what we've all been using for 15 years... and we've been waiting for more functionality... like for example, why can't I "Go to" the end of a clip with a OEM keystroke?

Or perhaps, what's an easy way to one button click and move the "Now" to the end point of a loop?

- Use markers. This is the easiest way to keep track of multiple locate points of interest in a song. Keybind the go to next/prev marker. Keep the markers view open in a tab in the multidock so you can easily get to it at any time. IIRC there is also a markers module on the control bar.

Yes, a great idea, so why did the markers navigation get stolen from the main tool bar? I never had to keep a markers view open in a "multi dock" until "X" x'd the functionality of 8+. Bummer.

- Use quickgrouping. This is an incredibly powerful feature that can really speed up repetitive operations. Changing volumes, quick muting, soloing, arming, routing, all these operations can often be done with a couple of mouse/kbd gestures with this. X2 has made big improvements to quick grouping.

I rarely need to use quick groups, but I do when they save time... but they only save time in very specific circumstances. A bus can handle many of the functions suggested here and works real fast too.

- Use screensets - this can greatly streamline getting to a screen configuration of interest when you want to quickly switch between a mix configuration to a tracking configuration.

Hardly an antidote for bad GUI design... especially considering the circumstance where useful tools were removed from the main GUI just to be hidden elsewhere. There's also the annoying fact that the GUI was designed so that it to no longer fits on most lap top screens.

Every time I am offered "Screen Sets" as an antitdote for those glaring mistakes I feel a sense of frustration with Cakewalk and it's inability to "Blink".

But the real frustration is that opening a window was never any slower than opening a screen set... so the persistent recommendation to do so seems like some one is just trying to spit in the wound left over after the GUI was ruined.


- In X2 use track lanes - the workflow for recording is  greatly improved with these.


Does this mean the decade old "envelope disaster bug" in Layers will never be fixed?


There is obviously room for improvement but I think if you spend some time and customize SONAR to your workflow you will find you can fly around in a tracking session.


Cakewalk's competition is itself... It seems to perennially struggle with an inability to see the difference between a clear and concise work flow and kludgestions such as memorizing custom mapped functions for 88 hot keys on a music keyboard.

Cakewalk had the best DAW going. Then it got a bad face lift and became relegated to just another DAW. Indeed, we now see that professional music industry reviewers urge us to consider spreading budget amongst different DAWS because it has become too unpleasant to dwell on the hope that after 20 years of development SONAR ought to represent clear thinking and straight forward work flow.

Watching how the last two years were spent on the miracle of drag and drop, and just hit "I" to find the easy to find ProFX has made for some gut wrenching tragic comedy.



I'd love to pay for some improvements. When's X3 coming out?



best regards,
mike



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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 09:31:02 (permalink)
Hi Noel- and thanks for being part of the most customer-thoughtful company I've ever done business with in 28 years of running a Studio! I very much appreciate Cakewalk- your customer service ethos is by far the best in the industry. As an owner of Avid Media Composer, the contrast between Cake and Avid's company policies are stunning! It's one of the reasons I stick with Sonar for commercial work, instead of ProTools- even in an industry that tends to be pretty ProTools snobby. 

I certainly already use most of your suggestions, (like one button keybound locate of "Go to Now"- use it a thousand times a day too!) but they don't really DO what I'm asking for, The point is, when you have to push 3 buttons to do what could easily be done with one- A THOUSAND TIMES a day... every day... an Upgrade that addresses it would be a no-brainer business investment. 

We much appreciate the work you guys do, trying to improve Sonar and making it THE superior tool to buy! But let me please just ask for some maybe seemingly small improvements that are oriented toward the commercial recording studio, instead of MOSTLY the midi-and-home-one-man-tweakers. (I'm not denigrating THAT, though!) And thanks for your thoughtful reply! Sonar is still the finest recording tool I've ever had. I appreciate it very much!

So here's my suggestions-


!. Create a "Locate". This would NOT change when your selection changes. And it would not require a "Stop" command in Record, but would immediately return to the Locate. 


2. Create a "Latch" for both "Auto-Play" and "Auto-Record". So when you're tracking, you can just press "Locate" and the machine will automatically "Stop", "Go to Locate", and "Play", dropping into Record at the Record In point (if Record Latch is enabled). 


3. Please develop Vari-Speed! It's ESSENTIAL for recording live instruments! 


4. I'd personally love to have our color choices back. Gray's ugly to me and shades of gray aren't the most clear, contrasting , easy to see GUI from a distance in the Control Room, I think.

Having a Locate and the Latches would make it so much easier to do basic tracking! Imagine every time you want to take something again, just one button!!! A million times in your life. Also, having the Locate separate from the selection would help so many ways... select an area for Recording or Envelope tweaks, etc, and be able to adjust your selection or Record- and instantly Locate (and Auto-Play if ya want) right before what you've done so you can hear it in context. Or say you're slip editing, your "Go to Locate" is not changed every time you change your Selection (which always changes your Now Time). 

Just having Locate (without needing Stop while in Record)- and Auto-Play/Auto-Record would save me HUNDREDS of keystrokes a day. 


Imagine EVERY time there's a mistake, just hitting ONE button and ya get a complete do-over! Over and over! (Especially since I'm usually holding a cello in my left hand, a cello bow in my right, while juggling a glass of wine and the bong! All while my clients watch, sweating on the clock...)

I think these little touches would really improve the ease of recording music in Sonar. Thanks, all of you, for your thoughts!




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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 10:42:08 (permalink)
I'd have to walk over and ask the pianist to move off the bench to do that. That doesn't appeal to me, nor the pianist. That might work ok for a one-person-band operation but it looks a little silly elsewhere.



Hi Mike,


I get your underlying point... but you can use small MIDI controllers for the types of things Noel is talking about.  Eric Persing does this when doing demos for Spectrasonics products (Omnisphere, etc).
I believe Eric uses a Korg NanoKey2 (25 mini keys)...

http://www.korg.com/nanoseries2

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 10:48:35 (permalink)
Hi Jim,

 Thanks for the tip.

 I'm already satisfied with the hundreds of options for custom mapping I have sitting right on my QWERTY keyboard.

 In any event, we need a function to exist before spending much time trying to figure out how to trigger it.


 All the best,
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 13:58:52 (permalink)
Evan, have you considered a programmable keyboard?


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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:06:29 (permalink)
sounds interesting, Bit... would it let me do the series of commands in Sonar that would yield: stop record>locate now time> auto-play> then auto-record with one button? The old analog autolocater way of "one button, one retry" over and over- is something I really miss! Still wouldn't help with Vari-Speed but- would be a step towards studio bliss!

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:13:45 (permalink)
tbh i think there is more power in the setting up of the user environment of sonar than most, even those getting paid to use the program, realise.

a macro keyboard, or gaming controller or keyboard is perfect for sonar..  in my case have a nt52 gaming controller with 52 macro/key assignable keys, scolling wheel, and 4 way pad..so effectively anything that can be a keybind can be strung together in endless macros... even with variable delay between each macro step..so that you can see the macro in action




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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:23:15 (permalink)
I think my issue is more with the V-Studio (control surface).  It allows a button to be programmed as Next Marker but not as Previous Marker and there is nothing like the locate buttons on an MCI transport.

Singers are very sensitive.  Go back a few beats too far and they lose their note or feel.  Get too close to the punch point and they aren't ready.  A button that jumps back to the same point everytime would be good.  When working on a console it is less convenient to mouse click around.

All that said, this is not a huge deal.
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:27:42 (permalink)
I get around just fine with custom key bindings and my setup is fairly straightforward. I use two monitors-one has track view and the other is console view. I can do 90% of my work this way.

Vari-speed is an absolute must! I record a lot of ethnic instruments for clients and myself. Recording bagpipes or bombard is almost impossible without being able to adjust the other tracks to the pitch of the instrument. In the old analog days most tape machines had a tape speed knob. I miss it.

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:39:49 (permalink)
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I get around just fine with custom key bindings and my setup is fairly straightforward. I use two monitors-one has track view and the other is console view. I can do 90% of my work this way.

Vari-speed is an absolute must! I record a lot of ethnic instruments for clients and myself. Recording bagpipes or bombard is almost impossible without being able to adjust the other tracks to the pitch of the instrument. In the old analog days most tape machines had a tape speed knob. I miss it.

You do understand this would impact the track's tempo and pitch, not just the pitch, correct?
 
You'd have to re-record everything if you needed to re-pitch one instrument.
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:40:52 (permalink)
https://www.youtube.com/w...RD71S2AaQ&feature=plcp


I made a little test with my toolbar. it seems to be possible to do jumps to wanted markers...:-)
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:52:53 (permalink)
dear Beatzmidiot- no, not at all- it wouldn't damage the previously created tracks. Try Vari-Speed in Reaper if you don't remember it from the old analog days. Now in a project with un-frozen MIDI tracks, that may be different/more difficult, depending on how well they could implement Vari-Speed in Sonar. I bet they could even implement it without tempo change in the new world order, but- hey- easy for me to say!

But Vari-Speed just raises or lowers the playback speed/pitch of everything while you track a new instrument. Then you can turn it off and everything should be the same as it was. 


And panup- sure... it's easy to jump sequentially from one marker to another- one by one- forward or backward... But that's not like having a marker available at one button by it's number, instantly. 

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 14:58:55 (permalink)
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...Vari-speed...

You do understand this would impact the track's tempo and pitch, not just the pitch, correct?
 
You'd have to re-record everything if you needed to re-pitch one instrument.


LOL.

I'll guessing your *clients*, the ones who never "comment about the colors on my DAW" just ignore stuff like that because they've figured out they have a lot more important things to worry about when your you are working the magic.


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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 15:06:59 (permalink)
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dear Beatzmidiot- no, not at all- it wouldn't damage the previously created tracks. Try Vari-Speed in Reaper if you don't remember it from the old analog days. Now in a project with un-frozen MIDI tracks, that may be different/more difficult, depending on how well they could implement Vari-Speed in Sonar. I bet they could even implement it without tempo change in the new world order, but- hey- easy for me to say!

But Vari-Speed just raises or lowers the playback speed/pitch of everything while you track a new instrument. Then you can turn it off and everything should be the same as it was. 


And panup- sure... it's easy to jump sequentially from one marker to another- one by one- forward or backward... But that's not like having a marker available at one button by it's number, instantly. 

Evansmalley,
 
1) If you record everything to 1 tape and slow it down/speed it up to change pitch all tracks on that tape will be affected according to the speed change ratio.
 
2) If you record to one tape at a certain speed and in time to another tape, then slow one down/speed it up to change the pitch to match, the two performances will no longer match up. 
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 15:25:18 (permalink)
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Evansmalley,
 
1) If you record everything to 1 tape and slow it down/speed it up to change pitch all tracks on that tape will be affected according to the speed change ratio.
 
2) If you record to one tape at a certain speed and in time to another tape, then slow one down/speed it up to change the pitch to match, the two performances will no longer match up. 
If you slow the tape down, play or sing along at the lower pitch, and then return to the normal tape speed everything works just fine. People have used this technique to record "fast" guitar solos or to aid the vocalists "range" for decades.

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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 15:27:06 (permalink)
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 15:28:04 (permalink)
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BEATZM1D10T


 

Evansmalley,
 
1) If you record everything to 1 tape and slow it down/speed it up to change pitch all tracks on that tape will be affected according to the speed change ratio.
 
2) If you record to one tape at a certain speed and in time to another tape, then slow one down/speed it up to change the pitch to match, the two performances will no longer match up. 
If you slow the tape down, play or sing along at the lower pitch, and then return to the normal tape speed everything works just fine. People have used this technique to record "fast" guitar solos or to aid the vocalists "range" for decades.


Correct. Recording to a previously tracked performance is one thing. It's entirely different to fixing it post.
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 15:30:27 (permalink)
> And panup- sure... it's easy to jump sequentially from one marker to another- one by one- forward or backward... But that's not like having a marker available at one button by it's number, instantly.

In my demo video I made direct jumps to markers. Not forward-backward... It's possible by sending SONAR suitable keystrokes. Direct keybindings would of course be better.
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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 15:43:03 (permalink)
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southpaw3473


I get around just fine with custom key bindings and my setup is fairly straightforward. I use two monitors-one has track view and the other is console view. I can do 90% of my work this way.

Vari-speed is an absolute must! I record a lot of ethnic instruments for clients and myself. Recording bagpipes or bombard is almost impossible without being able to adjust the other tracks to the pitch of the instrument. In the old analog days most tape machines had a tape speed knob. I miss it.

You do understand this would impact the track's tempo and pitch, not just the pitch, correct?
 
You'd have to re-record everything if you needed to re-pitch one instrument.

Of course the tempo changes but we're not talking about using vari-speed to transpose.  For instance, I have been recording bagpipes for decades.  Most chanters are pitched sharp of Bb, the key they are supposed to be in. 
Lay down backing tracks in the correct pitch, make the whole mix slightly sharp using vari-speed (which really just changes the sample rate incrementally), track the pipes and then return to the proper speed.  Did this a million times with tape and even with a digital stand-alone (old Yamaha AE 2816). Works like a charm! It would be a very helpful feature!



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Re:Will Sonar Upgrades ever have things useful for a paying studio? 2012/09/12 16:35:00 (permalink)
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I think my issue is more with the V-Studio (control surface).  It allows a button to be programmed as Next Marker but not as Previous Marker and there is nothing like the locate buttons on an MCI transport.

Singers are very sensitive.  Go back a few beats too far and they lose their note or feel.  Get too close to the punch point and they aren't ready.  A button that jumps back to the same point everytime would be good.  When working on a console it is less convenient to mouse click around.

All that said, this is not a huge deal.


I always use "On Stop, Rewind to Now Marker" when I record vocals. (..or record anything for that matter) :)

Just hit stop and play to listen to the recording
Or hit stop, undo and record to undo the take and start a new recording from the exact same spot as last time
post edited by Loptec - 2012/09/12 16:47:02

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